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Dalton1
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 Posted - 26 Jan 2008 : 02:35:07
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Kons;
I know you did it for good. I've followed your writing here long enough to know you mean well in these postings of pics.
The blog is just for archiving pics...and i am looking for more pics to put in there.
Well, i already get my pic.beautiful fula lady...whether you delete yours or not. I could have done the same to my favorite pic among the many that Bev had here on the pisaca album.....(Jokes!!)
what would you name your hamlet......sareh-Kondorong......you know the chinsang-yero, sareh-yero are many......if any puts a pic here, i will load it on....
Dalton
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Jan 2008 : 12:58:34
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Jamwali
It should be enough to name your source underneath the picture. This woman looks Tukocleur Fula. The exchanges between Dalton and Kons show the rich language of Pulaar filled with affection and metaphors. With a deep mutual respect between the different cultures which make up Gambia.
Kons introduces Dalton as a brave Fula because the Fula’s were known as brave warriors who brought Islam into west Africa conquering many nations. They also defeated the Europeans on many occasions putting up resistance. The accolade given by Kons can only be matched by Dalton offering to choose for Kons a Fula wife. As a thank you for this gesture Kons he will give Dalton fermented soar milk with sugar.
Kons feels empathy for Dalton situation because he is far from his Fula homelands and being an immigrant isn't easy. The metaphor which Kons uses to describe the distance between them is stars in the sky which they both share at different times.
To describe how far away Dalton is from Gambia, and a fable of a horse and a donkey to describe how being a Immigrant isn't easy. The witty relationships amongst the Fula’s filled with a sense of humour and the joking relationship amongst the different groups in the region promotes peace amongst the people.
Pulaar is one of the oldest languages in the world it is written amongst the Egyptian hieroglyphic. Pulaar has its own written alphabet. As mentioned before that Fula's are one of the lost tribes of Israel who are traditionally to be found from Somalia in the horn of Africa cutting right across 17 countries to North Nigerian. I found it funny one day to be teaching a Somali Youth named Mbidi, the same name as a town I had visited years ago in Fouta Toro. He said to me people often ask him where did he get that name from and I told him about Mbidi Fouta Toro,
Yes the Juballo are great swimmers fishermen and very spiritual people. Baba Maal comes from the line of Griots he has done a lot as the Ambassador of Yela and Fula culture. This has been a refreshing and educative thread Guys.
Jarama
Peace Sister Omega
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Jan 2008 : 13:24:40
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Isnt this stereotyping a tribe? When I have ascribed characteristics to a particular tribe in the past I have been accused of tribalism and stereotyping.
Also I dont understand the difference between my pictures and Santanfaras. His is ok sister, but mine isnt?  
At least mine pictures didnt have any sexist comments attached to them!  |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Jan 2008 : 13:30:52
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Sister Omega,
Jamtaan. No Galleh waandi? You have indeed been to FUUTA Toro. One of my ancestors came from there, am dying to go back there re-discover some of the lost relatives. Fula, Fulbe or watever you want to call them have been around many many centuries ago.
I will tell you of a emotional encounter i once had in Brussels. I was a participant in an international conference. The confenrence had partcipants from some parts of Africa. On one of our tea breaks, i met two gentlemen chatting, it was the first day everyone is trying to make friends. I knew they were not speaking French or English but an African language. When i went closer i realized that they were speaking Pularr. I greeted them in pularr and they responded not before exchanging qwik glances. One was from Senegal, the other was from Mali. As that was not already merry, we were joined by a Sudanese, that was the mother of all surprises. He too was Fula. I usually heard from one of my uncles that Fulas were as far away as Sudan, at the time i was young and kind of skpetical about his story.
The Fula dialect he was speaking was Fulfulde. He could converse fluently with the Malian from Massina, but with me and the Senegalese he understands our Fuutankoore well but we miss out on some of his Fulfulde. Whatever the discovering was just too emotional. |
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Dalton1
3485 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jan 2008 : 14:23:15
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Omega,
Thanks for a nice touch on the Fulbe history, really touching.
This one you can do better than Gambian politics, deny it or not.
I am still milking my cows.
I am yet to be convinced that you or Kondorong are not of the Fulbe....the kind of pularr that Kondorong sparked is not the primary school pularr.
Madi, ours too hailed from Futa-toro, through Kiang-Jali and then to Foni. It was this interesting story I heard, funny about our grandparents that first settled in Foni, may be courage will drive me to share it here one day......Fulani with a type.
Indeed, sometimes, this bantaba can be a home away from home for may people.....i cannot wait for another visit soon....
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jan 2008 : 20:47:19
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What's up Bev aren't you aware that different Ethnic Groups have their own culture and history. Well for me, being a mother of newly extended family 9 children , and amongst them 6 are Fulas and three have siblings who are. Then I think it's important for me to pay interest in part of my family's culture which I am married into. Don’t you think?
Regarding your photos what’s the deal? If you have covered yourself as you say getting permission from your students and friends. Then why did you take them down? After all aren't you just innocently sharing your holiday pics with the rest of us? 
Talking about making mountains out of mohills! British Political correctness doesn’t enter the equation here Bev. We are talking about an ancient African culture which is has a rich heritage and is one of many of diverse ethnic groups, which go to make up the cultural diversity of the rich geographical tapestry of Africa.
Madiba thanks for sharing your experiences with us in Brussels. I can imagine how emotional the gathering which you attended was, amongst different African brothers who were all Fula’s from different parts of the Continent validating what you had been told earlier by your father. This example highlights to me how accurate oral history is. Madiba I learnt recently that when you go Futa they may give you a wife to make sure that you never lose contact with your ancestral village again what say you? More importantly what will your wife if you have one?
Dalton I agree with you this is a good topic. It’s also refreshing as they say variety is the spice of life.
Peace
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 26 Jan 2008 : 21:26:44
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Originally posted by kondorong
May be i should indicated my source for the picture. Its not mine. I just chanced on it on the internet. I should be honest enough to name my source which i will do soon or remove the picture. I believe in intellectual property.
Sorry my mistake.
The picture is from Acccess Gambia website at http://www.accessgambia.com/ and the credit should be givin to them. Its my opinion that one could make a link to a picture from another site to show it but the picture should remain in the original location as a respect to intellectual property. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Jan 2008 : 23:27:32
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Of course I know about diversity. It seems Africans can comment on it and Westerners cant! When I tried I was told Gambia is one Nation and tribes have no part in that! Clearly tribes and cultural differences are important in Africa.
Sister the reason I took my pictures off was because of YOUR complaints! YOU accused me of having no intergrity as a teacher, or do you forget?
I am growing tired of all this.  |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 27 Jan 2008 : 03:14:04
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Sister
You always amaze me. You are full of wonders. I did not know you know so much Fulani. How could you have translated all what we said and still cliam to be from diaspora. Its impossible. "Slowly slowly catch monkey" as they say in Sierraleone |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 27 Jan 2008 : 03:15:58
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Originally posted by Dalton1
Omega,
Thanks for a nice touch on the Fulbe history, really touching.
This one you can do better than Gambian politics, deny it or not.
I am still milking my cows.
I am yet to be convinced that you or Kondorong are not of the Fulbe....the kind of pularr that Kondorong sparked is not the primary school pularr.
Madi, ours too hailed from Futa-toro, through Kiang-Jali and then to Foni. It was this interesting story I heard, funny about our grandparents that first settled in Foni, may be courage will drive me to share it here one day......Fulani with a type.
Indeed, sometimes, this bantaba can be a home away from home for may people.....i cannot wait for another visit soon....
Dalton
dalton
I am not fulani. I just happen to have a fulani wife and married into and lived among the Fulani. Herded cows with them and attended wrestling matches.
But like they say in africa, when a child washes his hands, he can eat with kings. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2008 : 03:39:15
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Just like you Kons I'm married to a Fula.
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2008 : 08:19:50
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Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jan 2008 : 08:23:48
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Sister is the greatest mistery on bantaba. I agree intot with you on this one |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Feb 2008 : 12:29:32
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| IF YOU THINK THE ISREALITE OR THE ARABS WOULD HAVE YOU, WHY DON'T YOU GO BACK TO THEM. YOU FULAS DONT EVEN KNOW YOUR HISTORY. YOU ARE DECENDANTS OF SLAVES - FROM ARAB MOORES AND THEIR AFRICAN SLAVES. DURING THE REIGN OF DJIGAN JOOF [THE FIRST KING OF TUKAR 47OBC] - WHO WAS A SEREER, YOU WERE THE SERVANTS OF THE SEREERS. AS NORMADS, THE SEREER NOBILITY OF TUKAR [THE STATE WE NOW CALL FUTA TORO] ALLOW YOU TO STAY IN THE LAND PROVIDED YOU LOOK AFTER THEIR FARMS AND ANIMALS. MORE THAN ONE THOUSAND YEARS WILL PASS WHEN THE ALMORAVIDS CAME DOWN SOUTH TO INTRODUCE ISLAM. A TUKULOOR [ANOTHER SUBGROUP OF THE FULANI]REVOLUTIONIST CALLED WAR JABI WANTED TO OVERTHROW THE SEREER NOBILITY. HE CONVERTED TO ISLAM IN 1040 AD AND CONVERTED HIS FULANI/TUKULOOR FOLLOWERS. THE ALMORAVIDS GAVE THEM ASSISTANCE TO OVERTHROW THE SEREER NOBILITY AND ESTABLISHED AN ISLAM STATE IN TUKAR. THE SEREER REFUSING TO CONVERT TO THEIR ANCIENT RELIGION, WERE DOUBLED CROSSED BY THEIR FORMER SERVANTS [THE FULAS]WHO HAD COLLUDED WITH THE ARABS - EVEN THOUGHT THE TWO TRIBES HAD LIVED IN PEACE FOR CENTURIES AND EVEN MARRIED EACH OTHER. AS A RESULT OF THAT VICTORY, WAR JABI WAS CROWNED KING AND THE SEREER WERE EXILED FROM FUTA. THIS IS THE SECOND EXEDUS OF THE SEREER. |
Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
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Santanfara
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Posted - 18 Feb 2008 : 13:53:11
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| interesting tamsir. where can we find evidnece of your claims? is this written in any history books or is it orally taught? |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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