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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 12 Oct 2010 :  12:34:23  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Here it is. Gambia get bad government. If the government is bad, the alternative would replaced it. But it can not. Because, the alternative is not capable to offer an viable alternative (Opposition) In this case, one alternative to demand, change and debate the constitution, but there is no talk for constitution amendment which is one of the the main reason for the dead lock for creating alternative. The janko is not capable to demand, expect and offer alternative/solution for better, because lack of political skills and understanding. Janko does not read the political reality. What I am saying is that you, janko is not capable to understand to change, to set a standard, is not able to understand what the Gambia needs. If none of them happening, you get the government they deserve. So, it is Janko's fault and Janko deserve current situation. The value is to expose your disqualification. It is wasting of time to talk about unity which is the idea is criteria of unity is basic math 1 + 1 + 1 will be 3 so we will win the election. The problem is not the quantity. It is the quality of each element you try to add them together and its chemistry based on the platform called constitution. Janko gets the government he deserves. Because he is not even able to offer alternative to bad government.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 12 Oct 2010 12:42:58
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Janko

Gambia
1267 Posts

Posted - 12 Oct 2010 :  20:26:20  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message
GURU-turk, YOU did not answer my question.
What value are you adding to the discussion with your rep-eatable frogs.
You keep on hipping "it" up and the bigger it gets the less Gambia needs your night-frogs. You know, your GURU-SKAP is most needed in Turkai, leave us with ours, you will be disappointed when you get up from your finger-pointing obsession and find that WE did take care of OUR thang.

Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy
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toubab1020



12312 Posts

Posted - 12 Oct 2010 :  20:30:37  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Does this apply to everyone or just turk ?

Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy

One more post and its a great anniversary for you on Bantaba

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 12 Oct 2010 20:36:46
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 12 Oct 2010 :  20:40:21  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Janko

What a logic! I can't have much to say about Gambian politics, because I am not Gambian. And, Turkey, is needed my input more than Gambia. I don't care what you think. I will continue to post regardless of whether you think there is a value or not. Like I said, ignore my posts. This is a GAMBIAN forum that opens to anyone. And there is not restriction about non-gambians posting. Especially, there is no requirement the non-gambians cleaning their house. Why bring Turkey to this discussion? Turkey has nothing to do with this forum. THIS IS A GAMBIAN FORUM where people discuss about Gambia. Capish?

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 12 Oct 2010 20:41:08
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 12 Oct 2010 :  22:06:27  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
Related Bantaba Gambian politics topic Darboe Urged To Support Agenda 2011 under http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9865
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Janko

Gambia
1267 Posts

Posted - 13 Oct 2010 :  00:26:50  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message
turk,
you are right this is a “Gambian forum” -with GURU-turk, knowing what is best for Gambia.

turk, you are an intelligent guy, am sure you know what am alluding to but you choose a populist interpretation of my statement, well, let that stand for you. My question is why you keep on repeating the same points in nearly every discussion when they do not add any value but rather slung the discussion back in time and space. Secondly, why would you enjoy posting something that does not add any value to the discussion, why? And don’t tell me you do not care...

Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 13 Oct 2010 :  03:17:51  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
I am responding to Ousman. He is new, I am addressing to his points. He raised the points, I explain why I think about his point. I also explain kobo why I think health unity is not going to happen, one more time. If it is repeat, so just IGNORE it. I believe all of my posts have value. If you think they don't. Let me REPEAT again. IGNORE. Do you know what the meaning the word of IGNORE?

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 13 Oct 2010 03:18:30
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Ousman

USA
103 Posts

Posted - 13 Oct 2010 :  07:00:47  Show Profile  Visit Ousman's Homepage Send Ousman a Private Message
Turk,
I am not new to this forum. I have not been posting much, but I have been around for a few years. I have stated my opinion and how you or anyone else perceived it, is on you. You are entitle to your opinion so am I. Getting drag into food fights is not my modus operandi.

http://Gambian.blogspot.com
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Momodou



Denmark
11735 Posts

Posted - 13 Oct 2010 :  09:18:57  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by turk

I am responding to Ousman. He is new, ....

LOL! Ousman has been here a year longer than Turk.

A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 13 Oct 2010 :  11:08:42  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Ousman

Oh. Good for you. Not my intension to drag you any fight. Like you said, I am entitled to provide my opinion and respond your post like you are. I don't know why you felt obliged to explain anything about your modus operandi!!!!!

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 13 Oct 2010 12:29:46
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 14 Oct 2010 :  16:16:51  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by turk

Let me repeat myself again. Nations get the government they deserve!


Same as quoted from foroyaa editorial; "A society gets the type of leaders they deserve!". Refer related Bantaba Gambian politics topic Leadership, Wealth and Power under http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9229

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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 14 Oct 2010 :  16:45:21  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
wow kobo. You are really good at about the coverage of discussion we have here.


diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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Janko

Gambia
1267 Posts

Posted - 14 Oct 2010 :  18:00:13  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message
Of course one that has no opinion of his own and one that can not see beyond his "heff" are birds of the same.

Clean up and stand firm

Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 15 Oct 2010 :  15:23:55  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
Useful read & relevant updates on this topic from Maafanta.com;

1. Should we be Embarrassed by Yaya Jammeh’s Actions and Inactions? by a Patriot under http://www.maafanta.com/KusekehDuniyaJammehActionsandInactions.html

2. How Do We Bring About Change? A UDP Leadership on a Transitional Term by a Patriot under http://www.maafanta.com/KusekehDuniyaHowtobringaboutchange.html

3. No Defeatism. We should not let Jammeh highjack the government again by default , says Ousainu Darboe in a phone conference with Gambian on-line media publishers under http://www.maafanta.com/OusainuDarboePressconference.html
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 15 Oct 2010 :  15:53:33  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by dbaldeh

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3. UDP - Primary elections to select a flagbearer from different opposition parties is not feasible and UDP will not participate in such a primary. ..




dBaldeh I think that you deserve an apology for certain over-reactions, when topic was introduced as "Unofficial positions"

It is just lately I realised that there are some valid points that may have been related to BOTH PDOIS & UDP camps!

All 3 positions (PDOIS unofficial position), I think you tried to highlight some key areas from PDOIS proposals; especially Agenda 2011.

This point on UDP unofficial position; "3. UDP - Primary elections to select a flagbearer from different opposition parties is not feasible and UDP will not participate in such a primary."; appear to relate with this revealing statement from Fatou Jaw Manneh's interview with UDP leader, as quoted;
"In the same vein he categorically ruled out the notion of initiating a nation wide primary as a vehicle for settling on a
flag-bearer saying such a move is impractical, unnecessary and unprecedented. He said individual political parties can resort to primaries to choose their candidates ."
UDP Leader - Lawyer Ousainou Darboe

Refer Maafanta.com No Defeatism. We should not let Jammeh highjack the government again by default , says Ousainu Darboe in a phone conference with Gambian on-line media publishers under http://www.maafanta.com/OusainuDarboePressconference.html

ON A FINAL NOTE I THINK I HAVE GATHERED SUFFICIENT INFORMATION, OPINIONS, COMMENTS & PROPOSALS TO EXECUTE THE MELTING POT! AS PROMISED!




Edited by - kobo on 15 Oct 2010 15:55:57
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