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Jack
Belgium
384 Posts |
 Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 09:52:25
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Some information culled from the website of the IEC
http://www.iec.gm/
Registered Parties
Alliance For Patriotic Re-Orientation and Construction (A.P.R.C.)
Address: Sankung Sillah Building, Kairaba Ave., KMC
Telephone: (220) 974 5687
Fax: (220)
Party Symbol: Palm Tree against a green background
Party Colour: Green
Party Motto: Unity, Self Reliance, Progress
Party Leader and National Chairman:Professor Alh. Dr. Yahya A. J. J. Jammeh
Gambia Party for Democracy and Progress ( GPDP)
Address: P O Box 4014, Serekunda, Kombo St Mary
Telephone: (220) 9955226, (220) 9987766, (220) 7783430 & (220) 4398118, (220) 4225224
Party Symbol: Two Elephants
Party Colour: Orange
Party Motto: In God We Trust
Party Leader & Secretary General: Mr Henry Gomez
Gambia Moral Congress ( GMC)
Address: Kerr Serign, Wesctern Region
Telephone: (220)
Party Symbol: Eight White Stars
Party Colour: Red
Party Motto: People Power for Human Rights and Economic Justice
Party Leader & National Executive Chairman: Barrister Mai N.K. Fatty
National Alliance for Democracy and Development (NADD)
Address: 30 Papa Sarr Street Churchills Town
Telephone No.:
Party Symbol: Pointing Hand
Party Colour: Grey
Party Motto: Unity, Democracy, Development
Party Coordinator: Mr. Halifa Sallah
National Convention Party (NCP)
Address: 38 Sayerr Jobe Avenue, KMC
Mobile No: (220) 640 8128/ (220) 981 6698
Party Symbol: A Cutter
Party Colour: White
Party Motto: Semper Fidelis (Always Faithful)
Interim Secretary General: Mr. Ebrima Janko Sanyang
National Democratic Action Movement (NDAM)
Address: No. 1 Box Bar Road, Nema, Brikama Town, Western Division
Telephone: (220) 448 4990 / (220) 778 8882
E-mail address: ndam_gambia@hotmail.com
Party Symbol: Dislocated Chain
Party Colour: Ash Colour
Party Motto: Dare to Invent The Future Till Victory Always
Party Leader and Secretary General: Mr. Lamin Waa Juwara
National Reconciliation Party (NRP)
Address: 69, Daniel Goddard Street, Banjul.
Telephone: (220) 420 1371
Fax: (220) 420 1732
Party Symbol: Arm in Arm
Party Colour: Blue
Party Motto: Honesty, Equality and Justice
Party Leader and National Chairman: Mr. Hamat N. K. Bah |
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Jack
Belgium
384 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 09:55:52
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and some more
People’s Democratic Organisation for Independence and Socialism (PDOIS)
Address: No 1, Sambou Street, Churchill's Town,Serekunda
Telephone: (220) 439 3177
Fax: (220) 439 3177
E-mail address: foroyaa@qanet.gm
Party Symbol: Sun with 16 (sixteen) rays
Party Colour: Brown
Party Motto: Liberty, dignity and Prosperity
Party Leader: Central Committee, chaired by Mr. Sidia Jatta
Peoples Progressive Party (PPP)
Address: c/o Omar Jallow, Fajara M Section
Telephone: (220) 439 2674 / (220) 991 6474
Fax: (220) 439 2674
Party Symbol: Axe and Hoe
Party Colour: Hot Pink
Party Motto: "Vox Populi Vox Dei"
Party Leader and (Interim) Secretary: Mr Omar Jallow (OJ)
United Democratic Party (UDP)
Address: No. 1, Rene Blain Street, Banjul
Telephone: (220) 420 1730
Fax: (220) 422 4601
E-mail address: udpgambia@info.org
Website: www.udpgambia.org
Party Symbol: Unity Handshake
Party Colour: Yellow
Party Motto: Justice, Peace and Progress
Party Leader and Secretary General: Ousainou A. N. M. Darboe
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 13:38:33
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Jack and Kayjatta
Brain drain is happening not only for lack of human rights. Most of the brain drain is due to economic reasons. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 14:18:12
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It is false to think that you can put the people in chains while you develop the country. Great countries have made that mistake in the past and they have learned their lessons. I do not have to give you examples.
Give me examples. Give me example where human rights, democracy being priority while successful development in wealth, human development and socio-economic status.
What model have characteristics Gambia learn from. And political parties can produce solutions, policies and programs from other experiences. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Senegambia
175 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 14:39:40
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No matter how you put it; no matter how best you argue it, past, present or future; no matter how supportive you are of APRC; it will not matter with what authority or audacity you put it, this president and all that dust of sycophancy around him will settle down on the wrong pages of history books for the continuing disrespect of Human and People's rights and freedoms. As put up by a commentator, govt needs not choose between human rights and development. It can choose both. Respect for human rights implies development that is both defensible and more likely to be more sustainable. I personally know a few people who are experts in various fields of science and technology. They are willing to return home but not under the current situation where people are hired and fired without justifications.
To connect to the topic, personally, I think any oppoisition leader in Gambia will do much better than Jammeh both in development and in respect of human rights.
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Originally posted by turk
Jack and Kayjatta
Brain drain is happening not only for lack of human rights. Most of the brain drain is due to economic reasons.
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 14:57:29
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turk,
I find it interesting that, on the one hand you are advocating for education and on the other you are bashing colonialism and its influences. Colonialism is not only physical but also mental. What kind of education are you advocating, what should be the content?
It seems as we are confusing representation with education. A good representation should not be dependent on reading and or writing English. The problem of representation is structural and has nothing to do with the percentage of western educated individuals. To solve the question of representation is to incorporate other customary functions and structures like “Alkoloship” etc. into governance.
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Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 15:45:30
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Janko
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The problem of representation is structural and has nothing to do with the percentage of western educated individuals.
But problem of representation is a lot to do with the percentage of literacy where individual can be part of written communication. Anyway.
I did not quite understand what you are referring when you point my advocating for education and bashing colonialism. But I agree that colonialism being mental as well.
When I advocate education it is from basic education for literacy so that people actually have a chance to participate via reading/writing. The low literacy rate is one of the biggest obstacle for participation which democracy requires. Looking at your 'colonialism being mental' point, I guess you want to point that education also include to enlighten people about history, being good citizen, patriotism which I agree. Correct me if I am wrong.
You are right, reading and writing is not alone help but you have to admit it is basic requirement. The literacy is essential for communication, janko. However, if you read my other topic that i did mention about de-centralization for a model for Gambia, and i did mention having local institutions having more authority and responsibility in governence, like you mentioned 'alkoloship' into governence. So there is an agreement there. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 30 Jul 2010 16:03:19 |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 15:51:15
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To connect to the topic, personally, I think any oppoisition leader in Gambia will do much better than Jammeh both in development and in respect of human rights.
You believe that based on what? You are saying this based on your biased expectation and assumptions. I think the problems of Gambia is little to do with personalities of the leaders. It is more structural and socio-economic realities in Gambia. There is not guarantee that those opposition will not turn to a Jammeh when they govern. Look at Mugabe. Look how he was before, look how he is now. Power corrupts people, the problem of Gambia is not Person A or B. Remember Jammeh also came to power with promises, just like opposition leaders today. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 30 Jul 2010 15:53:47 |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 15:57:29
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I personally know a few people who are experts in various fields of science and technology. They are willing to return home but not under the current situation where people are hired and fired without justifications.
If one has an expertise in certain field, even they get the top position in Government in Gambia, the compensation is very low. They would do much better in the western world, that is why they are moving on. That is why many engineers, doctors, qualified people are moving to Western world as a migrant from the third world countries. Most migration is based on wealth reasons. I am not sure how valid for those who migrate to western world due to solely on human rights and lack of freedom.
Besides, if you have expertise on specific field, those can have their own business, and they do not have to have concern of hiring/firing by the government. Government is not the only option for those to be part of Gambian economy. In fact, government workers paid much lower than private sector when it comes to skilled professionals. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 30 Jul 2010 16:00:15 |
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Senegambia
175 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2010 : 16:48:26
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I will not deny being biased, maybe I am. But the realities too are doing the talking. I will agree with you that the problem is not solely that of leadership but also that of the people. But remember most Gambians are either undecutated or inexperienced. So a responsible leadership cannot rely on people's inexperience to impose a dictatorship. A responsible leadership must respect the people and make them feel proud of themselves, their traditions, their heritage and not make them feel like powerless souls bound to live at the leader's mercy. "Vote for me or you get nothing from the government"!
Turk do you hear the saying "What you see is what you get"? It may sound funny but just take a look at the opposition leaders.
Darboe, Jatta, Fatty, Sallah and Bah. Fine gentlemen with excellent credentials. They respect their people, the law and they advovate for the supremacy of the constitution. They have no reasons to be greedy for power or money. All of them are capable of making it on their own. Infact a some of them have made it more than me and many of you. I look at them and I can imagine the worst to expect. But Jammeh! Gosh! He came to power very angry. He graduated from hungry and made it to greedy. He has no plans of graduating from there....yet. I was there to see him from the beginning in 1994. I saw him evolved from one character to another. I saw him thrashing one rule after the other. I and others know him too much!
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Originally posted by turk
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To connect to the topic, personally, I think any oppoisition leader in Gambia will do much better than Jammeh both in development and in respect of human rights.
You believe that based on what? You are saying this based on your biased expectation and assumptions. I think the problems of Gambia is little to do with personalities of the leaders. It is more structural and socio-economic realities in Gambia...
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2010 : 19:10:31
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turk,
Remember the slogan “taxation without representation?
Making Western education a qualifier for an inclusive representation is not only unrealistic but also colonial in it self. Western education should not in any way or form be a determinant for broad and an inclusive representation.
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Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
Edited by - Janko on 31 Jul 2010 19:11:33 |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2010 : 20:22:50
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Janko
What Western Education? You are referring as western education. That is your term. What was the written communication before colonial times? Literacy is the basic requirement for participation in politics. It is basic requirements for learning, educating. Literacy is basic requirement for universal communication. I don't understand when you refer western education. OK, what is the alternative to so-called western education? I am using different term which is literacy. Literacy is not western, it is universal tool to communicate in written language. Are you proposing to replace the English alphabet with something else? Other than English there is no written language to communicate in Gambia. Correct me if I am wroing. Your insistence of this 'western measure' does not make no sense. I am sorry. I am not buying it. Gambia's official language is English.
And also, you are opposing 'western education as a qualifier' while we are discussing democracy and politics which are western as well. Can you explain the inconsistency? |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 31 Jul 2010 20:27:52 |
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Kitabul Arerr
Gambia
645 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2010 : 22:54:27
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Guess whø's also the Grand Master of the Order of The Gambia.......................lol?
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The New Gambia - Stronger Together! |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jul 2010 : 23:48:27
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turk,
Literacy is the basic requirement for participation in politics.
So, what do you mean by "literacy"? Do you mean there was no politics before colonialism. You see, when the colonialist came they thought the same way you are doing now, "we are going to civilize them"
Literacy is basic requirement for universal communication.
On whose terms? Who decides that?
Other than English there is no written language to communicate in Gambia.
Yes there is, Arabic scholars use Arabic alphabets to write Gambian languages.
Can you explain the inconsistency?
On the one hand you said democracy is not for Gambia that Gambia should look elsewhere and on the other you are saying the only way to democracy is literacy. |
Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 01 Aug 2010 : 03:48:00
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Literacy. Being able to communicate in written form. Reading and writing. Now we are in internet times. We have newspapers. We have discussion board, web pages. Whether you like it or not, this is how the universal knowledge sharing tool. If you want to continue old way, that is fine. But you are the one who wants democracy which is also something brought to you by colonialism. Ok, here is the question, do you also want a government system, other than what we called 'democracy' which is colonial as well. If that is the case, our requirements may change.
Humanity decides that literacy is requirement for communication which is basis of political participation. Literacy is communication that humans use when oral communication is not available, for example to ready political party manifest. It is required by democracy. Do you advocate for democracy. Do you not?
Arabic alphabet is only used for religious versus. Arabic is not used for Gambian languages. Even Arabic is used for Gambian languages, you still need to be literate about arabic. Gambians who are able to read in arabic is not more than the ones in English alphabet.
That is what I am flexible. In my opinion, democracy does not fit Gambian realities for now. Gambia needs to have socia-economic changes first. I think Gambians should build something that fit them. On the other hand, if they want to implement democracy, in this case, i think if they are implementing democracy which is western, they should also have qualifications for democracy that are western as well.
It looks like we both inconsistence. Ok, here is my proposal in terms of options.
1. If Gambia want to implement western democracy, they need to comply with the western qualifications. Or
2. If Gambia want to implement something local, than western qualifications may not appy.
How about that? |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 01 Aug 2010 03:51:48 |
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