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Kitabul Arerr
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 Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 18:07:17
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What's the lesser evil, toubab? Trial by mercenary judge, or, by a jury of one's peers, considering the present circumstances? I prefer the later. No argument can convince me to sway my opinion, well almost, on the condition that no mercenary judges were involved..................................lol!
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Originally posted by toubab1020
KitabulArerr.
It would appear that your idea would not work in The Gambia,not because it is not a good one but because of other social and political facets that exist in The Gambia of today,has what you have read in reply to your initial posting made you modify your original thoughts on this?
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dbaldeh
USA
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 18:48:13
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Originally posted by Janko
Thanks, dBaldeh
Please, help me understand the statement;
"... just like the same fantasy we have for allowing Gambian Diaspora to vote like the Guineans did..."
Uncle Janko, I just meant to elaborate on the recent fantasies that the IEC might push for registration and voting of Gambian Diaspora. The Guineans all over the world voted in their recent elections....
It is a fantasy for Gambians and Jammeh will never allow that to happen.
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Moe
USA
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 18:55:17
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Uncle Janko,
'Peul Bu teetey rekk neh KAW" Tell the Man that It is not Jammeh resposibility to allow Gambians to Vote Overseas or abroad. Not his responsibility today or tommorow and he has absolutely no control over that.......................................Peace |
I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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Prince
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 20:02:33
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What's the lesser evil, toubab? Trial by mercenary judge, or, by a jury of one's peers, considering the present circumstances? I prefer the later. No argument can convince me to sway my opinion, well almost, on the condition that no mercenary judges were involved..................................lol!
Kitab, you're just being stubborn . The troubles of our justice system has nothing to do with the way trials are conducted.
Jury trials will be inherently difficult to conduct in jollof. For example, culturally, what the average Gambian considers "justice," significantly differs from what is constitutionally acceptable. A considerable portion of our people also believe that applying "western" laws is equivalent to playing god and trespassing on divine domain.
Furthermore, some difficult village folks like Moe do not, or sometimes, do not want to understand simple English . Hence, important aspects of the judge's instructions could be lost in translation, which could lead to a mistrials and a backlog of cases. Shady people like my uncle could also easily accept kolanuts in exchange for favorable verdicts... i know this coz he frequently diverts family money to his private use, then yells out the names of all the heavenly to plea his innocence!
What Gambia needs is; an independent judiciary, a bar which stands its ground, and competently trained legal practitioners. Some of those loud mouths are often poorly trained at "life experience" correspondence learning schools and Podunk universities! |
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Prince
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 20:25:33
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It is a fantasy for Gambians and Jammeh will never allow that to happen.
You're in for a big surprise... there are more "Gambians" in Southern Senegal than the rest of the world combined! |
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Moe
USA
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Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 20:43:52
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Prince you summed it all up and I won't even waste my time at this point. They all lack training and it's even worse with the attorney's that could barely pass their Bar exams practicing law privately in Gambia.(no names) Tell you the truth I feel sorry for most of the Accused. In my opinion they will never have a chance to a fair Trial, not when you are better off using Villager Moe as your legal expert...................................................Peacequote:
Originally posted by Prince
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What's the lesser evil, toubab? Trial by mercenary judge, or, by a jury of one's peers, considering the present circumstances? I prefer the later. No argument can convince me to sway my opinion, well almost, on the condition that no mercenary judges were involved..................................lol!
Kitab, you're just being stubborn. The troubles of our justice system has nothing to do with the way trials are conducted.
Jury trials will be inherently difficult to conduct in jollof. For example, culturally, what the average Gambian considers "justice," significantly differs from what is constitutionally acceptable. A considerable portion of our people also believe that applying "western" laws is equivalent to playing god and trespassing on divine domain.
Furthermore, some difficult village folks like Moe do not, or sometimes, do not want to understand simple English. Hence, important aspects of the judge's instructions could be lost in translation, which could lead to a mistrials and a backlog of cases. Shady people like my uncle could also easily accept kolanuts in exchange for favorable verdicts... i know this coz he frequently diverts family money to his private use, then yells out the names of all the heavenly to plea his innocence!
What Gambia needs is; an independent judiciary, a bar which stands its ground, and competently trained legal practitioners. Some of those loud mouths are often poorly trained at "life experience" correspondence learning schools and Podunk universities!
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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Kitabul Arerr
Gambia
645 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 21:18:09
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My catch phrase is "lesser evil", and you (plural    ), just can't wiggle yourselves from the fact, that is, mercenary vs. peers. Be true, guys or girls, to my argument. Amything else is insignificant, and just burying your heads in the sand, period...................lol!
You've already doomed "trial by ones's peers evil. I repeat, which is the lesser evil?!?!?!
BTW, you (plural) would have choosen a jury of your peers to sit, (may God forbid!!!) and determine your fate in a dubious trial. I would've..........................................lol! |
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Edited by - Kitabul Arerr on 19 Jul 2010 21:28:34 |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 20 Jul 2010 : 00:58:16
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Sorry I cannot answer that question,the system is BROKEN and it requires an overhaul to work properly,just like a donkey cart is pretty useless if the donkey only has 3 legs
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Originally posted by Kitabul Arerr
What's the lesser evil, toubab? Trial by mercenary judge, or, by a jury of one's peers, considering the present circumstances? I prefer the later. No argument can convince me to sway my opinion, well almost, on the condition that no mercenary judges were involved..................................lol!
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Originally posted by toubab1020
KitabulArerr.
It would appear that your idea would not work in The Gambia,not because it is not a good one but because of other social and political facets that exist in The Gambia of today,has what you have read in reply to your initial posting made you modify your original thoughts on this?
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Edited by - toubab1020 on 20 Jul 2010 01:00:03 |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 20 Jul 2010 : 01:01:45
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Common sense Prince, Thanks.
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Originally posted by Prince
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What's the lesser evil, toubab? Trial by mercenary judge, or, by a jury of one's peers, considering the present circumstances? I prefer the later. No argument can convince me to sway my opinion, well almost, on the condition that no mercenary judges were involved..................................lol!
Kitab, you're just being stubborn. The troubles of our justice system has nothing to do with the way trials are conducted.
Jury trials will be inherently difficult to conduct in jollof. For example, culturally, what the average Gambian considers "justice," significantly differs from what is constitutionally acceptable. A considerable portion of our people also believe that applying "western" laws is equivalent to playing god and trespassing on divine domain.
Furthermore, some difficult village folks like Moe do not, or sometimes, do not want to understand simple English. Hence, important aspects of the judge's instructions could be lost in translation, which could lead to a mistrials and a backlog of cases. Shady people like my uncle could also easily accept kolanuts in exchange for favorable verdicts... i know this coz he frequently diverts family money to his private use, then yells out the names of all the heavenly to plea his innocence!
What Gambia needs is; an independent judiciary, a bar which stands its ground, and competently trained legal practitioners. Some of those loud mouths are often poorly trained at "life experience" correspondence learning schools and Podunk universities!
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Kitabul Arerr
Gambia
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Posted - 20 Jul 2010 : 01:13:44
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Totally agree, toubab, even with your evading my question.
Insane, putting the carrage before the horse, regardless of it's abilities.............................................lol!
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Originally posted by toubab1020
Sorry I cannot answer that question,the system is BROKEN and it requires an overhaul to work properly,just like a donkey cart is pretty useless if the donkey only has 3 legs
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Originally posted by Kitabul Arerr
What's the lesser evil, toubab? Trial by mercenary judge, or, by a jury of one's peers, considering the present circumstances? I prefer the later. No argument can convince me to sway my opinion, well almost, on the condition that no mercenary judges were involved..................................lol!
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Originally posted by toubab1020
KitabulArerr.
It would appear that your idea would not work in The Gambia,not because it is not a good one but because of other social and political facets that exist in The Gambia of today,has what you have read in reply to your initial posting made you modify your original thoughts on this?
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2010 : 01:48:39
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If you Keep talking like this, no more hatred , jealousy, accusations and all the rhetoric out there. Soon you will be crowned Grand Mansa Prince. Dude am tired of being one of the few people that like to tell the Truth or address issues without bias. I don't blame them though, 16 years of "Duul Kesseh" will turn a man into a habitual liar. Kinda like "Jaaf" or "Chorka", no matter how many times you shave, it's bound to grow back. The theme of this Bantaba is "Baye leenn Fenn" so we can discuss the future of our nation peacefully and in a mature fashion or everyday I will remind you how worthless and and hopeless yaou all are. I hope you are listening to what I am saying Chinese Shoes. If there is a problem and you don't know how and what please ask Demba, Lamarana and Galleh Galleh don't know a god damn thing you can bet on that.. "Waa Dehgi ngen hamoulenn Tuss".
OKay one more time no more backbiting, slander, jealousy, hate, snitching, and ruining the Image of the Gambia and we can all discuss this otherwise I got my cane, yes I got a cane and some will get their asses whipped either way, especially Demba the robot.You will not organize a goddamn thing around here Demba "IDA SUKA" just keep that in Mind. Everyone is busy defending their words nowadays, we hate chinese movies or Indian Movies. take your chairman title to the dumpster we hire the chairmen and presidents The next time I hear you say something about Daba Marenah or Korro Ceesay you will tell us what happened to them Demba. You fools have no shame whatsoever, All the way from Niumi to I know what happened to Daba Marenah and Korro Ceesay and who was involved. This goes out to all you Gorr Gegaines out there, what happened to them my friends?.BTW Demba You cannot vote in two countries the Guinea elections is already over forget about it....................................................Peace quote:
Originally posted by Prince
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What's the lesser evil, toubab? Trial by mercenary judge, or, by a jury of one's peers, considering the present circumstances? I prefer the later. No argument can convince me to sway my opinion, well almost, on the condition that no mercenary judges were involved..................................lol!
Kitab, you're just being stubborn. The troubles of our justice system has nothing to do with the way trials are conducted.
Jury trials will be inherently difficult to conduct in jollof. For example, culturally, what the average Gambian considers "justice," significantly differs from what is constitutionally acceptable. A considerable portion of our people also believe that applying "western" laws is equivalent to playing god and trespassing on divine domain.
Furthermore, some difficult village folks like Moe do not, or sometimes, do not want to understand simple English. Hence, important aspects of the judge's instructions could be lost in translation, which could lead to a mistrials and a backlog of cases. Shady people like my uncle could also easily accept kolanuts in exchange for favorable verdicts... i know this coz he frequently diverts family money to his private use, then yells out the names of all the heavenly to plea his innocence!
What Gambia needs is; an independent judiciary, a bar which stands its ground, and competently trained legal practitioners. Some of those loud mouths are often poorly trained at "life experience" correspondence learning schools and Podunk universities!
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
Edited by - Moe on 20 Jul 2010 01:53:03 |
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Kitabul Arerr
Gambia
645 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2010 : 02:03:11
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My advice to your Sista O., Moe, is not to "negotiate" that guitar with a AK47.
She can leave that to the rude boys........................................lol! |
The New Gambia - Stronger Together! |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 20 Jul 2010 : 04:12:16
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| MOE.you wrote...... "I got my cane, yes I got a cane " bet its not sugar cane though. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Edited by - toubab1020 on 20 Jul 2010 04:12:59 |
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Moe
USA
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Posted - 20 Jul 2010 : 05:34:39
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No matter how much you "Kudall" toubab1020, it will never be sugar cane, Toubab equals "Banty Yomba" or banana gollo............................................Peacequote:
Originally posted by toubab1020
MOE.you wrote...... "I got my cane, yes I got a cane " bet its not sugar cane though.
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
Edited by - Moe on 20 Jul 2010 05:59:37 |
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Kitabul Arerr
Gambia
645 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2010 : 22:32:55
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LOl! LOl! LOl!
Translation4Toubab1020
Kudall=HardOn
Banty Yomba=Poor man's cigar
Banana gollo=Monkey banana
Moe's really trying to send you a message......................lol!
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Originally posted by Moe
No matter how much you "Kudall" toubab1020, it will never be sugar cane, Toubab equals "Banty Yomba" or banana gollo............................................Peacequote:
Originally posted by toubab1020
MOE.you wrote...... "I got my cane, yes I got a cane " bet its not sugar cane though.
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