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bread man



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Posted - 24 Apr 2010 :  20:44:20  Show Profile Send bread man a Private Message

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Originally posted by shaka

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Originally posted by bread man

Mo, say it again, I also just came from the beautiful Gambia 3days ago and the Jammeh critics must be sorry for them selves. Can you imagin one of the best quality rice in the world is (Thai jasmine rice AAA) is availabe in the gambia at affordable prices (20kg@340dalasis) Now the people can eat real rice and not the donkey rice we all grew up in. Jammeh is feeding the people and thats what really counts. I hope bros karamba and co can go and see for them selves.


Breadman the Thai Jasmine is still beyond the reach of the average man. The rice they eat is not even fit for horses. It is full of pebbles, tiny stones, other inedible material and lacks flavour. You risk damaging your teeth eating that stuff. You also forget to mention the 'sleeping cooking oil'(one of the sources of the rapid rise in heart diseases in the Gambia) and the filtered well water sold for D40 a litre bottle. The cheapest source of bottled water in the Gambia. Add this to the cost of fish and meat and the Sheikh is doing a wonderful job indeed. Starving the people. It is easy to praise the Sheikh when you are shopping from a supermarket. The Thai Jasmine is not sold in the local shops and you know that.

wrong again Shaka, Thai jasmine rice is sold in the local market thats were i first found it when I was out to buy the so call best rice available (OBAMA). So get your selves acquainted to the development taking place in our beautiful Gambia spearheaded by the abled Proffessor and Head of State Yahya Jammeh.

It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it.
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shaka



996 Posts

Posted - 25 Apr 2010 :  00:52:56  Show Profile Send shaka a Private Message
Ok Beadman, let's agree that i am not so currently aquainted with some comodities sold in the Gambian market. Would you agree with me that at D340 for a 20kg bag of rice that price is too extortionate for the average Gambian? Here is some facts for you: The world market price of rice is currently set at approximately $541 per metric tone. This means that the price of rice as sold in markets, supermarkets and shops around the world should be nothing more than 54 cents per kilo. The price of the 20kg Thai Jasmine should be selling for approximately D281. If the Gambia government reduced the stifling import duty on rice, the Thai Jasmine could sell for less than D250 for a 20kg bag. Isn't it evil that Gambians are buying this same rice for D340 for 20kg. Rice is more expensive in Gambia than Babylon, even though the average wage is about 50 times more than Gambia. And Babylon does not even produce rice except for 5 or 6 states in the US. This trend of stark price diference is reflected in a wide range of various comodities in the Gambian market including the most basic. So you cannot claim development when the people are facing starvation. And the Sheikh is no bloody farmer either, but a ruthless land grabber and thief playing with human lives. If he wants food self-sufficiency in the Gambia, he aught to give back the land to the people and concentrate his effort on making sure that farmers enjoy the same facilitate(agricultural implements, machinery and equipments as well as expertise and good storge facilities) as Kanilai farm and his numerous other farms dotted across the country. Until then he remains a ranting clueless farmer.

Edited by - shaka on 25 Apr 2010 01:08:58
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 25 Apr 2010 :  01:18:06  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message
Shaka,

Lot of thanks for this painstaking reflection. I can pledge the big head of chief Jammeh that Bread man will not stay away from the dust and mud. He will say thousand times that we have to embrace the professor's trans-figuring developments at the cost of dear life. Bo, we sef get eye for see wo!

Bread man does need help.

Look again at what he wrote:

"wrong again Shaka, Thai jasmine rice is sold in the local market thats were i first found it when I was out to buy the so call best rice available (OBAMA). So get your selves acquainted to the development taking place in our beautiful Gambia spearheaded by the abled Proffessor and Head of State Yahya Jammeh." Bread Man

Karamba

Edited by - Karamba on 25 Apr 2010 01:20:16
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shaka



996 Posts

Posted - 25 Apr 2010 :  02:54:08  Show Profile Send shaka a Private Message
The above is unfortunately the naked reality in the Gambia, Karamba. No amount of ngewelyaa can ulter that reality. I went to a supermaket in the Gambia last year and saw cartons of soft drinks on shelves clearly labeled 69p(British) on the carton. The little prints on the cartons also says it should not be sold for anything more. Guess what those Arab fcukers were selling it for? D120. I took the liberty of finding out the exchange rate for the British Pound Sterling. To my astonishment it was approximately D40 to a Pound. Can you believe this? What should be selling for approximately D28 is selling for friggin D120. I completely lost it, so much so that my wife had to restrain me. I immediately opened two cartons and drank a good content from each, proceed to the checked-out and offered D52 to cashier reminding her of the price on the carton and that they law says i shall only pay for the price on the item. A tussle ensued with the security guards and all. The manager came out and i never mince myy words in telling him that he is an extortionist and i would sue the Supermarket and expose their evil to the whole world if they give me anymore grief. The tosser became all friendly and offered to see me in his office with "you know, you Europeans are very funny" and all that ****. Do i look like a fcuking European? I told him to sell for the right price or get the sh*t off his shelves or i am going to give him hell. I never went in there again. These are some of the evil bast*rds extorting the living daylight out of the people. And they are friends of The Sheikh and 'big people' in this mad government. Get lost Moe, i am not a badola either.
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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 25 Apr 2010 :  04:10:18  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
Ok Shaka I totally disagree simply because a 20kg bag of rice in america is approximately $25 dollars after taxes ,Am pretty sure it's more expensive than it is in Gambia, What you are missing out on is the fact that all these products being imported into Gambia are subjected to importation and taxation ,not to mention storage at the various facilities including labour , shipping dock fees etc. This is prior to even reaching the vendors . Who are also subjected to licence fees storage and manpower . I think your calculations are a bit off , A simple shop at Kairaba avenue is about $1500 U.S dollars for a 6 month lease bro . I think you are confusing the realities on the ground and whats really happening .True there is a lot of foreigners and these are not broke foreigners ,this is the real problem in Gambia .U know what happens when a few individuals control wealth and mostly foreigners and a few Gambians.

It's the same thing in Senegal,I was there for the unveiling of the "African Rennaissance", The sky rocketing prices is normal through out Africa. A can of Coca Cola cost me 1500cfa whilst in the U.S a can of soda is about 50 cents. That's a very unfair assessment of the rising prices.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/04/senegal-african-renaissance-statue

I think you are being unfair with the Sheikh once again, The farming industry was as dead as gone. Jammeh revived it and Gambians from all walks of life are now venturing into Farming , A week prior to leaving a friend of mine who resides in London came into town, a day later he calls me up and tells me he is going to his farm in "Busuraba" I eenquired as to what a city boy knows about farming he laughed and said am the chicken man in town now, we started talking chicken and eggs+cost ,soon I came to the realization that I was speaking to the Gambian bill Gates if all goes well for him

I think the allegation of land grabbing is untrue and all these farms prior to being president Jammehs farms ,whether allocated or gifts from Gambian elders were Barren . The farms in the first place is bringing development to isolated towns and villages meanwhile providing jobs for the residents . I would totally disagree, It's all unfounded Shaka. The fact is proceeds fromthese farms go to the Jammeh foundation for peace ,C'mon now hate the man or love him ,he is one brilliant son of a gun.

There are plenty of organizations providing the same services the Sheikh has access to ,Trust me it's a whole different ball game , they have access to tractors and equipment and this includes access to loans and fertilizers. The other day a Gambian received grants of almost 1 million plus for his farms, so it is very untrue. Land for farming is available through out the country but the fact is children of farmer don't wanna farm any more and that has transformed the whole industry into little patches of subsistence farmers ,truth be told Jammeh gave agriculture a heartbeat and hope since it was already dead and gone.

You should know that the role of attaining food self sufficiency is not only up to the Government of the day , Just across Banjul in Barra the interstate system can take you basically to various parts of the country in a short period of time and this includes Kerewan ,Soma etc , It's approximately 3 hours on Pliable roads , The infrastructure has been laid Bro and the facilities and expertise is readily available and that is the truth and nothing but the truth.........................................................Peace
quote:
Originally posted by shaka

Ok Beadman, let's agree that i am not so currently aquainted with some comodities sold in the Gambian market. Would you agree with me that at D340 for a 20kg bag of rice that price is too extortionate for the average Gambian? Here is some facts for you: The world market price of rice is currently set at approximately $541 per metric tone. This means that the price of rice as sold in markets, supermarkets and shops around the world should be nothing more than 54 cents per kilo. The price of the 20kg Thai Jasmine should be selling for approximately D281. If the Gambia government reduced the stifling import duty on rice, the Thai Jasmine could sell for less than D250 for a 20kg bag. Isn't it evil that Gambians are buying this same rice for D340 for 20kg. Rice is more expensive in Gambia than Babylon, even though the average wage is about 50 times more than Gambia. And Babylon does not even produce rice except for 5 or 6 states in the US. This trend of stark price diference is reflected in a wide range of various comodities in the Gambian market including the most basic. So you cannot claim development when the people are facing starvation. And the Sheikh is no bloody farmer either, but a ruthless land grabber and thief playing with human lives. If he wants food self-sufficiency in the Gambia, he aught to give back the land to the people and concentrate his effort on making sure that farmers enjoy the same facilitate(agricultural implements, machinery and equipments as well as expertise and good storge facilities) as Kanilai farm and his numerous other farms dotted across the country. Until then he remains a ranting clueless farmer.


I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....

Edited by - Moe on 25 Apr 2010 04:42:35
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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 25 Apr 2010 :  04:25:51  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
Quiting acting like they ain't suppose to add importation taxes ,stocking fees ,manpower etc. Their boutique was not Jammeh's store Shaka ,LOl yeah yeah yeah , "Badola be". What happened to Wonjo and guava juice , icy buuye. The problem is foreign products ,I also hated the chinese orange can drinks ,I swear it is poison ,it is laced with so much sugar it tastes like honey......................................Peace
quote:
Originally posted by shaka

The above is unfortunately the naked reality in the Gambia, Karamba. No amount of ngewelyaa can ulter that reality. I went to a supermaket in the Gambia last year and saw cartons of soft drinks on shelves clearly labeled 69p(British) on the carton. The little prints on the cartons also says it should not be sold for anything more. Guess what those Arab fcukers were selling it for? D120. I took the liberty of finding out the exchange rate for the British Pound Sterling. To my astonishment it was approximately D40 to a Pound. Can you believe this? What should be selling for approximately D28 is selling for friggin D120. I completely lost it, so much so that my wife had to restrain me. I immediately opened two cartons and drank a good content from each, proceed to the checked-out and offered D52 to cashier reminding her of the price on the carton and that they law says i shall only pay for the price on the item. A tussle ensued with the security guards and all. The manager came out and i never mince myy words in telling him that he is an extortionist and i would sue the Supermarket and expose their evil to the whole world if they give me anymore grief. The tosser became all friendly and offered to see me in his office with "you know, you Europeans are very funny" and all that ****. Do i look like a fcuking European? I told him to sell for the right price or get the sh*t off his shelves or i am going to give him hell. I never went in there again. These are some of the evil bast*rds extorting the living daylight out of the people. And they are friends of The Sheikh and 'big people' in this mad government. Get lost Moe, i am not a badola either.


I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....
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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 25 Apr 2010 :  04:32:55  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
Hello Karamba ,I know u missing me u retard. Listen to me carefully ,slander and defamation of character is against the law in Gambia ,Please save us your rantings ,We are here to discuss Politics ,Learn quick or shut your mouth, We are getting bored baby sitting you . This is season 2 hopefully you are a grown man now. Every Gambian should be disgusted with your rantings and allegations , try it with any one and all of cyberspace will break loose ,if it fails the Front of the Newspaper Test" hopefully you know it's unethical and unacceptable.What you do is backward and abhorrent ,I understand being the bantaba fool is not easy yet slow your role ,grown men talking now....................................................Peace
quote:
Originally posted by Karamba

Shaka,

Lot of thanks for this painstaking reflection. I can pledge the big head of chief Jammeh that Bread man will not stay away from the dust and mud. He will say thousand times that we have to embrace the professor's trans-figuring developments at the cost of dear life. Bo, we sef get eye for see wo!

Bread man does need help.

Look again at what he wrote:

"wrong again Shaka, Thai jasmine rice is sold in the local market thats were i first found it when I was out to buy the so call best rice available (OBAMA). So get your selves acquainted to the development taking place in our beautiful Gambia spearheaded by the abled Proffessor and Head of State Yahya Jammeh." Bread Man


I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....
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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 25 Apr 2010 :  08:36:08  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
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You think the Chairman will ever finish reading the book soon; it's a pretty sizeable book.Hey Moe, we do not want another coup in the GPU-USA, okay. DBaldeh is in charge now, after Mathew Jallow's bloodless coup last year(thank goodness!). We are back to democracy...


Look Kayjatta, I'm pretty sure he was one of the first people to read it ,he was at the unveilling, Gambians have moved forward , the least of their worries is this garbage being peddled in cyberspace . About coups, am not a coupist I just take what rightfully belongs to me but as you stated since there is a semblance of democracy I will withdraw my self appointment and see what happens next year ............LOL by force....................................Peace

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....
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shaka



996 Posts

Posted - 25 Apr 2010 :  13:10:52  Show Profile Send shaka a Private Message
Moe don't buy into importation cost and all that bull****. What retails for £0.69 in the UK should never retail for £3.00 in a poor country like the Gambia. If the UK retailer and the Gambian wholesaler buy from the same source it is absolutely sick to think that a comodity should sell for three times the value of a UK retailer in the Gambia considering that the cost of bringing that comodity to the consumer is 50 times in the UK more than in the Gambia. You cannot even begin to compare the cost of taxes, storage, labour etc in the UK to the Gambia. Let us assume that both the UK retailer and the Gambian businessman buy their stock from a Wholesaler in the UK at £0.30(less VAT for the Gambian businessman) per carton. Can you compare the cost of shop rental, salaries, taxes and storage etc of the UK retailer and the Gambian businessman? Forget about the cost of shipping and duties for the Gambian business because what he saves as 0% VAT in the UK will meet that cost( the UK retailer meanwhile pays 17.5% as VAT). The difference in cost is a million miles apart. If the UK retailer can determine that the cost of bringing the comodity to the UK consumer is £0.69 inorder to make a profit. Why should the poor Gambian consumer pay £3.00 for the same item. That is the logic Moe. The fact is the Gambia government does not give a damn because it gets 10% of the value of sale(VAT). That is £0.30 in this case. It is only the Gambia consumer who pays the evil price of this criminal enterprise. The government is meant to protect consumers not collude with criminals to defraud the masses to pay for its montrous debts.
quote:
Originally posted by Moe

Quiting acting like they ain't suppose to add importation taxes ,stocking fees ,manpower etc. Their boutique was not Jammeh's store Shaka ,LOl yeah yeah yeah , "Badola be". What happened to Wonjo and guava juice , icy buuye. The problem is foreign products ,I also hated the chinese orange can drinks ,I swear it is poison ,it is laced with so much sugar it tastes like honey......................................Peace
quote:
Originally posted by shaka

The above is unfortunately the naked reality in the Gambia, Karamba. No amount of ngewelyaa can ulter that reality. I went to a supermaket in the Gambia last year and saw cartons of soft drinks on shelves clearly labeled 69p(British) on the carton. The little prints on the cartons also says it should not be sold for anything more. Guess what those Arab fcukers were selling it for? D120. I took the liberty of finding out the exchange rate for the British Pound Sterling. To my astonishment it was approximately D40 to a Pound. Can you believe this? What should be selling for approximately D28 is selling for friggin D120. I completely lost it, so much so that my wife had to restrain me. I immediately opened two cartons and drank a good content from each, proceed to the checked-out and offered D52 to cashier reminding her of the price on the carton and that they law says i shall only pay for the price on the item. A tussle ensued with the security guards and all. The manager came out and i never mince myy words in telling him that he is an extortionist and i would sue the Supermarket and expose their evil to the whole world if they give me anymore grief. The tosser became all friendly and offered to see me in his office with "you know, you Europeans are very funny" and all that ****. Do i look like a fcuking European? I told him to sell for the right price or get the sh*t off his shelves or i am going to give him hell. I never went in there again. These are some of the evil bast*rds extorting the living daylight out of the people. And they are friends of The Sheikh and 'big people' in this mad government. Get lost Moe, i am not a badola either.



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kaanibaa



United Kingdom
1169 Posts

Posted - 25 Apr 2010 :  14:19:48  Show Profile Send kaanibaa a Private Message
Shaka you sound to me as a very good economists and your calculations and comparisons make a lot of sense to me.I wonder why Moe keeps trying to whitewash issues here for us after all; the suffering our people face in trying to survive these economic imbalances are stark realities which cannot be sugar-coated by his apologies . I simply do not miss you Moe ,why not go back to where ever you were hiding and leave us alone. Rest assured that we shall challenge your falsehood every step of the way and the sooner you get that right the better for your tiny brain. I also thought you have grown mature, but it is still clear that you still have your head stuck in the Kaninglie sands , you cannot make us follow you down that alley, keep it for yourself ah ah now.I am sure you will follow this with an insult as usual which as usual is welcome for me.Bring it on then bruver!
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shaka



996 Posts

Posted - 25 Apr 2010 :  14:46:35  Show Profile Send shaka a Private Message
Bullsh*t!! Bullsh*t!! Ok i got the figures jumbled up somewhere but my God, what retails for $25 in the US should never sell for $15 in poor Gambia. It is unjustifiable. We are not talking about luxuries here but basic necessities. These two countries are miles apart in terms of personal earnings. The retail value of comodities should reflect the cost of bringing the products to the consumer not the extortion that is taking place in the Gambia. The cost of putting comodities on boutique shelves in the Gambia is just cents compared to the US. What is the cost of a six months lease rental for a downtown Harlem shop, Moe? C'mon lets talk senses and Gambian realities man.

You bought a can of drink for a little over $3 in Dakar? Mais yow danga conne. That is not even tourist price. A modou modou had just robbed you in broad daylight. And i bet they came crowding to you with even more wares after word got out that there is an easy prey in the crowd. What is wrong with you? To be a badola in Dakar is not a crime. It is being smart.

The Sheikh has no business being a farmer. The function of his office is to facilitate farmer with with agricultural implements, tools, machinery, credit, storage facilities etc. Atleast you friend aknowleges that there is money to be made in farming and so does every Gambian farmer. Give them the means to produce and sell their produce and we will have a lot of Bill Gates as farmers as well as attain food self-sufficiency. Not to rob their lands and then enslave them with forced labour. Stop the ngewelyaa Moe. You know damn well that every land The Sheikh grabs belonged to individuals and communities and they would be more than grateful to get them back to sustain themselve and their families. Jammeh Foundation my a*se. That foundation is funded by criminal outfits as sweetners to gain favours from The Sheikh. That much is obvious. The Sheikh does not put a dime or a peanut in that 'charity'. It is just a front for their propaganda. I will get back to you later. Digest this in the mean time:

http://www.irinnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=88914
quote:
Originally posted by Moe

Ok Shaka I totally disagree simply because a 20kg bag of rice in america is approximately $25 dollars after taxes ,Am pretty sure it's more expensive than it is in Gambia, What you are missing out on is the fact that all these products being imported into Gambia are subjected to importation and taxation ,not to mention storage at the various facilities including labour , shipping dock fees etc. This is prior to even reaching the vendors . Who are also subjected to licence fees storage and manpower . I think your calculations are a bit off , A simple shop at Kairaba avenue is about $1500 U.S dollars for a 6 month lease bro . I think you are confusing the realities on the ground and whats really happening .True there is a lot of foreigners and these are not broke foreigners ,this is the real problem in Gambia .U know what happens when a few individuals control wealth and mostly foreigners and a few Gambians.

It's the same thing in Senegal,I was there for the unveiling of the "African Rennaissance", The sky rocketing prices is normal through out Africa. A can of Coca Cola cost me 1500cfa whilst in the U.S a can of soda is about 50 cents. That's a very unfair assessment of the rising prices.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/04/senegal-african-renaissance-statue

I think you are being unfair with the Sheikh once again, The farming industry was as dead as gone. Jammeh revived it and Gambians from all walks of life are now venturing into Farming , A week prior to leaving a friend of mine who resides in London came into town, a day later he calls me up and tells me he is going to his farm in "Busuraba" I eenquired as to what a city boy knows about farming he laughed and said am the chicken man in town now, we started talking chicken and eggs+cost ,soon I came to the realization that I was speaking to the Gambian bill Gates if all goes well for him

I think the allegation of land grabbing is untrue and all these farms prior to being president Jammehs farms ,whether allocated or gifts from Gambian elders were Barren . The farms in the first place is bringing development to isolated towns and villages meanwhile providing jobs for the residents . I would totally disagree, It's all unfounded Shaka. The fact is proceeds fromthese farms go to the Jammeh foundation for peace ,C'mon now hate the man or love him ,he is one brilliant son of a gun.

There are plenty of organizations providing the same services the Sheikh has access to ,Trust me it's a whole different ball game , they have access to tractors and equipment and this includes access to loans and fertilizers. The other day a Gambian received grants of almost 1 million plus for his farms, so it is very untrue. Land for farming is available through out the country but the fact is children of farmer don't wanna farm any more and that has transformed the whole industry into little patches of subsistence farmers ,truth be told Jammeh gave agriculture a heartbeat and hope since it was already dead and gone.

You should know that the role of attaining food self sufficiency is not only up to the Government of the day , Just across Banjul in Barra the interstate system can take you basically to various parts of the country in a short period of time and this includes Kerewan ,Soma etc , It's approximately 3 hours on Pliable roads , The infrastructure has been laid Bro and the facilities and expertise is readily available and that is the truth and nothing but the truth.........................................................Peace
quote:
Originally posted by shaka

Ok Beadman, let's agree that i am not so currently aquainted with some comodities sold in the Gambian market. Would you agree with me that at D340 for a 20kg bag of rice that price is too extortionate for the average Gambian? Here is some facts for you: The world market price of rice is currently set at approximately $541 per metric tone. This means that the price of rice as sold in markets, supermarkets and shops around the world should be nothing more than 54 cents per kilo. The price of the 20kg Thai Jasmine should be selling for approximately D281. If the Gambia government reduced the stifling import duty on rice, the Thai Jasmine could sell for less than D250 for a 20kg bag. Isn't it evil that Gambians are buying this same rice for D340 for 20kg. Rice is more expensive in Gambia than Babylon, even though the average wage is about 50 times more than Gambia. And Babylon does not even produce rice except for 5 or 6 states in the US. This trend of stark price diference is reflected in a wide range of various comodities in the Gambian market including the most basic. So you cannot claim development when the people are facing starvation. And the Sheikh is no bloody farmer either, but a ruthless land grabber and thief playing with human lives. If he wants food self-sufficiency in the Gambia, he aught to give back the land to the people and concentrate his effort on making sure that farmers enjoy the same facilitate(agricultural implements, machinery and equipments as well as expertise and good storge facilities) as Kanilai farm and his numerous other farms dotted across the country. Until then he remains a ranting clueless farmer.



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shaka



996 Posts

Posted - 25 Apr 2010 :  15:08:10  Show Profile Send shaka a Private Message
Thanks Kaani. Moe just likes to talk. Everybody Mbye spat in his mouth at the State House grounds last month. What a griot!! Nyaka fulla!!
quote:
Originally posted by kaanibaa

Shaka you sound to me as a very good economists and your calculations and comparisons make a lot of sense to me.I wonder why Moe keeps trying to whitewash issues here for us after all; the suffering our people face in trying to survive these economic imbalances are stark realities which cannot be sugar-coated by his apologies . I simply do not miss you Moe ,why not go back to where ever you were hiding and leave us alone. Rest assured that we shall challenge your falsehood every step of the way and the sooner you get that right the better for your tiny brain. I also thought you have grown mature, but it is still clear that you still have your head stuck in the Kaninglie sands , you cannot make us follow you down that alley, keep it for yourself ah ah now.I am sure you will follow this with an insult as usual which as usual is welcome for me.Bring it on then bruver!

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bread man



300 Posts

Posted - 25 Apr 2010 :  15:26:19  Show Profile Send bread man a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by shaka

Ok Beadman, let's agree that i am not so currently aquainted with some comodities sold in the Gambian market. Would you agree with me that at D340 for a 20kg bag of rice that price is too extortionate for the average Gambian? Here is some facts for you: The world market price of rice is currently set at approximately $541 per metric tone. This means that the price of rice as sold in markets, supermarkets and shops around the world should be nothing more than 54 cents per kilo. The price of the 20kg Thai Jasmine should be selling for approximately D281. If the Gambia government reduced the stifling import duty on rice, the Thai Jasmine could sell for less than D250 for a 20kg bag. Isn't it evil that Gambians are buying this same rice for D340 for 20kg. Rice is more expensive in Gambia than Babylon, even though the average wage is about 50 times more than Gambia. And Babylon does not even produce rice except for 5 or 6 states in the US. This trend of stark price diference is reflected in a wide range of various comodities in the Gambian market including the most basic. So you cannot claim development when the people are facing starvation. And the Sheikh is no bloody farmer either, but a ruthless land grabber and thief playing with human lives. If he wants food self-sufficiency in the Gambia, he aught to give back the land to the people and concentrate his effort on making sure that farmers enjoy the same facilitate(agricultural implements, machinery and equipments as well as expertise and good storge facilities) as Kanilai farm and his numerous other farms dotted across the country. Until then he remains a ranting clueless farmer.

Here you go again with your wrong assesment of the subject. But lets be a little objective here, you see in comparison to where in Babilon i live the Gambian Thai rice is 400% cheaper. Because here the 5kg thai rice cost equivallent to 365dalasi. Now you seems to be a good economist as stated earlier, so do the math and see for your self that the Proffessor is trying. You see centuries of colonial destruction and decades of curruption by the first independent govt can´t be fixed in 16yrs. But be rest assured that Jammeh will clean the residue of all that and make us proud to be Gambians.

It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it.

Edited by - bread man on 25 Apr 2010 15:28:07
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Moe



USA
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Posted - 25 Apr 2010 :  20:26:09  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
My plan is to make you jumble up a lot of numbers and in all eventuality I will succeed. A shop in Harlem is about $1200 - $2500 a month, I personally feel that the retail value of commodities should reflect the cost of importation of products and in the case of Gambia ,It somewhat reflects it Bro. lets get back to some more analysis here . The price of a lets say Nike Air Max in America is about $100- $159 for a decent pair , The direct labour cost to produce the shoe is at $3.50. Nike factories now a days have been closed down in America and all the jobs have been outsourced to developing countries. Don't get me wrong several factors led to the outsourcing but my point is after the cost of advertising,importation, distribution etc which it will be subjected to , A pair basically ends up retailing at a very unfair price ,Don't you agree?.

Going back to the price of rice and commodities ,I can assure you that you are not being fair with you analysis. Any product imported into Gambia lets say you paid $1000 dollars for and shipped it to Gambia , By the time you would have received it at the ports and paid all customs and exercise fees, including shipping ,The price automatically doubles ,It's no longer worth $1000, much rather $2000 , this is prior to reaching the vendors ,excluding how much profit the distributor expects from it for the venture to be profitable. From the distributor the retailer gets it for lets say $2200 dollars and adds his stocking fees and storage etc ,it's worth a little over $2500 at this point I would like to assume unless ,it's a charity organization , I hope Kanibaa can re evalute his reality and whats real. I don't like or miss you either ,Thats one thing we share in common Kaaniba, the feeling is mutual, You can only discredit an opponent ,I think I am your "Sefla" and thats no Joke. I am not here to white wash anything ,by the way thats some cheap paint , I got oil paint this time around that can't be stained, access to information is a bytch ain't it. I got the best paint in town and it's not for sale Kaaniba.

I think you are mistaken once again Shaka,The government is playing it's role in the agricultural sector:http://www.statehouse.gm/agriculture/achievements.html, you know exactly what the role of any government should be in the agricultural sector therfore Gambia knowing the realities faced by farmers have even introduced unconventional methods of supporting farmers.

The soda pop I bought in Senegal was at a restaurant ,The chawarma was $1500 cfa and so was the soda. I was a Modou Modou too ,thats how I roll. I love the life of a Badola, pretty simple might wanna say.........................................Peace
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Originally posted by shaka

Bullsh*t!! Bullsh*t!! Ok i got the figures jumbled up somewhere but my God, what retails for $25 in the US should never sell for $15 in poor Gambia. It is unjustifiable. We are not talking about luxuries here but basic necessities. These two countries are miles apart in terms of personal earnings. The retail value of comodities should reflect the cost of bringing the products to the consumer not the extortion that is taking place in the Gambia. The cost of putting comodities on boutique shelves in the Gambia is just cents compared to the US. What is the cost of a six months lease rental for a downtown Harlem shop, Moe? C'mon lets talk senses and Gambian realities man....

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....

Edited by - Moe on 25 Apr 2010 20:27:20
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Posted - 25 Apr 2010 :  20:34:17  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
You Know I don't Like Everybody Mbye " Sawaye Dull Rekk" , I was baptized by father christmas" Santa clause"........................................peace
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Thanks Kaani. Moe just likes to talk. Everybody Mbye spat in his mouth at the State House grounds last month. What a griot!! Nyaka fulla!!
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....
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