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turk
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 Posted - 07 Aug 2009 : 12:43:45
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I have another idea. Why not 'diaspora' pays the fine and get some of the journalists go free.
p.s. see my signature below.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 07 Aug 2009 : 12:49:04
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Sounds like a great idea, Turk. But I have told Dbaldeh that I wanted him to go first, and then I will follow. My baggage is really large, I am not sure how to carry it with me lol...
So Kayjatta, how does it feel, you are calling Gambians in Gambia to sacrifice/suffer while you fight with the regime while enjoying your attaya and giving 'political advise'. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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kobo
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kayjatta
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Posted - 07 Aug 2009 : 13:15:15
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Originally posted by kobo
Am surprised to read from The Point editorial that they were found "GUILTY ON ALL SIX COUNTS"? Read The Point Newspaper STOP PRESS: Six Gambian Journalists Jailed under http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/article/stop-press-six-gambian-journalists-jailed
Count 1 - 2 year prison term.
Count 2 - A fine of D250,000 (US$10,000) or a two year prison term
Count 3 - A fine of D250,000 (US$10,000) or a two year prison term
Count 4 - 2 year prison term
Count 5 - 2 year prison term
Count 6 - 2 year prison term.
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shaka
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Posted - 07 Aug 2009 : 13:36:29
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| I salute the brave journalists for their steadfast stance against tyranny even when the end result means spending time in jail. This is exactly what the nation had long been crying for. Men and women ready to sacrifice their lives and freedom in the face of tyranny to liberate the nation from a mad dictator and his associates. Here is yet another opportunity for the Bar Association, civil society and politicians to step up the fight against a mad tyrant to yield relief to the long suffering people of the Gambia. An opportunity to demand and claim our right to civil disobeidience to protest against injustice. Any legal person who henceforth grace the presiding of Judges Fangbenle and Wowo in any Gambian court should be deemed a traitor. Any politician who shy away from their responsibility to speak out against injustice like the brave GPU leaderoship is not fit to lead our people. The threats to a nation can come bigger than the Jammeh tyranny. Therefore a political leader who lacks the courage to stand up to Jammeh is not fit for purpose. There is no surprises in Judge Fangbenle sending the brave journalists to court. The only surprises will perhaps be how the opposition leadership, the Gambia Bar Association and civil society react to yet another injustice. I pray for the health, courage and perseverance of the noble and courageous six especially Pap Saine and Sarata Jabbi. |
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Aug 2009 : 17:38:57
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Originally posted by Momodou
This is very unfair to the Gambian Democracy and should be condemned in the strongest of terms. The case should definitely be appealed. This kind of judgment can only be carried by mercenary judges.
Momodou, do you have the full judgement in hand? I was going through the prosecution case but it doesn't look to me that they have a case. So this verdict came to me as a big gobsmack. Is that because I missed something that the judge actually spotted on? Well I hope I will have an answer to that in the judgement. Until then, I am reserving condemnation. Having said that, I must add that this is a very worrying development and every patriotic Gambian should be utterly concern about it.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Thanks
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Momodou
Denmark
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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janjabureh
Gambia
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Posted - 07 Aug 2009 : 23:54:11
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Excerpt from Foroyaa Newspaper:
He read the verdict as thus; “On count one, I sentence the convicted persons to 2 years imprisonment without a fine, count two, I fine them D250, 000 in default to serve 2 years imprisonment. Count three; I fine them D250 000 in default to serve 2 years imprisonment. Count four; I sentence them to 2 years without a fine. Count five, I sentence them to 2 years without any option of a fine and on count six, I sentence them to 2 years imprisonment without an option of a fine. All the sentences to run concurrently,” Justice Fagbenle ruled. This means that the Journalists are to serve 2 years and pay a fine of 500,000 dalasi each for two counts or remaining prison for an extra 4 years.
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Dalton1
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Posted - 08 Aug 2009 : 00:17:46
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Dear compatriots,
Thank you all for the sound off. I really needed this to relief my pain. We need all the pens that are sharp; the hearts that are sincere; and the warriors that are steady. It makes a whole difference to the hypocritical blood sucking vampires and dictator breeds at home and abroad who declared war on us. They declare war on us, we therefore will declare war on them. There is no retreat, no surrender! If they are not honest and nice to you, do not use kind words to them. They deserve the lash and the whoop, because if they should over-power you in any way, they will hold tight. Should they want to foolishly distract you, please ignore them. Ignorance is the best answer to an *****. The blood-sucking monsters will not give up...and for a personal note, most of them are either prostitutes, drug-addicts or both. They have hearts that are hardened; minds that are dirty and instincts that are mean. As far as I am concerned, I am beyond fear of any human. Let yaya jammeh and all his monstrous killers all rot in hell! We need to resist their terror fully, and we will! Their hypocrisy knows no bounds...such that they will do anything and everything to deal with innocent people. Those that doubted about them...I think some of us who've been very vocal against them are vindicated. Their wrongs are intentional and rooted in them...and don't ever get your weak to think that they will let go on you, apologize for their wrongs or acknowledge/recognize the crimes being commited..or yet still condemn any of the wrongs being committed..so spitetheir hearts are! They are like awakened hungy hyenas desparately searching for their preys. The limits of respect and niceness should be only accorded to those that are respectful...if they -the vampires... are looking for your blood....or some one to chop raw! heh...not me!! If they cannot see any thing wrong, isn't it enough to tell any sane person that they are damn hypocrites and blood-sucking monsters...just this is the simpler way to express it.
http://www.gainako.com/news/news/2009/08/06/details-of-justice-fagbenles-sentence-on-gpu-six-on-all-counts.html
To hell with Yaya jammeh and his accomplices!!
To hell with mercenary judges!!
To hell with hypocrites!
To hell with those in self-denial of the truth!!
Rot in hell!
Rot in hell!!
Skulls, blood and bones of your victims will haunt you.
The war has just began...and we will fight with all our enegy, our brains, our resources, our families, etc...whatever! We are going to defeat the demonic dominion...and shame on demons & spiteful hearts!!
get your pens all sharpened...and let them read hell every day, and expose their inhumane nature.
Dalton
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Kuno
Malawi
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Posted - 08 Aug 2009 : 18:57:04
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Hello Guys,
I must say that I write this with a conflicted mind. I have been very critical of Gambian journalists on this beautiful forum...I have done so without malice...it is just for my love for the Smiling Coast and her beautiful people. These press convictions have left me jaded....some remorse has been eating my inner soul in the last few days....I have always known never to conflate Yaya Jammeh's crimes against the press with the Gambian press' own professional transgressions. The two are different....with these terrible verdicts and fines, it is making me wish I had not been critical of the Gambian "journalists". My heart goes to the imprisoned ones and their respective families. In the name of press freedom, I, you and we all Live!
Kuno, The Bird
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Aug 2009 : 20:45:32
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Kuno,
You have shown high level maturity and purely sincere. You are surely not guilty. If anything, you deserve great respect for stepping ahead.
In one of your earlier posts, you expressed serious concern about where Gambia is heading. This present situation manifests how bad Jammeh is leading Gambia and Gambians to abysmal doom sooner or later. |
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Moe
USA
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Posted - 11 Aug 2009 : 08:21:21
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The sad thing is Baghdad Bob,due to the limited education you have history has not served you right. Ignorance is no excuse for your terrorist tendencies. Let me try to get something in your Gainako Head , This is not the Foni's and reassured we are here and ready to enlighten the weak.
Ambassador wells and company can go "siddom for dirty" Yahya Jammeh was not the first person to have sedition laws in his counry . I keep telling ya'll that am really fed up of this intellectual prostitution and when i say that i ain't refering to some of you fools ,the half baked editors or nutty professor's.
In the history of the united states alone there have been two famous federal sedition acts. The first was enacted in 1798, and check this out it was actually written to restrict the speeches of Thomas Jefferson's supporters who relied on the heated rhetoric of newspaper publishers and pamphleteers, those were the old days ,nowadays in the case of Gambia we are having to deal with a conglomorate of unprofessional journalist and pathological liars hell bent on overthrowing the regime .
The insults and names casted on Jammeh is nothing new in political history . But just remember John adam's epithets had additional titles to it such as "old querulous, bald,blind, crippled and toothless. Due to the fact that this was a time when people did not have access to information quite like us presently the criticisms actually hurt Adams politically. So it was imperative for the Sedition Act of 1798 naturally to include a clause criminalizing speech that held the President in disrepute and speeches that advice or attempt to procure any insurrection, riot, unlawful assembly, or combination, as well as speech that might aid, encourage or abet any hostile designs of any foreign nation against the United States, their people or government. Tell me these circumstances are not similar to present day Gambia . This is exactly what the problem is and at least in America everything is done with caution and with a level of maturity nowadays.The state laws themselves protect the rights of the people therefore it was deemed unnecessary unlike Gambia with a paralized justice system.,
Jefferson beat Adams so handily in 1800 that Adams' Federalist Party never won the White House again, and soon vanished from national politics entirely. The Act finally expired in 1801, Seems like a long time ago Huh , yeah but just remember in terms of justice and political maturity we are still a 100 years behind the America's , No matter how hard we try. You can sit and tell me sedition laws are a way of muzzling the press and outdated in any modern democracy yet i will tell you it's all dependent on how much the factors undermine the state especially when you are dealing with unpatriotic sell out's who are willing to sell their country to the lowest bidder as long as they bid.
Let me re-emphasize what the sedition acts in America did ,it totally restricted freedom of speech and the press by making it a crime to criticize the government.secondly the government claimed the law was needed to quell support for the French, and keep the United States out of war even though it was widely believed that the law was actually used to silence Republican critics of the Adams administration and the Federalists.
Opposition to government through speech alone has been subject to punishment throughout much of history under laws proscribing “seditious” utterances. New Zealand has similar laws not to mention the Ubited states and their daily amendments to fit their purposes such as the terrorism bill. In this very country the Sedition Act of 1798 made criminal, inter alia, malicious writings which defamed, brought into contempt or excited the hatred of the people against the Government, the President, or the Congress, or which stirred people to sedition
If the America's can enact laws when necessary what the fc k makes you think just because we are dumb Africans we still have to live up to the dictates of the west. The problem is i don't think the Gambian Ambassador or the Nigerian Ambassador were present during the trials of purported terrorist at guantanamo bay under the anti terrorism bill bill..............................................Peacequote:
Originally posted by Dalton1
Dear compatriots,
Thank you all for the sound off. I really needed this to relief my pain. We need all the pens that are sharp; the hearts that are sincere; and the warriors that are steady. It makes a whole difference to the hypocritical blood sucking vampires and dictator breeds at home and abroad who declared war on us. They declare war on us, we therefore will declare war on them. There is no retreat, no surrender! If they are not honest and nice to you, do not use kind words to them. They deserve the lash and the whoop, because if they should over-power you in any way, they will hold tight. Should they want to foolishly distract you, please ignore them. Ignorance is the best answer to an *****. The blood-sucking monsters will not give up...and for a personal note, most of them are either prostitutes, drug-addicts or both. They have hearts that are hardened; minds that are dirty and instincts that are mean. As far as I am concerned, I am beyond fear of any human. Let yaya jammeh and all his monstrous killers all rot in hell! We need to resist their terror fully, and we will! Their hypocrisy knows no bounds...such that they will do anything and everything to deal with innocent people. Those that doubted about them...I think some of us who've been very vocal against them are vindicated. Their wrongs are intentional and rooted in them...and don't ever get your weak to think that they will let go on you, apologize for their wrongs or acknowledge/recognize the crimes being commited..or yet still condemn any of the wrongs being committed..so spitetheir hearts are! They are like awakened hungy hyenas desparately searching for their preys. The limits of respect and niceness should be only accorded to those that are respectful...if they -the vampires... are looking for your blood....or some one to chop raw! heh...not me!! If they cannot see any thing wrong, isn't it enough to tell any sane person that they are damn hypocrites and blood-sucking monsters...just this is the simpler way to express it.
http://www.gainako.com/news/news/2009/08/06/details-of-justice-fagbenles-sentence-on-gpu-six-on-all-counts.html
To hell with Yaya jammeh and his accomplices!!
To hell with mercenary judges!!
To hell with hypocrites!
To hell with those in self-denial of the truth!!
Rot in hell!
Rot in hell!!
Skulls, blood and bones of your victims will haunt you.
The war has just began...and we will fight with all our enegy, our brains, our resources, our families, etc...whatever! We are going to defeat the demonic dominion...and shame on demons & spiteful hearts!!
get your pens all sharpened...and let them read hell every day, and expose their inhumane nature.
Dalton
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
Edited by - Moe on 11 Aug 2009 09:40:31 |
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Moe
USA
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Posted - 11 Aug 2009 : 08:45:31
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They are totally by themselves now Monsieur Derrier ,thanks for the concern ,wheni get a gig after applying with the government i will personally let you know , I don't see the cyber Almoudous with their collection plates asking for donations yet so i feel this is a good start. The Journalist were Punished by laws we enacted and there is obviously evidence to convict them ,maybe some one needs to go get the laws re-appealed ,possibly you and your gang of key board junkies , This may be an unfair law to a certain extent yet it is a law that was signed off on by representatives of the people , what ya'll gonna do now ,same strategy i guess ,blame Jammeh,you people are a joke i swear..............................................................Peacequote:
Originally posted by Kitabul Arerr
Brutally! Brutally! Brutally!
Crucially! Crucially! Crucially!
I say it's Brutally! Brutally! Brutally!
Yes, and it's Crucially! Crucially! Crucially!
Hold your heads high, Journalists. You're not alone!
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
Edited by - Moe on 11 Aug 2009 09:56:52 |
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