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anna
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 Posted - 05 Jun 2009 : 06:38:37
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In 'homosexuality' the 'homo'part is derived from the Greek 'homos', meaning same, so homosexuality = samesexuality!!!
In this case 'homo' does NOT refer to human beings :-(
You know what, i rest my case too! Did someone ever tell you that you're hardheaded??? Mansasula, if you don't want to know, you don't want to know................ |
When an old African dies, it is as if a whole library has burnt down.
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Moe
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kayjatta
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Posted - 05 Jun 2009 : 08:01:46
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Mansasulu, I am afraid Anna is right. The "homo" in homosexual is the same as that in homogenous or homologous. It means "the same". “Homo” as in Homo sapiens, Homo Erectus, Homo Habilis, is Latin meaning “man”.
So Homo sapiens means “man the intelligent” or “the intelligent man), whereas Homosexual means “same sex”. The Greek and the Latin versions have different meanings and usage in English language (crazy English isn’t it?).
The reason I rested (my case) is that you refused to answer my questions and thereby brought the debate to a deadlock.
The authoritative anthropologist Helen Fisher who studied and lectured human sexual attraction for over 30 years has written extensively about homosexual behavior in lower animals including our close relatives chimps, baboons, and gorillas (see Dr. Fisher's book "The Anatomy of Love").
Moe is right that research is revealing mounting evidence about the biological root of homosexuality. However, it is not all biology. It is a mix of biology and psychology. Humans, psychologists long argued have no true instincts. We are not completely at the mercy of biological or genetic determinism. Humans are as much a product of their environment as they are their genes.
There are still many questions unanswered about homosexuality. It is a huge contradiction, but life perhaps is all contradictions. That is why evolution makes more sense to me, otherwise we might hold God responsible for all of life's contradictions and atrocities (ooops sorry Kobo) 
Surely we do not know all the answers, but we can surely exercise tolerance and compassion towards those who may be different from us ...
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anna
Netherlands
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Posted - 05 Jun 2009 : 12:16:12
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Kay, why would anyone have to be 'afraid that i am right' 
In Dutch we would say 'nou breekt mijn klomp' = i am so baffled by this that it makes my wooden shoe break in half  .
I am afraid that there is no conclusive answer to the question of 'nature or nurture', there are many plausible theories. I think i mentioned the theory of 'wanting to find a partner of the sex of the least available parent' before, to me that sounds logical up to a point. But really, noone is a homosexual by choice. Of course there might be pretenders who like 'to try it for a change' but these attempts will soon fail for obvious reasons.
Moe, thanks for contributing something 'normal' (also for a change) and that to a subject that is seen by some Bantaba members as being 'abnormal'  . |
When an old African dies, it is as if a whole library has burnt down.
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kayjatta
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Posted - 05 Jun 2009 : 12:54:20
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| Anna its the crazy English again . I am afraid (that mansasulu will feel otherwise) but I will have to say that Anna is right. How about that |
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anna
Netherlands
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Posted - 05 Jun 2009 : 13:19:18
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I am fine with it! Wooden shoe back to normal and i am going to buy myself a big bunch of tulips  |
When an old African dies, it is as if a whole library has burnt down.
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kayjatta
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Posted - 05 Jun 2009 : 13:27:48
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| Hey sounds good Anna |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Jun 2009 : 13:55:25
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Its definitely abnormal and there is no research or facts that can make it normal! Humankind became homo sapiens & intelligent to understand that they are different from animals! We knew that we cannot condone barbaric acts, rape & crime; which appears to be a different kind of life in animal kingdom? What is the justification or rational to make gay looks normal because they need sex and should have it the way they want it; in simple terms? Why should we be tolerant to for anyone to have freewill to do as whatever you want to do and not tame them if they are doing abnormal activities, whether private or public?
It is absurd to hear propaganda about "Man to man or woman to woman as sex partners" for it is abnormal? None would have been here if there are no cross-sexual partnership to even think about it? It is not about pretending because they (Gay) try to simulate normal sex with our normal male organ ("P!") and female organ ("V!"). Gays normally use lots of weid tools & vibrators which is abnormal naturally. When something is wrong somewhere it is abnormal? What is normal & sustainable is multiplying the human race! What is normal is husband & wife, man & woman & positive & negative for energy! Energy is the source of light!
Another funny thing is that I don't understand being a heter and promoting or defending gay on what grounds? "No rape! No gay!" for we are not animals? "No sex with animals! No Gay!" "No dignity ! Yes Gay!" My argument is not in refrence to any religious doctrines but something sensible! Hope my point is clear?
Any inconvenience deeply regreted
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anna
Netherlands
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Posted - 05 Jun 2009 : 14:14:51
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'P', 'V' , what are you ranting on about.......
Kobo, i am not making any propaganda for homosexuality - i am certainly not homosexual myself and 'husband and wife' is my life too. But some people are gay, and they are so not by choice. They have a right to be happy like you and me and noone has the right to deal with their dead bodies disrespectfully (which was what this thread is all about, remember?).
Who is talking about barbarians, rapists and criminals?? You will find them in any society, homo or heterosexual, Gambian or Dutch etc. 
Are you sure you regret any inconvenience deeply? 'Tame them'  ? You are talking about human beings, not animals. Would you like to be 'tamed' yourself?
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When an old African dies, it is as if a whole library has burnt down.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 05 Jun 2009 : 14:25:26
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quote:
Originally posted by kayjatta
Anna its the crazy English again . I am afraid (that mansasulu will feel otherwise) but I will have to say that Anna is right. How about that
Anna is VERY rarely wrong |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Jun 2009 : 19:07:01
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Originally posted by anna
'P', 'V' , what are you ranting on about.......
Kobo, i am not making any propaganda for homosexuality - i am certainly not homosexual myself and 'husband and wife' is my life too. But some people are gay, and they are so not by choice. They have a right to be happy like you and me and noone has the right to deal with their dead bodies disrespectfully (which was what this thread is all about, remember?).
Who is talking about barbarians, rapists and criminals?? You will find them in any society, homo or heterosexual, Gambian or Dutch etc.
Are you sure you regret any inconvenience deeply? 'Tame them' ? You are talking about human beings, not animals. Would you like to be 'tamed' yourself?
What do you mean that "none has the right to deal with their dead bodies disrecpecfully!"? I did not refer to judgement day or anything on religion!
If we don't discourage one of these abnormal behaviours of human beings then gay, pornography, wild or weid sex life is here to stay. What partnership exist between gay/lesbian? Are they mates or husband &wife, husband & husband, wife & wife or buddies to each other? Lesbians enjoy more with artifial male organ ("P" vibrator) so whats the justification avoiding or rejecting the normal/natural one? Gay for man is filty & unhealthy to describe them climbing on top of each other like natural habits of monkeys! There is the saying that "Monkeys will never leave climbing!". Hope you understand what I mean?
Yes they are not animals but healthy human beings but with bad mentality to disgrace human beings! They shall never make babies naturally and they cause set-back & lost of dignity to human race! Do you want fast-tracking of extinction of the human race |
Edited by - kobo on 06 Jun 2009 02:02:05 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Jun 2009 : 19:41:39
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These academic/intellectual studies & analysis are inconclusive because its not only biology and phsycology that matters to understand nature and human existence? Its not God that is responsible for "life's contradictions and atrocities"(like what?); but because of mankind's limited knowledge to play God! "God The Almighty & Master of universe is only one and only God that exist!"
You said that evolution makes more sense to you but what about acquiring knowledge in artistry of God! Am recommending you read or research properly from intellectuals who studied the quran to broaden your knowledge & horizon!
Kayjatta please can you please forward what evolution explains on reproductive cycle ("making babies"), life & death?
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Prince
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Posted - 05 Jun 2009 : 23:17:19
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Why do they keep on releasing these people into our communities ?? |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 : 01:37:40
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I didn't get your point clear! What do you mean? Whom ("these people") are you refering to and which communities |
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mansasulu
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Posted - 07 Jun 2009 : 04:12:04
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| Kay I am not surprise you said Anna is right...wow! Afterall, she has been doing a little bit of speaking and thinking for you. Any how back to the point. you cannot legitimize homosexuality base on some flimsy evidence. The people of Thies said no and that is the end of the story. If you are still disturbed by that I guess you can jump over the cliff! |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
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