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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 23 May 2009 : 19:36:39
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No not you! The language. I am just jealous because I can't understand it!
I love your aviator..brings back happy memories from Kolior!
Do you scare children?! |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 May 2009 : 19:56:39
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Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
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mansasulu
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Posted - 26 May 2009 : 15:59:56
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I believe every community is well within its rights to determine who gets buried in their graves. If a person does not subscribe to the acceptable norms of a society then they should not expect to be accorded rights that come with holding true to a societies accepted values.
I dont know about y'all, but I don't wanna be buried in the same burial grounds with a known homosexual let alone next to one. |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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anna
Netherlands
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Posted - 27 May 2009 : 22:05:12
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Mansasula, noone reacted to your posting (perhaps 'y'all' were speechless) and even i know it is useless. I have been staring at your words for a day and a half now.
Maybe you'd feel better being buried next to a wifebeater or a no good father, who managed to keep up appearances?
How about cremation, then you won't have to worry about who is occupying the next grave........
Why did you post this link in the first place? Is it because you agree to people 'dumping a son's dead body in his parents' backyard'?? I truly hope your dead body will be treated more respectfully when the time comes. Or your children's dead bodies, or your children's children's dead bodies.
Shameful......... |
When an old African dies, it is as if a whole library has burnt down.
Amadou Hampate Ba (Mali) |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 28 May 2009 : 06:26:18
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| maybe it is time to have beside seperated christian, muslim, hindu, we need to have 'secular cemetary'. if someone is homosexual why burry him or her in islamic cemetary? We don't have christian, hindu in islamic cemetary. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 28 May 2009 : 09:29:18
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Mansasulu what is your reason? Wouldn't you associate with one in the form of like a friend, a co-worker, a classmate, etc?
Turk homosexuality is not a form of religion like Christinaity, Islam or Hinduism. It is 'behavioral' orientation. The litmus test for determining a fitting Islmic burial for the dead is whether he is a practicing Muslim (prays-observes salaat) or not. The decision is not based on our behavioral or genetic shortcomings and indiscretions ... |
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mansasulu
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Posted - 28 May 2009 : 15:04:08
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Kay, homosexuality is one of the most abominable sins in islam. The Quran talk in vivid detail as to the what happened to the people of Lut in Sadoum when they insisted on perpetuating this grave sin. That alone is enough reason for me. And no I would not associate with a homosexual in any form of association I have control over. I don't have any known homosexual friends, co-workers, or classmates in the past that I know of and I dont want any.
Anna, please calm down!! Why are you getting bent out of shape. I am entitle to my point of view. It appears you are once again taking particular offense to my views which is not something new. I didn't say anything inflammatory towards any particular and specific person. I am also shocked you took issue with me posting this link on bantaba. It was posted on the BBC. I did not make this stuff up.
God forbid, but if my children or any person close to me for that matter, chooses to become homosexual, I dont wanna be buried next to them either. |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 28 May 2009 : 19:06:13
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Kay
of course it is not a religion. however, if someone is homosexual, he or she should not want to be buried in Islamic cemetary anyway. I mean why would an ateist to be buried in Christian one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Burial is part of religious ritual. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 28 May 2009 : 20:13:52
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ARGGH!!!!!!!!!!!
Sometimes people on here drive me CRAZY!!!
Being homosexual ISNOT A CHOICE! It is a genetic preposition. The choice is whether to act on it or not. Whether to 'come out' or not. It is not an easy path.
Being buried should not be the perogative of the religious! I want to be buried. I'm not religious. I want to be buried, because it is environmentally friendly. I also want my family to have a place to come to remember me. Perhaps a woodland burial or similar?
Some of the people who have posted anti homosexual things on here are the most UNRELIGIOUS people I have ever heard speak.
Shouldnt we be understanding of others weaknesses?
Shouldnt we be compassionate to others suffering?
Shouldn't we be tolerant of others differences?
Sometimes I de spair! |
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anna
Netherlands
730 Posts |
Posted - 28 May 2009 : 21:48:43
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Mansasula, nothing personal I assure you!
But i really think that saying that you do not want 'to be buried in the same burial grounds with a known homosexual' is inflammatory enough, to tell you the truth.
I know you did not make this story up, but with posting the link you want to tell us something, right? What is it that you want to tell us? Is it: see how this abomination of a man got what he deserved, even after death? Or is it: do y'all also think, like me - Mansasula - that this a disgraceful, disrespectful and sick way of dealing with a dead body?
There might be all kinds of views on human life (and death) where we can see eye to eye - why not. But when it comes to homosexuality we take totally different stands. Naturally everyone of us is entitled to their views but again and again it turns out there is something that you fail to understand: a person is not a homosexual by choice!! None of your children can or will 'choose' to be a homosexual, and if one of them 'is' they will probably keep it from you, knowing you will not want to have anything to do with this child anymore - you wouldn't even want to buried next to it.
Mansasula, you have to believe that i am sincere: i cannot understand this at all, ever.......... |
When an old African dies, it is as if a whole library has burnt down.
Amadou Hampate Ba (Mali) |
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mansasulu
997 Posts |
Posted - 28 May 2009 : 22:27:54
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I think there is a fundamental difference in how we perceive homosexuality. I believe people become homosexuals/sodomites by choice. I do not buy into all the genetic predisposition argument and crap that comes along with it. Trust me, if I believe that people dont become homosexuals by choice we wont be having this discussion.
I believe the people in Senegal are within their rights to determine who gets buried in their graves. I wont be surprised if the family of the homosexual who was disinterred were advised not to use the burial grounds. |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 28 May 2009 : 22:33:48
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anna
Netherlands
730 Posts |
Posted - 28 May 2009 : 22:37:55
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Yes, let's agree to that: we have fundamentally different perceptions of homosexuality. And we both think we are right. But there you go: everytime you come up with your view on this aspect of human life, i will object loudly! And you will keep tellng me that you are not going to buy the 'crap'.
Let's move on!
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When an old African dies, it is as if a whole library has burnt down.
Amadou Hampate Ba (Mali) |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 28 May 2009 : 22:40:33
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If we think about homosexuality logical why would anyone choose it?
You risk being turned out by your parents.
You risk having no family.
You risk everything. |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 29 May 2009 : 07:12:56
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quote:
Originally posted by turk
Kay
of course it is not a religion. however, if someone is homosexual, he or she should not want to be buried in Islamic cemetary anyway. I mean why would an ateist to be buried in Christian one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Burial is part of religious ritual.
Turk what's the matter with your thinking?
Atheists do not compare with homosexuals, because while atheists denounce religion, homosexuals are often devout Muslims and Christians. Sometimes they are even mosque and church leaders. So how can you justify denying them a religious burial because of a behavioral issue they are struggling with? |
Edited by - kayjatta on 29 May 2009 07:15:29 |
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