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mansasulu
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 Posted - 08 May 2008 : 19:57:18
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| Tamsier may I ask what religion you follow? |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
558 Posts |
Posted - 09 May 2008 : 10:33:42
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| Madiba and Mansasulu, I've always believe that religion is a private affair between some one and their God/Gods/Godesses. I dont believe in flaunting your religion or imposing it to others. Besides, my religion or lack of it has no bearing on these discussions and therefore, no body's businesses but mine. |
Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 09 May 2008 : 12:24:38
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Nice debate guys. I find Tamsier particularly informative and interesting, while Mansasulu appears to be gripped with Eastern (Arab) cultural imperialism.
I, for one is very skeptical of all kinds of faith. I think mankind should focus more on what is materially observable , verifiable, and practical.
Mankind's true salvation lies in science, I think... |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 May 2008 : 12:34:52
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Tamsier, it may not be my business to know whether you are religious or irreligious. However, it is very relevant to this thread. It is important to know the debater's background to further see where he's coming from.
I merely asked. The bottomline is i am taught in my religion that there is no complusion. Everyone to his religion. I am therefore not trying to convince or impose my religion to you or anybodyelse. The truth is that, the expansion of Islam cannot be negated by anyone. |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
558 Posts |
Posted - 09 May 2008 : 13:50:56
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Madiba, it is irrelevant because you do not have to belong to a particular religion to have an opinion on it. As long as you researched your subject well, I see why on earth you shouldn't express an opinion. Besides, dont turn this topic into 'me against islam'. We were talking about all religions non indiginous to Africa. Islam is just one of these religions.
You asked and I am telling you it is none of your business. |
Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
Edited by - tamsier on 09 May 2008 13:56:03 |
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mansasulu
997 Posts |
Posted - 09 May 2008 : 14:26:38
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| Tamsier, perhaps you will understand why I find your comments about following the indegenious african religions hypocritical. I can bet you are not following them and yet still you advocate for otheres to follow it. I asked that question knowing fully well that you will not answer it unless you were true to your words. |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
558 Posts |
Posted - 09 May 2008 : 15:03:19
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| Mansasulu, you do not know which religion or lack of it i follow or do not follow, so how dear you call me a hypocrite. If I am correct, I think you are trying nosy around, so that i can reveal my religion. Why are you so interested? Whatever the reason, I refer you to the posting I made previous to this. This discussion is not about the religion i follow. Further, I have never advocated that someone should follow a particular religion, because that is none of my business? If I ever did that and they tell me mind your own business, i will say to them 'good on you'. |
Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
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mansasulu
997 Posts |
Posted - 09 May 2008 : 18:10:23
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I think it is important we have a very open dialogue rather than masking our beliefs. Only when we are open about issue can we truely understand where we all come from. To echo Madiba, I think what you believe in or dont believe in is relevant.
For example we know that Kayjatta believes in Science so we can truely understand some of 'reasonings' or lack thereof. |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
558 Posts |
Posted - 09 May 2008 : 18:20:34
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mansasulu
'To echo Madiba, I think what you believe in or dont believe in is irrelevant' Thank you for finally understanding this. This is exactly what i have been saying. |
Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
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mansasulu
997 Posts |
Posted - 09 May 2008 : 21:47:59
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Originally posted by mansasulu
To echo Madiba, I think what you believe in or dont believe in is relevant.
Tamsier,
Perhaps you should re read what I wrote. No where did I say "irrelevant". I said what you believe in/dont believe in is relevant.. |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 09 May 2008 : 23:59:10
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Tamsier,
You have to do more research then. And pls start by finding out who is Tamsier. That should be ur point of departure. This a brotherly advice lest yoou get entangled in ur own net of research. |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
558 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2008 : 17:36:51
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mansasulu, i apologise for wrongly quoting you, nevertheless, i still refer you to my earlier postings. Madiba,I know myself enough, and have thoroughly research my subject before express an opinion, so thank you but no thanks for your advice. Also, I believe you should be directing that advice to 'the inferiority complexed mansasulu'. I gave you the opportunity previous to this posting to advice/comment on his vulgarity, but no you didn't. Instead you directed you rhetoric against me, you are a hypocrite.
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Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2008 : 17:54:22
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| Tamsier, watever u say am getting used to ur escape route. Par la petite porte |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 12 May 2008 : 08:08:09
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| for those labouring to bring back or replace the current existing eastern or western religions in africa or the Gambia should stop the talk and laid down foundations for thier ideas. the rastafarians in Jaimaca although contain some old testatmenst stuff but to a large extent has many original things that is indegenous to Jaimaca. they use their music and culture to promote the life style and believe. so let our african brothers put pen to paper and start formulating what they believe african should follow and let them be the actual fore-runners. the indian sub-continenet is full of it. start your own faith group, you never know people may start looking into it. but ranting about middle eastern faiths will make no difference. people see the religion as universal and all-inclusive. why question their choices? we still have heavy animism is Benin republic,Haite and some other parts of south africa. please brothers go ahead and form what you believe is original,black and african. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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tamsier
United Kingdom
558 Posts |
Posted - 12 May 2008 : 10:49:57
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Madiba, I dont know what escape route you are talking about. You haven't made any valid point against me which led me to go 'by the small door' or any other door. Since you have refused to condemn Mansasulu, dont espect me to respond to any further comments you may have on this issue, unless you have the decency and condemn him for his herecy.
Santanfara, you and I dont always 'see eye to eye' on certain issues, but you made some valid points. I respect your opinion. |
Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
Edited by - tamsier on 12 May 2008 10:56:02 |
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