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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 22:00:50
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Guys wats up? I have noticed that anytime we disagrees with another for or against Jammeh rule, we resort to name-calling or insults. Come on guys we are capable of healthy and mature debates. Divergence in views should not mean animosity.
I think we should all be accomodating and tolerant.
Santa, i have noticed of late that you are losing your patience quickly which is very unlike you. Is the ginger tea raising the bile? Or are you suffering from the Colonel's hangover? |
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 22:37:29
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Karamba and santa claus enjoy.................................hehehehehehehehttp://allafrica.com/stories/200712130929.htmlquote:
Originally posted by MADIBA
Guys wats up? I have noticed that anytime we disagrees with another for or against Jammeh rule, we resort to name-calling or insults. Come on guys we are capable of healthy and mature debates. Divergence in views should not mean animosity.
I think we should all be accomodating and tolerant.
Santa, i have noticed of late that you are losing your patience quickly which is very unlike you. Is the ginger tea raising the bile?Or are you suffering from the Colonel's hangover?
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 23:01:43
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Moe,
Did they get their applications approved since their coming into being almost two years ago? If yes, why is the Gambia Journal still pouncing on Jammeh's head for his ills? I see they are still restless and pushing hard with their pens. Either way, it's a good way to weaken their spirit/strength.........hahahaaa.........but it's "DO", just a month ago they were caught plagarising from the point Newspaper openly. I am like damn! That makes it a sad case with the DO. Also, they are good at "felicitations" for the 'borom-jassy'.
Dalton |
"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 23:04:28
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| I Thought i was crazy but you are worse than me Dalton[}.....................Peace |
I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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Moe
USA
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Dalton1
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 23:13:19
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That was a controversial one. I laughed my ass off when i saw the article , I guess thats why Saja is history now. He was just a straight up loser.....................................Peacequote:
Originally posted by Dalton1
Moe,
Just to abreast you,
DO started with cyber terrorists
http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4577
find links above..........haaaaaaaaa
That was the last stroke for my old friend "felicitations", Dr. Sajar Taal.
Dalton
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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Dalton1
3485 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2008 : 23:16:09
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Don't you miss this one
http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4603
caught red-handed stealing some one's writing.
see originality matters a lot; to learn to live within your world , small or big.
I am sick and tired of 'felicitations' DO ....i am like blooti-clad... |
"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 00:20:27
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Dalton1
To state that taking a horse to the river and not being able to force it drink is applicable. Why some people choose deceiving others is amazing.
MOE
It is one of those things that people do assume. On this occasion your assumption that some of us represent a party is an error. In all my postings I have never even once played a hand for a political party. I am not playing for one at the moment.
My concern for Gambia transcends narrow party political sentimentalism. A coup staged in 1994 robbed the Gambian nation off our vital materials. One of it is our very constitutional instruments. You are free to think the way you do if that amounts to personal pleasure; something you are entitled to. My stake is on the criminalization of a whole state machinery starting with a man who takes us all for a wrong ride.
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 00:34:16
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Democracy has been restored over 70% concurred to the fact that Jammeh was their man and he was voted in. The rest of the fools that decided to sit in their lovely living rooms as if they cared less can't be complaining either.
Chill out i never accused you of being affiliated to any political party. I don't know you enough to assume such. It was meant to raise your high blood pressure....................................Peace |
I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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Dalton1
3485 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 00:41:35
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quote:
Originally posted by Moe
Democracy has been restored over 70% concurred to the fact that Jammeh was their man and he was voted in.
It's a nice read.
http://www.thepoint.gm/Editorial129.htm |
"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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dbaldeh
USA
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Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 08:29:57
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quote:
Originally posted by Moe
You've made some serious allegations Mr Baldeh and i was hoping you would clarify certain elements of your story. How can you ascertain that the way the investigation was carried out and the regimes stance on Deyda's death, the circumstantial events surrounding Deyda's death, handling of the investigations all point fingers to the Jammeh regime ?. Once again why would Jammeh Kill a man and i mean the only guy who was willing to challenge the media laws that were being passed at that time. If am right a day before his demise he wrote an interesting letter to the president to reconsider passing the laws. I doubt if President Jammeh has any involvement in his death simply because it would be sheer stupidity. Some one out there is out to discredit the man and turn him into a vampire but the real vampires are amongst us sucking the blood of innocent people daily and hiding in the shadows of the night. Please don't give me no circumstancial evidence and provide some sources, it actuallly helps a lot. Also how can you affirm that Pa Jallow's appointment as Head of the NIA brought the biggest failure in the agency....................Peace.
http://www.gainako.com/My_Homepage_Files/Page1.html
Big moe, it was only a matter of time before you hear my response to clarify our conclusion that the Jammeh regime was directly or indirectly responsible for Deyda's death.
First "Once again why would Jammeh Kill a man and i mean the only guy who was willing to challenge the media laws that were being passed at that time" Moe
This quote is infact one reason dictators eliminate their enemies for simply criticizing them. There are ample evidence that military dictators in Africa and around the world do exactly that and we have seen it happen over and over again in the Jammeh regime.
Beside that point, let me explain why we conclusively hold the Jammeh regime responsible for Deyda's death. First it is the responsibility of the regime to protect the lives of citizens regardless of their political view or party affiliation. Second, where an allege crime especially murder is committed against a noble citizen like Deyda or any citizen, it becomes the states responsibility to investigate and bring the culprit to justice.
If the State fail to thoroughly investigate such crimes and even went further to lay a blame on the victim, then citizens have a right to assess the situation and come to a definitive conclusion. The fact is the buck stops with the government and therefore, with the way the so called investigation went, the regime is fully responsible for the death of this citizen either they committed the crime directly or not. If it was in a State where the constitutional rights of citizens are respected, a wrongful death suit could be brought against the Jammeh regime.
Another point brother Moe, you may be right that Jammeh may not directly order the killings of these innocent citizens. However, you will agree with me he has issued direct threats of death and destruction to his opponents. He has also condone the operation of tugs on behalf of his government in the name of protecting him. There is clear evidence since Jammeh came into power that many of these crimes have been committed under his watch and he said nothing about it. At the end of the day, you as the head of the household is held responsible for most the things that you allow to go on in your household. The buck again stops with Jammeh.
On another issue Moe, it is easy for us to be complacent about on some issues. The fact is if it was your close family who was murdered the way Deyda dies, you wouldn't have been defending a defenseless regime. At the same time you have a right as a citizen to draw your own conclusion just like anyone of us. In the absent of information and credible investigation, we can assess any situation, draw conclusions and leave the rest to history.
On the issue of Pa Jallow, I wrote "Although Pa Jallow's short stay as Director of NIA was not clearly known to us, there is no evidence for us to believe that he in fact attempted to solve these crimes under his agency's watch" This clearly tells you that we have given Pa Jallow the benefit of the doubt as to his efforts or failures.
If you can recalled, Pa Jallow's apppointment as Director of the NIA was welcomed with optimism that with his credibility, he could restore sanity and control of the desfunctional NIA. He made a promise that citizens will no longer be arrested and detained indefinitely without charges. He immediately fired several NIA officers that were deemed unfit for the service. So it was his own promise to clean house that journalist including the point newspaper welcome his appointment with open arms.
Now without knowing exactly why he left because neither government nor its officials talk to the press about circumstances surrounding their service to the nation, we have no choice but to draw our own conslusions. It is therefore, a failure to follow through those promises Pa Jallow made that led us to conclude that he was no different to his predecessors. He still have the responsibility to speak to the press if either you or he feels he was denied the duty to fully carry his responsibilities as a Director and a citizen.
So big Moe, we have no axe to grind. We have no reason to suck the blood of our fellow Gambians. It is however, our civic duty to write and expose the government on its daily activities in the administration of our nation. If at all those who are willing to hang on to power by all means at the expense of a nation are the blood ******s. Since they have no future, they are blinded by power greed that one day will certainly come to an end just like any other....
"Do on to others as you would like them to do on to you" This is simple common sense. What say you??? |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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Santanfara
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Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 09:17:03
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Originally posted by MADIBA
Guys wats up? I have noticed that anytime we disagrees with another for or against Jammeh rule, we resort to name-calling or insults. Come on guys we are capable of healthy and mature debates. Divergence in views should not mean animosity.
I think we should all be accomodating and tolerant.
Santa, i have noticed of late that you are losing your patience quickly which is very unlike you. Is the ginger tea raising the bile?Or are you suffering from the Colonel's hangover?
madis ,tell me you are joking about the colonel question? what hang over do i need to have from a has been colonel who was doing his best to be on the spot light? he was the one exposed for what he is.
now coming to your bais comments .i am not loosing any temper madi. i knew the way to wind up yahya's mental handicap supporters. look what moe come up with. he was insulting all gambian that refuse to vote. what did you call that madi? why didn't you tell moe to grow up.lauging and making jokes about politics is dangerous don't you think so madiba saidy?
if yahya is inocent of all crimes against gambian and we are making up all the stories why then is it that no one has been prosecuted for the murder of koro,deyda,all the nov 11 coupish,the student masacar,the death of dumbuya,the socall excape march coup ploter .why is that the state couldn't prosecute any body for over how many years and months now? tell us why. if you can't then know that your yahya is not fit to be an head state. cus he is responsible ,who else will he arrest?
moe ,since you enjoy cycerspace like any one of us ,then put up with it. we are here to stay .no amount of yahya cry baby will stop us. be use to it.call the online papers blog or brig or even tissue ,see what difference that makes.
madis ,if you can't be a fair ref,stay clear. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 11:45:38
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Santa you still didnt get it i guess? i am not playing the ref here. You are wrong if you think am being bias by not talking to MOe. I read harsh words frm ur postings. Anyway you free to go on the rampage if thats what makes you happy. What i know for sure is that not everybody could be in love with Jammeh also not everybody could be against him. I know that there are alot of un-answered issues such as murders, deaths, disapearances etc which has happened in Jammeh's time, and as its head of gov't he should have been seen to be doing something abt them. However as i hold not evidence as to innocence or guilt i prefer to wait for the truth to come to light. As you a stauanch muslim i believe, making sweeping statements could be dangerous.
I am not a ref but all the same i will stay out of your firing line. Lest your bullets kill me. By the way Santa i am not Saidy. LIVE AND LET LIVE IS A VIRTUE. |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 09 Jan 2008 : 12:12:41
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| madiba ,i don't have any bullet to kill any one. if i do ,i know my target ,the undsipuatble presider over the killings of many innocnet gambian unjustifiablly. i do not advocte for the shooting of the messenger. what evidence is there that you want madiba? why is that over 10 years no one has been question in connection to a minister's death? or may be he was training on his skills. why is that no one has been question in connection to death of dot faal ,fafa nyang,basiru barrow, and countess other? why is that ,no one has been reprimanded in conection with day light excution of copral dumbuya? you want evidence. then call me a bad muslims. islam stands for justcice for all men and women. you don't close your eye to uncomfortable truth madis. i don't care what any one call me. if yahya can be going scot free with the murders of our fellow country men,then we don't deserve peace as a nation. others are suffering and mourning and yet the cheif is laughing ,even declearing a whole as national holiday for his son's ceremony,what about the parents of ousman koro ? what about the parents of basiru and others? please clarify .what a dump question moe. why is it that every one is blame for the country's misfortune but not yahya? yes ,he is innocent.why did he lock-up foday barry and abdoulie kujabi? why did he lock-up the late vincent jatta? the man is a coward. i know what islam preach about justice .is it justice when crimes against people go unsolve ,yet the likes of fatou jaw can be languishing in the court system for nearly an year .no magistarte can set her free without that jilanka authoring it. what do you call that? call me any thing. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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