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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 07 Jan 2008 :  05:14:27  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
You've made some serious allegations Mr Baldeh and i was hoping you would clarify certain elements of your story. How can you ascertain that the way the investigation was carried out and the regimes stance on Deyda's death, the circumstantial events surrounding Deyda's death, handling of the investigations all point fingers to the Jammeh regime ?. Once again why would Jammeh Kill a man and i mean the only guy who was willing to challenge the media laws that were being passed at that time. If am right a day before his demise he wrote an interesting letter to the president to reconsider passing the laws. I doubt if President Jammeh has any involvement in his death simply because it would be sheer stupidity. Some one out there is out to discredit the man and turn him into a vampire but the real vampires are amongst us sucking the blood of innocent people daily and hiding in the shadows of the night. Please don't give me no circumstancial evidence and provide some sources, it actuallly helps a lot. Also how can you affirm that Pa Jallow's appointment as Head of the NIA brought the biggest failure in the agency....................Peace.
http://www.gainako.com/My_Homepage_Files/Page1.html

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....

Edited by - Moe on 07 Jan 2008 05:17:16

Dalton1



3485 Posts

Posted - 07 Jan 2008 :  13:00:11  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
Part 1.

Big Moe,

You are more than welcome to rejoin to debates here or at Gainako at editor@gainakocom. Be rest assured that ours will be no censorship as the editorial agrees on consensus that the argument contains facts and is written in good faith.

On the editorial referenced, it is well argued. I will attempt to go step by step to explain why we arrived at where are. Feel free to wait till we complete or rejoin to the debate as we move on. Meanwhile so many topics have been discussed here and elsewhere about Deyda’s death, you should do your research on those topics, especially the so-called dossier that indicated that Deyda might have been responsible for his own death.

Due to time factor, let us get this topic going like any other topic in chunks; to thread on it while there is time. Since your question is not sent to Gainako’s forum, it is in this forum’s best interest that everyone rejoins mildly. It is going to be a forum discussion while we attempt to help you get clarifications. The truth as they said though is ‘what is obviously right to the eye and the mind.’ At the end of this topic, we hope to convince everyone that ours was written without malice or embargo.

Great you participated in concerns and discussions from Gainako. Meanwhile we appreciate the discussion being strictly argued in context with the editorial, which is why we are going to discuss the editorial here in its bits.

Part 2

quote:
Gainako...Sunday December 16th, 2007 marks three years after seasoned journalist Deyda Hydara founder
of the point newspaper was openly murdered in cold blood few blocks from a police station in the
Gambia. The government of The West African State of the Gambia refused to investigate thoroughly
the brutal murder of this innocent law abiding citizen.



1st paragraph doesn't need an explanation. It is a well known fact.

To be continued upon time...stay on! Don't go away!

Dalton

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:

Edited by - Dalton1 on 07 Jan 2008 13:43:21
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Dalton1



3485 Posts

Posted - 07 Jan 2008 :  23:32:08  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
PART 3

The poem below was written a year ago, on Deyda's demise 2nd anniverssary. It is good that it is still fresh in my eyes.


http://www.poetry.com/Publications/display.asp?ID=W7793062&BN=999&PN=1

Dalton

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 08 Jan 2008 :  00:13:59  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message

Dalton1

Reports by international press had it that when Deyda's family and friends decided laying a wreath on the spot he was shot, Gambia Government agents stopped them. Do you know anything about that? It is certain that Deyda's family, circle of friends and colleagues are not happy about Government of Gambia over his murder according what comes from various media reports. Plus!! Jammeh warned he was going to kill (especially journalists.) Deyda was shot. There is no truer journalist than Deyda Hydara. It is sensible to connect dots that Jammeh's warning has come to be.

Karamba
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Dalton1



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Posted - 08 Jan 2008 :  00:27:40  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
Bro Karamba,

You are well informed, or with a very sharp memory like a computer chip.

I will add some lines.:

* The Jammeh administration stopped "G.M. Mr President" on the point's publication.

* Last year, during Deyda's 2-year rememberance, they stopped people both those representing the media fraternity, human rights et cetera from gathering around or dropping flowers at Deyda's grave. Remember some from outside that were asked to leave the Gambia.

* Until now, apart from the sickening dossier, there isn't any other thing available. I guess one wonders where was everyone when on Deyda's 3rd rememberance, the Point News paper cried....loud and loudest, and yet only some heard that cry. There is the distinction line between sanity and insanity; straightness and crookedness; honesty and dishonesty; et cetera...

Here is the summary of the so-called dossier.

http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5063

But here is a poor way of thinking. Until your family member is affected, you cannot realize the evil from them. Just think about it.

The fact remains the monstrous regime are dirty with blood.

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:

Edited by - Dalton1 on 08 Jan 2008 00:31:49
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Dalton1



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Posted - 08 Jan 2008 :  00:52:39  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message

PART 4


quote:
Gainako's editorial....The National intelligence agency and the police after a lot of pressure from the press and the international community only
came up with a flimsy so called investigation, which only yielded shameful results. The investigators try to blame Deyda for
his own murder despite evidence that he was gunned down openly while driving two of his employee's home.

The investigation raises more questions than answers to this heinous crime against a leading journalist and his family. The
question remains, how could Deyda be responsible for his own death when someone openly fired on him? How much
credibility does the government have by blaming a murdered citizen for his own death?

The circumstantial events surrounding Deyda's death and the handling of the investigations all point fingers to the Jammeh
government directly or indirectly being responsible for his death. The whole country knows that Deyda was a fierce critique
of the current government. The country also knows that the President has issued numerous death threats against his
opponents and critiques. Gambian citizens also know that the government refused to show interest in the investigation of
Deyda's Murder much more putting resources into the investigation. Therefore, in a country where rule of law applies and
the constitutional rights of citizens are respected, the government would have been found responsible for Deyda's death
even if they have no hand in it by virtue of their reluctance to investigate the case.

It is also evidence that similar circumstances surround the disappearance and brutal murder of then finance minister
Ousmam Koro Ceesay. The same circumstances also applied to the murder of innocent students; the disappearance of
prisoners allegedly accused of plotting to overthrow the Jammeh regime and the death of several Ghanaians in the Gambia.

It is clear that there appears to be a trail of heinous crimes committed in the Gambia that the Government refused to
investigate. Why government refused to investigate these crimes indicates that the government of Yahya Jammeh or his
agents has some serious questions to answer.


http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5063

Now in the summary of the dossier on the links above, any sane Gambian will agree to its crooked nature. The said dossier was ******ized to make the death man the killer to his soul. Yet we agree that Deyda was killed by gun men. It further alleged in the dossier that Deyda annoyed a lot of people including the very crumbling administration he was criticizing, to the extent any one could have killed him. How can any responsible administration that calls itself a Gov't of the people come up with something of that 'muntaghai' bent dossier suggesting he committed the crime in the manner it was written. Or better put as how can any sane person---with five common senses support such a dossier without rebuttal. If honesty is choosen, let falsehood die. The *****ic administration cannot and is not clean. Their hands are tainted with blood. There is an interest from someone, somewhere...who ordered he died. If you are the saint, then give us the criminal. That's my message to Jammeh and or any of his cronies. As simple as that...

(Funny though how ram sellers are not sparred from arrest for selling rams at high prices. Beggars are not sparred from arrest for being in the streets. Sea travelers to Europe are not sparred from arrest for being in their boats. Bumsters are not sparred from arrest for being in their home. Money 'wehchekats' are not sparred for their business. Marabouts like Dino of Wassadung are not sparred for doing their marabout business. Why would human killers be sparred? Something is interesting here guys...it's the interest)

To be continued upon time on this mighty editorial...

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:

Edited by - Dalton1 on 08 Jan 2008 01:03:47
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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 08 Jan 2008 :  02:38:25  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
Dalton patience is virtue, am a very patient man, I was simply hoping that the author would respond but like you said lets give it time since almost everyone is kinda busy right now. Am pretty sure we all have different obligations so lets give it another few days and see what happens. I am very sure when i asked for clarity about the paticular article i mentioned the name of Mr baldeh since he was the autor. Karamba matters of sate security are beyond your understanding right now. Sounds to me as if avoiding an uncontrollable situation was the main reason behind that. Gambia is not Europee or America you have high school and secondary school graduates trying to investigate something beyond there scope of understanding. Trust me they are just clueless as to who commited the crime. Thus far i have not seen anything factual so i will remain a vivid reader. There is something terribly wrong with Journalism in cyberspace and gambia at that. There is enough evidence to prove that beyond reasonable doubt. http://www.freedomnewspaper.com/Homepage/tabid/36/mid/367/newsid367/2713/Breaking-News-Bishop-Of-Banjul-S-Tilewa-Johnson-Reacts-To-Graft-Allegations/Default.aspx. Whats sad is Journalism is really becoming a lost art........................................Peace

The art of journalism does not require to blow smoke where there is no fire.
quote:
Originally posted by Dalton1

Part 1.

Big Moe,

You are more than welcome to rejoin to debates here or at Gainako at editor@gainakocom. Be rest assured that ours will be no censorship as the editorial agrees on consensus that the argument contains facts and is written in good faith.

On the editorial referenced, it is well argued. I will attempt to go step by step to explain why we arrived at where are. Feel free to wait till we complete or rejoin to the debate as we move on. Meanwhile so many topics have been discussed here and elsewhere about Deyda’s death, you should do your research on those topics, especially the so-called dossier that indicated that Deyda might have been responsible for his own death.

Due to time factor, let us get this topic going like any other topic in chunks; to thread on it while there is time. Since your question is not sent to Gainako’s forum, it is in this forum’s best interest that everyone rejoins mildly. It is going to be a forum discussion while we attempt to help you get clarifications. The truth as they said though is ‘what is obviously right to the eye and the mind.’ At the end of this topic, we hope to convince everyone that ours was written without malice or embargo.

Great you participated in concerns and discussions from Gainako. Meanwhile we appreciate the discussion being strictly argued in context with the editorial, which is why we are going to discuss the editorial here in its bits.

Part 2

quote:
Gainako...Sunday December 16th, 2007 marks three years after seasoned journalist Deyda Hydara founder
of the point newspaper was openly murdered in cold blood few blocks from a police station in the
Gambia. The government of The West African State of the Gambia refused to investigate thoroughly
the brutal murder of this innocent law abiding citizen.



1st paragraph doesn't need an explanation. It is a well known fact.

To be continued upon time...stay on! Don't go away!

Dalton



I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....

Edited by - Moe on 08 Jan 2008 14:45:14
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Dalton1



3485 Posts

Posted - 08 Jan 2008 :  02:54:26  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Moe

Dalton patience is virtue, am a very patient man, I was simply hoping that the author would respond but like you said lets give it time since almost everyone is kinda busy right now. Am pretty sure we all have different obligations so lets give it another few days and see what happens. I am very sure when i asked for clarity about the paticular article i mentioned the name of Mr baldeh since he was the autor. Karamba matters of sate security are beyond your understanding right now. Sounds to me as if avoiding an uncontrollable situation was the main reason behind that. Gambia is not Europee or America you have high school and secondary school graduates trying to investigate something beyond there scope of understanding. Trust me they are just clueless as to who commited the crime. Thus far i have not seen anything factual so i will remain a vivid reader. There is something terribly wrong with Journalism in cyberspace and gambia at that. There is reasonable evidence to prove that beyond reasonable doubt. [url]...Peace





Big Moe,

Who is the author? Or who do you think the author is?

Isn't it a newspaper editorial which we jointly signed. That's where your culled it from -the mouth of the paper/editorial. If you leave me aside, then you are not getting any other rightful author, because I am a co-author to the piece. If answers are what you yearning for, then you are obviously getting them. I suggest that we thread the topic without personalizing it. I will also suggest that you discuss someone's editorial in a different thread, just so we focus on this editorial you challenged, in its true context. We are ready to give you answers, though we had a choice to transfer the debate to where it belong-Gainako, but it is the respect and spirit of sharing that we have for people. That shows we are transparent and accountable. We are called upon to explain and here we are explaining, but Jammeh and his cronies are called to explain, they choose to sit on their skeletal nibs in their dirty cupboards. That suggest a big interest in it.

I agree with you that something is wrong with ONLINE ACTIVISM. But all these cyber commentators become no saints to that label with the discussions observed here. We lived it here. personally, i don't read the true names of contributors...by that i mean, i take people for who they are....if one says they are 'cyberworth', i take them not to be injustice paul who jailed OJ, Halifa, Hamat et cetera....and i demonstrated this to highest level.....Many a times when people discuss about tyranny, we as Gambians know what it means.....common moe, you know even more...

You still can take a break, let me finish clarifying the editorial or you should dwell strictly on it. I like your patience. That's good. It shouldn't matter to you, who gives you the answers, because i co-signed it. I hope this is clear that i can clarify your points. We can take it word for word. The fact that you threaded it in a forum, means it is a public discussion now. I am calling on any one who is interested to rejoin to the debate. It becomes no exception to any other discussion here.

IT'S FOR OR AGAINST THE TOPIC----STRICTLY ON DEYDA, THOSE THAT KILLED HIM, THE INVESTIGATIONS CARRIED OUT, THE STRAND IN THIS AND OTHER MURDER CASES. WHAT IS YOUR OFFER ON THE TOPIC?

Moe, on a note, i truly want to know. If you are aware of anything that people don't know, please take your pen and echo it loud and clear. Because at the end of the day, we are after only the truth.

FOR GOODNESS SAKE, LET THE TRUTH FLOURISH AT ONCE. IF JAMMEH IS THAT INNOCENT, HE SHOULD INVESTIGATE THESE CRIMES, FOR HE IS THE ONE SITTING ON THE THRONE. WE ARE CALLING FOR JUSTICE. EVEN THE SIMPLEST INVESTIGATION THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MOUNTED ABOUT THOSE STUDENT KILLERS IS STILL AT LARGE. WHO ARE THEY? LIKE I HEARD THIS OTHER ***** SAID ONE TIME THAT THE STUDENTS STARTED THE FIRE OF THE GUNS----INNOCENT STUDENTS WEARING UNIFORMS, HAVING BOOKS, PENS AND PENCILS.HOW CAN PENS, BOOKS OR PENCILS BE GUNS?

Let justice flourish at once! Wallahi, Gambians are fighting a true war. For those that think it is a joke, let them hold their weak grips. I think it is a real fight, and that's why i am sharpening my sword even sharper. I am not after the innocent ones. no! Whoever is innocent and peaceful, i fear to trample on your feet. If you oozed blood then you must be ready to add me to the list.

"mbaalel jamm!!". We continue tomorrow---inshallahu.


Dalton


"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:

Edited by - Dalton1 on 08 Jan 2008 03:54:58
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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 08 Jan 2008 :  14:57:07  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
lest add another flavour here. moe ,you seems to be arround bantaba for a while but i never came across any of your postngs in defence of yahay. since you wish to start doing that now.read this link and then make your comments and we can go from there.

http://www.allgambian.net/opiniondetail.aspx?id=12

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 08 Jan 2008 :  15:03:14  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
moe ,on the subject of baba jobe ,please read part two of pk jarjure. here it is.
http://www.allgambian.net/NewsDetails.aspx?id=63

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 08 Jan 2008 :  15:44:40  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
Santa , I seriously hope that you are not expecting me to take information from cyberspace as evidence. The problem is the value of the source has been defaced and it has rendered itself worhtless. There is a certain criteria that has to be met inorder for information disseminating services to be considered a paper. If at all it shows signs of being politically motivated information from it has to be taken with a grain of salt. Ask Binneh what happend to his SWORD OF TRUTH . Better yet what happened to his Hommies in turkey. I watched the whole debacle unfold right here in cyberspace. You really don't expect me to believe anything from disgruntled ex Lieutenants do you. This is, has been, will be my point of focus at present. Online papers or "Blogs" as i like to call them, since thats what they are will be rendered choiceless and the only option is to straighten their acts and stop the nonsense journalism. Someone out there needs to educated them that they are subjected to libel and sedition charges like everyone else. Makes you wonder why Jammeh locks them up ain"t it. The same freedom of speech they yearn for they will deprive the average joe pushing their pens to the limit but not any more.............................Peace
quote:
Originally posted by Santanfara

moe ,on the subject of baba jobe ,please read part two of pk jarjure. here it is.
http://www.allgambian.net/NewsDetails.aspx?id=63


I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....

Edited by - Moe on 08 Jan 2008 15:47:54
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Dalton1



3485 Posts

Posted - 08 Jan 2008 :  16:29:00  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
Moe,

I wonder how many people digest on news AND WHO WILL BE TRUE JUDGES? WHETHER INDIVIDUALS OR PEOPLE WHO ARE EQUALLY DISGRUNTED BY MENTION OF CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS? THESE JUDGES MUST THEMSELVES NOT BE COMMITTING THE SAME CRIMES THEY POINTING FINGERS TO DAILY BECAUSE AS YOU ARE JUDGING OTHERS, YOU ARE ALSO BEING JUDGED.

quote:
Kons...the truth. my truth. your truth


See, I personally think, newspapers or blogs or even forums....the name has little significance as far as i am concerned. It is the information that is truthfully being desiminated. In the past, i argued here, commentators here doesn't make difference with any other paper, blog or forum. Hence this is the only forum where i saw commentators justifying Jammeh's chosen Holiday for his new born..just for my short scope of observation..

But this is not to wholly disagree that tabloid exist, by some in the peoples' judgement, their choice of activism, as judged by many. That doesn't still include everyone in that dirty package. Again, can a tabloid mind (if at all tabloid) judge another tabloid (if at all tabloid) mind? That's the problem that I find hard to comprehend...

It is true you can take the donkey to the pool to drink but you can never force the donkey to drink pool water. People must think outside the box. If in school, you are taught (1+1=2), that means you can add other numbers too.

If and only if what Yaya's crumbling administration is doing doesn't pose a red flag to the decent minds of Gambians or outsiders, then some eyes are obviously blinded by fallacy or willful distortion of history, because everything is under the microscope. This would be criminal in the HIGHEST level.

-Deyda killed there
-Koro Killed there
-Some students killed there
-Fatou Jaw being given a kangaroo courting there
-Cheif Ebrima Manneh incomminicadoo there
-Daba & others disappeareing there
-OJ, Halifa and Hamat being jailed there
-et cetera, the list continues nonstop

People of all works of life should yearn for true education. That's rightly put. Education has no limits. It's a continuous process, especially on the side of learning respect, approach, discourse, communication, writing, et cetera...I am sure most of them are on it. Infact their ability to express thoughts in a language not their mother tongue attest to this fact. But what must accompany education is truthfulness, sincerity and readiness to dispense the truth. Otherwise it becomes the same 'intellectual prostitution/dishonesty' that we are used to in these forums, where someone feels the heat because a friend or relative is mentioned, then start insulting intelligence. They don't call themselves journalists because they are not attached to any paper, but they are political commentators in one forum as ever-innocent news analysts/angels ..but readers in another one....I think it is ok to criticize constructively if it can be argued on facts. The funny part is the moment you pick up a pen to inform, share your opinion or analyse, you've chosen to inform. That's it period. The forum or paper you do it at is not important to me. At this point, be your own judge, whether you are tabloid the way you do it or not. If so, you must desist before asking others to desist. To recognize the disease well, you have to be a specialist or must have suffered from it yourself. On a general token, that's what every honest mind should answer first.

If one cannot put his or her education into good practical, it is useless education. Education is meant to nurture the brain; to grow the brain to maturity and proper reasoning; to be able to differentiate wrong from right, injustice from justice, proper analysis of things, fair judgement that is not selfish, et cetera...If education cannot get us to these heights, then i am sorry, our educated intellectuals has failed us like observed in the past and the trend continues nonstop. Such statements that caught my attention in this very forum where some one once said the student demonstrators first open fire. When I knew the ***** was somewhere in pluto at the time, probably drinking tea, when hundreds of students were beated and tortured mercilessly on a broad day light. See the kind of breeds this world of ours is grooming? How can such pseudo-intellectuals preach us anything that we can take? I mean all of us----online analysts or those attached to papers?

moi ollof deh wah "defnah suuuuuf siiiiii domodaa" (fluent wollof speakers should excuse my hitches)....non english speakers, it means 'pouring sand on a Gambian dish called domodaa.'

CATCH YOU LATER ON THE GAINAKO EDITORIAL DEBATE.....

ALL I CAN SAY IN SHORT; LET EVERYONE RECOGNIZE INJUSTICES AND SAY NO TO ALL SORTS OF INJUSTICES ANYWHERE, EVERYWHERE.

You don't have to wait till your relative falls a trap of tyranny before you can start crying wolf.....wolf..

Dalton


"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:

Edited by - Dalton1 on 08 Jan 2008 17:37:22
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

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Dalton1

Yaya Jammeh is the most dangerous criminal to have emerged on Gambians. This fellow staged a coup. That is criminal. He deceived Gambians to draft a constitution. Then he turned around to steal the best part of what Gambians agreed to be governed by. He kills to exert fear on the whole population. Why will decent Gambians not hate such a brutal person? He was very, very poor. He uses the position of president to steal and corrupt all state facilities in his selfish desire for dirty wealth. Who is able to say all that is not true? This is not a matter of opinion. It is a moment that decent and seasoned Gambians resolved to take the bull by the horn. If anyone thinks these writings and debates are carried out by disgruntled elements as APRC thugs want to portray they are in for greater disappointment. Let them stop jokes. Did we read MOE stating about state security? What a child play!! There is no law in Gambia. It is a matter of bandits clubbing together and calling it a government. How can a government that came to being by coup come to preach legality? What is the legal basis for a coup in the first place? APRC is the most illegal political fabric in the history of Gambia. Why will Yaya not explain about why he took part in a coup? He said he emerged on us to fight corruption. Who is today the most corrupt person in Gambia? Let us move from this childish games staged by those who wish to stand behind such illegal state of affairs and want the population to keep mute. That is over for now and ever more. If anyone thinks this is a school boy affair think again. The move to restore legal rule in Gambia has long begun. The threats echoed on APRC political rallies will not pay on this and other responsible platforms.

Karamba
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Dalton1



3485 Posts

Posted - 08 Jan 2008 :  18:39:08  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message

PART 5


Bro Karamba et al,

Here are some links for reference

http://www.thepoint.gm/Editorial184.htm

http://www.thepoint.gm/Editorial424.htm

http://www.thepoint.gm/Editorial422.htm

http://www.thepoint.gm/Editorial402.htm

http://www.thepoint.gm/Editorial299.htm

http://www.thepoint.gm/Editorial178.htm

Here is a nice read...to fit under this topic. These are all but just a glimpse of what is under the microscope. Now one wonders why such is being constantly echoed.....

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:

Edited by - Dalton1 on 08 Jan 2008 19:03:45
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Santanfara



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Posted - 08 Jan 2008 :  19:38:11  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
moe, i was just testing you. now that it is clear you belong to yahya school of thought.the crazy july 22 gang system of patriotism. since when did you assume the role of verifying which online paper is a news paper or blog? what is a blogg? where would you place the Observers and the whole apparatus of the gambia radio and television procasting networks?

come again moe. who was it that authorise the killings of the nov 11 aborted coupish? if you absolve yahya of all those crimes then ,why he is sitting in state house as an head of state if he couldn't know the human right abuses commited against his subjects?
you better stand on firm footings before you make a mess of yourself. people's family members have been killed during yahya's presidency and you make fun of that moe ,get a life.
why is fatou jaw still not locked up if the state have any case against her? yahya is playing games and you swallow all his rubish.
you need to ask alhasan for a good musical instrument and start drumming up yahya's praises because you will read many unpleasant truths about him even if you think we are all disgruntle eliments.
yahya doesn't even care about his strong militants let alone you thousands of miles away. do not dishonour yourself. gambians are free to write what they believe is true and appropraite online ,if you can't deal with that ,take a hike moe. who are you to tell us what to write or what not write? who are you mister ? if you think you can create doubts about yahya's criminality, you have some thing coming.a man who openly claim he may be a ****** and a man who openly swore to bury gambains six feet deep ,a man who have indeed fulfil some of his criminal promises ,you moe want us to sing his song of praises .not in a million years. he kills and that is a fact. a man who just declear a whole day as public holiday for his son's naming ceremony ,you call that man a responsible person .what a sad fellew you are moe.
you don't know the least about yahya. that man is callous to his closest friends than any other person. how many of his friends are dead or in prison ? how many have he betrayed? if you think all his friends are bad people and yahya is the only honest and patriotic leader then , you are in deep slumber moe. he betray all his fellow coupish. he turn against them all.

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"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

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Edited by - Santanfara on 08 Jan 2008 19:44:40
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No need to test me bro i am whatever you may think i am. I belong to nobody's school of thought. The wonderful thing about cyberspace is that no body has to authorize you to assume any position friend. I can and will verify any thing i feel is bullcrap.

Information is power Santa claus, May be if you decided to improve on your IT skills or researched just a little bit you won't be sitting here asking me that dumb question. I know the differences between a blog and a newspaper thats my reason for enlightning your foolish ass. Who the hell are you santa to tell me to take a hike are you stupid or what. I will be your worse nightmare in cyberspace, What am telling you is what you see in cyberspace is not Journalism at all infact its seditious, libelious acts being commited by people who really don't even seem to understand the law. It does prevail and many will fall victim to it.

So santa how do you know who authorized the killings of the coupist , That is if they are even dead. Did'nt foday makalo supposedly rise from the dead and is eating his favourite malian dishes. How about the other coupist that were feared dead, They are all rising from the dead , aint one of them supposedly in Morrocco visiting the Gambian embassy and is friends with the Gambian ambassador. The story was carried by our dear friends at "THE ENQUIRER" Freedom.

The problem with you Gambians is everything you do, you expect recognition for it or expect to be rewarded for it. I don't need nothing and i mean absolutely nothing from Yahya better yet anyone at that. For those of ya'll that ain't been to Gambia since you left take some time off and visit.

Santa i did't see your reindeers this season but you can easily hitch a ride with me and i will surely take you to the otherside.

Trust me i will not belittle or ridicule the family of a Greatman like deyda yet i will not sit here and read foolish " breaking stories" that have no element of truth to it. Are you so called journalist aware of the false hope and deceptive nonsense ya'll up to trying to satisfy your jerked up egos.

I will tell you a secret after he threatens everyone he sits and laughs about it since he already knows what kind of babies he is dealing with.

Karanba the only thing Jammeh had to do was say Darboe am coming for you and what happened, It became a 100 meter dash for the nearest embassy. He is living in Gambia Unharmed and still vying to be president so give me a break partner. This is not a UDP forum either

Am not the only one sick of this rhetorical bullcrap http://www.freedomnewspaper.com/Homepage/tabid/36/mid/367/newsid367/2716/In-support-of-veteran-journalist-Suwaebou-Conateh-/Default.aspx...........................................Peace


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Originally posted by Santanfara

moe, i was just testing you. now that it is clear you belong to yahya school of thought.the crazy july 22 gang system of patriotism. since when did you assume the role of verifying which online paper is a news paper or blog? what is a blogg? where would you place the Observers and the whole apparatus of the gambia radio and television procasting networks?

come again moe. who was it that authorise the killings of the nov 11 aborted coupish? if you absolve yahya of all those crimes then ,why he is sitting in state house as an head of state if he couldn't know the human right abuses commited against his subjects?
you better stand on firm footings before you make a mess of yourself. people's family members have been killed during yahya's presidency and you make fun of that moe ,get a life.
why is fatou jaw still not locked up if the state have any case against her? yahya is playing games and you swallow all his rubish.
you need to ask alhasan for a good musical instrument and start drumming up yahya's praises because you will read many unpleasant truths about him even if you think we are all disgruntle eliments.
yahya doesn't even care about his strong militants let alone you thousands of miles away. do not dishonour yourself. gambians are free to write what they believe is true and appropraite online ,if you can't deal with that ,take a hike moe. who are you to tell us what to write or what not write? who are you mister ? if you think you can create doubts about yahya's criminality, you have some thing coming.a man who openly claim he may be a ****** and a man who openly swore to bury gambains six feet deep ,a man who have indeed fulfil some of his criminal promises ,you moe want us to sing his song of praises .not in a million years. he kills and that is a fact. a man who just declear a whole day as public holiday for his son's naming ceremony ,you call that man a responsible person .what a sad fellew you are moe.
you don't know the least about yahya. that man is callous to his closest friends than any other person. how many of his friends are dead or in prison ? how many have he betrayed? if you think all his friends are bad people and yahya is the only honest and patriotic leader then , you are in deep slumber moe. he betray all his fellow coupish. he turn against them all.


I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....

Edited by - Moe on 08 Jan 2008 22:16:19
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