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kobo
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 01 Nov 2007 : 17:20:10
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Originally posted by Nyarikangbanna
I never said I speak for UDP neither did I ever said I am a member. My moral support, however, has been made available since the NADD stalmate that preceded the 2006 election. I have seen no reason to withdraw that support. Instead, what I keep seeing is the need to continue giving that moral support and encourage others to do the same. I shall remain steadfast in that endevour. I speak for myself on the basis of what I know. There is nobody close to UDP [apart from Mr Mballow] leadership who can claim he knows me.
Regarding Darboe, I will wrap up with this hard fact; love him or loathe him, he is the most popular opposition figure the Gambia has ever produced since independence.
I will now leave Halifa's desciples with their perpetual bitterness about UDP withdrawal from NADD. There is no cure for that. It will follow them all into your graves as the withdrawal will never be revised. UDP voters are happy about it. They still continue to vote for their party and leader in their over 100,000 numbers. UDP now needs to get the passive electorates to get involved and get voting for the Party. That is their task and i hope they make progress before the next general election.
Rest my case in peace.
Qualification of that in my opinion should include; A man with good political vision, a Gambian hero, one of the greatest Lawyers (if not one of the best on ALL GAMBIAN HIGH PROFILE POLITICAL CASES & CONSTUTUTIONAL MATTERS), rather unfortunate leader of the most popular opposition party ever (to-date) who never got elected or occupy a seat in parliament throughout his POLITICAL CAREER AND SINCE U.D.P. EXISTED!
I would rather advised U.D.P to consult him (if he does not contemplate yet) to hand over the barton to another promising or dynamic, good political contender and him not to retire but rally his moral support and goodwill at all times behind the party that was created for him to lead based on his credentials and confidence that was reposed on him; and take into consideration his age, political records & political blunders of his LEADERSHIP.
Finally it is my fervent hope that U.D.P consider another tactical & strategic coalition with other opposition parties under A UNITED FRONT or ALLIANCE inorder to dislodge A.P.R.C from power! I would recommend U.D.P to URGENTLY CONSIDER an open GENUINE dialogue for A UNITED FRONT TOWARDS THE COMMON GOOD with all opposition parties before next elections.
Few selected best quotes & food for thoughts to FORWARD THE GAMBIA OUR HOMELAND:-
1) "Like Lincoln said, if he were asked to cut a tree, he would most of his time sharpening his axe. Lets sharpen our political campaigns and win more votes to have our party(ies) in office!"
2) "Lets maintain constructive debates and put ethical principles into practice and no name calling please!"
3) "........national interests!"
4) "........campaign three years earlier!"
A BIG THANK YOU LAWYER & BEST WISHES!  |
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brikama
USA
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Posted - 02 Nov 2007 : 08:54:21
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Kobo, I fully support all your propositions; unity is the only way forward. We cannot make gains on our enemy if we are divided. We must unite under one umbrella, so we can muster an enormous force that will knock down our common enemy that has effectively hijacked our way of life—peace and happiness.
Our enemy is not only destroying our common resources, he is also torturing, maiming, and killing us in large numbers. The effects of ruthless regimes are long lasting; they are like the ripping effects of a wave that can extend far away from the point of impact. The effects of current happenings in the Gambia will hunt us for a long time to come. And the more this regime stays in power, the more Gambians would have to deal with its negative effects. It is high time we unite under one voice and demand our lives from the demon.
It is crystal clear that no one group can do it alone. We must all swallow our pride and join hands for the sake of the Gambia our homeland. If we don’t, our grandchildren would inherit poverty, ignorance, and backwardness and their peers would looked down on them, just like we are treated today by developed cultures.
Thanks
Brikama
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dbaldeh
USA
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Posted - 02 Nov 2007 : 23:52:26
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I endorse Kobo's suggestion as well. No single political party can dislodge the APRC in the Gambia. Only unity or some form of the parties forging an alliance can we gain ground against Jammeh.
I believe all is not lost if our opposition parties are willing to put National interest first. They have to separate personality from the issues.
This is what my friends on the other side did not get. How much more can it be clear that gaining 100,000 votes is not enough to dislodge a machinery like the Jammeh regime. They just don't get it and will never get it.
Are they talking about galvanising inactive voters, yah right... it is the same drumming over and over. It only sinks when the results are announce.
I must declare here that I am willing to support any candidate including that of Darboe if they are willing to rally everybody behind them and willing to work with what is workable.
I am certain, Darboe surrounded by Halifa, Sedia, Amadou Sanneh, OJ, and everyone else on the same platform, we have a winning formula. I had suggested here before that UDP leadership could have been acceptable if they were willing to not monopolize the government. I suggested a Darboe/Halifa Candidacy or Halifa/Darboe Candidacy.
Guess what? that formula was outrightly rejected because lousy Amat Bah was selected as VP for UDP/NRP. UDP and NRP were banging on the Fula and Mandinka combination votes. Atleast this was what Hamat said openly. That was the dummest voting strategy I have ever heard.
All is on the table again, and together we can overcome. Yes, everyone of these candidates alone has a strength and weakness, but together we have more strengths than weaknesses. Am sure this cannot be acceptable to them because of the greed of finally getting into government alone without accountability.
With members of PDOIS inclusive, corruption or lack of accountability would be a thing of the past. This is a scary thought to many.... |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 03 Nov 2007 : 00:17:13
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Originally posted by Santanfara
brikama,are you neutral in your political postings ? and i know for certain dbaldeh is not .he lean more than he should as an editor to pdois camp than is expected. that is my personal observation.....
Santanfara, my editorial duties has nothing to do with my right as a private citizen. If you did not notice, I have not use Gainako once to promote any agenda of any political party. I therefore, have a right as a private citizen to support which ever party I want to support.
I am a proud supporter of the PDOIS and I subscribe to their agendas whole heartedly. I thought you knew about that long time ago.
Here is why I subscribe to PDOIS.
To PDOIS leadership is a privilege and not a right. Greed and personal wealth or popularity is not their way. For them, leaders are servants but not lords or kings. Knowledge, integrity, respect and personal sacrifice is their motto. They never compromise their principles for positions and that is what I belief in as well.
Members of PDOIS understands the basic problems of our society. They understand how economies work and what need to be done to put to work the productive base of our economy.
Yes, accountability, leadership by example, respect in the international world and outright knowledge of government is what make me subscribe to PDOIS.
Finally, resignation from power and their positions if they did not deliver. Yes, have you ever heard of African politicians resigning because they fail to deliver? In PDOIS leadership, resignation from power is like drinking water. These folks, their lives are not attached to position of power. Even better, they donate their tax payer salaries towards local projects. Politics and leadership like never seen before is what you find in PDOIS. I will subscribe forever to these ideas either PDOIS is in existence or not. Whether they get into power or not I believe in those principles.
I hope you know that I subscribe to their ideas and not NAME or personalities unlike Nyarikang (Nyankumo). I have a common principle with them. If that makes me a disciple so be it...
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Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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kobo
United Kingdom
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 15 Nov 2007 : 19:08:49
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Typical African politics and same scenarios!!!!For ALL Gambia opposition to current regime, lets share and learn about a divided and weak opposition from the Zimbawe experience; Bantaba World Politics topic Zimbabwe opposition questions its leader under http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4895
Hopefully we would all realised that 'IT IS NOT ABOUT WHAT SHOULD BE DONE BUT SOMETHING MUST BE DONE = TAKING ACTION AND DO SOMETHING AS IT GET WORST!
More food for thoughts! Bantaba General discussion topic: SIMPLE, is it under http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4868
Hi! Ebra, you mentioned somewhere in Bantaba about 100 camels brought to the Gambia from Mauritania by H.E. What happened with those '100 camels'? Are they for any PROJECT or FARM? Were they slaughtered, SACRIFICED or still alive and roaming in the farm. Remember we have many spiritual leaders, SHEIKHS, 'marabouts' and sooth sayers in Mauritainia nad many followers of these spritual leaders within the sub-region! They are also rookies in African politics.
Pharoah's dream FOR 20011! interpreted. Just 3yrs of harvest = 20 yrs of femine!
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
1382 Posts |
Posted - 20 Nov 2007 : 22:28:25
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Originally posted by dbaldeh
I endorse Kobo's suggestion as well. No single political party can dislodge the APRC in the Gambia. Only unity or some form of the parties forging an alliance can we gain ground against Jammeh.
I believe all is not lost if our opposition parties are willing to put National interest first. They have to separate personality from the issues.
This is what my friends on the other side did not get. How much more can it be clear that gaining 100,000 votes is not enough to dislodge a machinery like the Jammeh regime. They just don't get it and will never get it.
Are they talking about galvanising inactive voters, yah right... it is the same drumming over and over. It only sinks when the results are announce.
I must declare here that I am willing to support any candidate including that of Darboe if they are willing to rally everybody behind them and willing to work with what is workable.
I am certain, Darboe surrounded by Halifa, Sedia, Amadou Sanneh, OJ, and everyone else on the same platform, we have a winning formula. I had suggested here before that UDP leadership could have been acceptable if they were willing to not monopolize the government. I suggested a Darboe/Halifa Candidacy or Halifa/Darboe Candidacy.
Guess what? that formula was outrightly rejected because lousy Amat Bah was selected as VP for UDP/NRP. UDP and NRP were banging on the Fula and Mandinka combination votes. Atleast this was what Hamat said openly. That was the dummest voting strategy I have ever heard.
All is on the table again, and together we can overcome. Yes, everyone of these candidates alone has a strength and weakness, but together we have more strengths than weaknesses. Am sure this cannot be acceptable to them because of the greed of finally getting into government alone without accountability.
With members of PDOIS inclusive, corruption or lack of accountability would be a thing of the past. This is a scary thought to many....
You have lied here again. What Hamat have said was that given that he scored 6% and Darboe 34% in the previous election, if that was maintained, then they only needed 5% extra to capture victory.[If you deny this then show proof of what you attributed to Hamat] . Unfortunately, this did not workout due to the unprecedent low voter turn-out.You can blame this on the split if you so wish but for UDP/NRP and indeed for myself, it is owed to the political tactics of harrassment, intimidation, threat of victimization and inducement implored by the APRC.
The point of considering Ayatollah Sallah as vice president is outlandish as he was not and blatantly refused to join a UDP led allaince. Besides, if positions were to be awarded on the basis of the size of one's support base [Am not saying this was the case], Hamat would still got that job as he has a larger followership than Sallah. Also, if it was to be based on merit/qualification, Halifa would still be a looser as there are more qualified persons within the ranks of the UDP. So if you and other Ayatollah Sallah desciples are looking for a cake for Sallah, a cake that is not yet baked, and if that Cake is the vice presidency, then I suggest you stay outside for good because it will not happen. UDP is not afraid of loosing any election as long as the result reflects the wishes of the Gambian people. Thus, they will not succumb to any form of bullying and/blackmailing from any person or group either within or outside the Gambia.
I suppose Hamat is now vindicated when he said: 'NADD wants a cake that is not yet baked'.
You terrible lair! |
I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union. |
Edited by - Nyarikangbanna on 20 Nov 2007 23:55:51 |
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 21 Nov 2007 : 05:21:49
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You know am getting sick and tired of your ignorance, unprofessional language and just point blank political destitute. You absolutely have no idea what you are saying and anytime you utter any words on this forum you expose your imaturity and outright school boy characteristic.
You absolutely cannot even analyse a statement without taking it out of context. It shows your arrogant and how ill informed you are. You will dance to your own music some day...
You are lucky that you hide behind your key boards and utter nonsense. Expose yourself to the general leadership and identify who you are as an individual.
I am pretty sure you are a kind with the lowest self esteem that cannot get any attention but getting negative and insulting.
If you continue on this name calling I will petition you to the forum moderator to get your undecense attitude from destracting people from discussing serious issues. One more time you will be disgrace for good... |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 22 Nov 2007 : 11:55:26
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Originally posted by Nyarikangbanna
UDP is not afraid of loosing any election as long as the result reflects the wishes of the Gambian people.
YES! A very good point and TO ACCEPT IN GOOD FAITH WHEN ELECTIONS ARE PROPERLY CONDUCTED THROUGH A FAIR LEVELL GROUND!
"it is owed to the political tactics of harrassment, intimidation, threat of victimization and inducement implored by the APRC." in your own words Nyarinkanbana!
How can it reflect the wishes of Gambian people under present circumstances? Back to square ONE!
"Thus, they will not succumb to any form of bullying and/blackmailing from any person or group either within or outside the Gambia."
How and where is the bullying and blackmailing coming from? So you don't care about OPPOSITIONS RE-STRUCTURING, DIPLOMATIC/POLITICAL RELATIONS BETWEEN THEM, RE-NEGOTIATIONS, TACTICAL DEALS, SOLIDARITY UNDER A UNITED NATIONAL FRONT TO CHALLENGE, FIGHT TOGETHER AGAINST A.P.R.C & PRESENT GOVERNMENT. In simple terms, INORDER TO HAVE GAINS & REAP BENIFITS; they need to COMMUNICATE, OPEN-DIALOGUE, mobilsed themselves together and formulate joint PACTS, PLANS & STRATEGIES. Look at recent LOCAL AUTHORITY LEGISLATION & forthcoming LOCAL GOVERNMENT ELECTIONS 2008 and you will observe that they haven't done anything EFFECTIVE YET TO MAKE THEIR VOICES HEARD!!! The battle is for ALL WHO WANT CHANGE TO THE SYSTEM!
Courtesy of Freedom Newspaper and allafrica.com, to spice it-up refer to an interview of another BIG WIG OF U.D.P; Gambia: Interview With Mr. Mballow under this link http://allafrica.com/stories/200711220591.html
It looks that 2011 may even be better than 2006 for the incumbent H.E and A.P.R.C. With no STRATEGIES & TACTICS, it looks SCARY! Isn't it so
"OUT OF MANY ONLY ONE GOAL! TOGETHER WE STAND! DIVIDED WE FALL!
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 23 Nov 2007 : 14:42:44
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AGAIN! "it is owed to the political tactics of harrassment, intimidation, threat of victimization and inducement implored by the APRC." in your own words Nyarinkanbana! Why can;t the opposition PROTESTS, FORWARD PETTITIONS, DEMAND CERTAIN CONDITIONS PRIOR TO ELECTIONS AND THREATEN TO BOYCOT IF NOT MET, EXPOSED THEM & LOBBY SUPPORT THROUGH THE INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE. Last general elctions they succeeded and the members of the diplomatic corps/international community forwarded a PETTITION against the government. The TRUTH is that we have very WEAK OPPOSITION PARTIES, WEAK LEADERSHIPS, LACK OF STRATEGIES & COUNTER-TACTICS.
Belive me that P.D.O.I.S care less about positions, Presidency or Vice Presidency. They are always working hard on EMPOWERMENT AND PROMOTION OF GOOD DEMOCRATIC STRUCTURES AND IDEAL POLITICAL ATMOSPHERE. Courtesy of Foroyaa and allafrica.com Part 11 of this interview (Gambia: Interview With Halifa Sallah) is relevant here; under http://allafrica.com/stories/200711230782.html
Its the same as with Pakistan and all opposition parties, lawyers and students STAND TOGETHER and ultimately achieving results.
Pakistan government suspended from commonwealth. Courtesy of Senegambianews.com for latest on Pakistan political crises under http://www.senegambianews.com/article.cfm?articleID=2019
I wonder what would happen under http://www.senegambianews.com/article.cfm?articleID=2018 |
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somita
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Dec 2007 : 13:40:42
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| If you are on the ground as Im you will have no doubt that supporting Darbor's Candidature is waste of time and resources. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 06 Dec 2007 : 12:55:06
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Originally posted by somita
If you are on the ground as Im you will have no doubt that supporting Darbor's Candidature is waste of time and resources.
A POINT for U.D.P inner circle, stalwarts, members and Nyarinkanbana to SERIOUSLY take note and consider! Also a very SAD situation for opposition parties to dismantle the STUMBLING BLOCKS (WITHIN 3 YEARS OR NEAR FUTURE); INODER TO TOPPLE A GOVERNMENT THEY WANT TO CHANGE FOR BETTER GAMBIA, LIBERATION, MORE DEVELOPMENTS, PROGRESS AND FREEDOM!
Thanks Somita. |
Edited by - kobo on 06 Dec 2007 14:17:52 |
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