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kobo
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 Posted - 07 Jun 2007 : 14:58:13
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Well done Karamba, you are doing well, are you sure you are not one of those that were in the inner circle of july 94?. Anyway life is more than just pointing fingers at leaders especially when you are sitting in the comfort of your living room with a wide screen tv and a lot of certificates. One thing i know is that no matter what you said and keep saying, Jammeh is still the elected president covered by constitutional rights to protect and serve the nation. So if he does that within his own policy, then thats what he is employed for. Jammeh is not a dreamer and he knows what power means. The only place I see jammeh practice his excecutive powers is the sackings. The murders are criminal acts and I do not want to attribute my head of state to any criminal acts. I hope you can understand that.
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"I do not want to attribute my head of state to any criminal acts. I hope you can understand that."
Why asking about FACTS? Are these CRIMES FACTS or not? Are they not commited under a regime and victims of murder and assasinations? Are the deaths natural or accidental? However due process of law considers all CRIMES and CRIMINALS SHOULD FACE JUSTICE, isn't it?
More interesting reading from other opinions "Are Soldier Babysitters?" under link http://www.gainako.com/My_Homepage_Files/Page2.html ON TOPIC Dairy of an African Journalist: a review
However opinions differ!. You have condemmed Sadaam as a devil and others have different view of him. Don't censore and threatened members with your words; "Will you stop!!" in an open forum for debate, exchanges of views and opinions to promote DIVERSITY, LIBERTY AND DEMOCRACY for the Gambia our homeland! |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Jun 2007 : 18:05:11
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Jammeh as Ex-President on trial does not mean Jammeh being sent to the gallows. With the soft mindset of Gambians, it is unlikely that Jammeh will be subjected to the type of brutal treatment much like he now does to his victims. Perhaps while awaiting trial in state prison custody, some guards or ordinary citizens will prefer to take their turn over him. The laws will prevail to ensure his safety while in lawful detention. Perhaps Jammeh is best advised to reduce pressure on others now so that when it is his turn to face the laws, he expects to be treated fairly. Anyone who seeks to maltreat Jammeh will be equally challenged much like Jammeh is being challenged now for maltreating others. That is one good reason that Jammeh needs playing it easy now for his future security. |
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bread man
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Posted - 07 Jun 2007 : 23:17:09
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| Kobo, "will you stop" was just a figure of speech. Any one that reads my postings should know that I am a democrat and therefore do not threaten anybody. |
It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Jun 2007 : 16:33:50
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Kobo, "will you stop" was just a figure of speech. Any one that reads my postings should know that I am a democrat and therefore do not threaten anybody.
Thanks for the clarification. However we are sometimes overwhelm or react in certain ways because of nervous breakdowns, which might not have been your case?
It is interesting to table this topic for discussion and probe the facts as VICTIMS ARE PLEAING FOR JUSTICE AND A BAD LEGACY FOR THIS CURRENT REGIME IS IN EXISTENCE AS A FACT. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Jun 2007 : 17:58:18
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Kobo,
Gambians are petrified by Jammeh's insensitive passion for power to destroy. Every passing moment adds up how much danger Gambians are exposed to under this bully of a character. Bread Man knows that Jammeh is both destructive and dangerous. The buildings and roads are more captivating to allow Bread Man roll out of Jammeh's deceptive web of faked developments. That is how dangerous it is when very intelligent people like Bread Man are being deceived so long. Joy to you Bread Man for beginning to see light out of the long dark tunnel. |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 08 Jun 2007 : 23:49:45
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karamba ,to ammuse you on the weekend i will let you take a brief look at mr commander charles taylors own personal website .a friend of yahya .taylor's wife use to visit banjul. look at the questioning.
www.charlestaylortrial.org.
taylor was killing liberians like chicken yet he already started to look pale. he use to arrange raids for my mandinka mori people in liberia .today taylor is sweating under the aircondition room.99 days for the thief one day for the owner. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Jun 2007 : 01:30:43
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Brother Santanfara,
Great times to you with many thanks for your good input. You are quite right in recalling Charles Taylor's close links with Chairman Jammeh of the coup maker REVOLUTIONISTS. Jammeh being who he is, to disown Charles Taylor is the least matter he will give any second thought. Baba Jobe was close to him but dumped to retire in Mile 2 Prisons. Jammeh later renamed the prison "Baba Jobe's Hotel" in mockery of his closest revolutionary comrade. Will Jammeh condemn the process Charles Taylor is going through? That is what is expected of a friend IN NEEED. Tuti Faal Jammeh and Taylor's wife were good friends too. It is normal that Jammeh retains the pride and stand by their joint friendship. That will make Jammeh the greatest comrade of all his revolutionary comrades; Charles Taylor, Qaddafi, Chavez, and Saddam. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Jun 2007 : 12:02:52
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Fitting appeal on LETTER TO THE PRESIDENT: under http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3776
Its a positive step to forward constructive opinions and advices on good governance, respect for rule of law & democracy. However is it not late for a change of attitude and policy to clear the BAD LEGACY
WHO DESERVE ANNESTY ON THESE CRIMINAL ACTS AND CRIMES ALREADY COMMITTED WHOTAKES RESPONSIBILITY FOR JUSTICE PLEAS OF VICTIMS FAMILIES |
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kobo
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bread man
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Posted - 13 Jun 2007 : 10:16:08
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| Karamba you said, quote. "Joy to you Bread Man for beginning to see light out of the long dark tunnel." I saw the light when Jammeh was elected to power and gave us The Gambians what we thought never exixsted. Remember for any construction there must be some destruction brotherman. Jammeh is the guy. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Jun 2007 : 19:32:19
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| Most worrying about that spate of destruction is the extent to which human life is destroyed along. Will anyone still call that a just way of nation building? |
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bread man
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Posted - 13 Jun 2007 : 20:04:48
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| No brotherman, its not worth the human lives and am really sorry for that. I wish these notorios crimes were not attributed to Jammeh and I hope he will shed some light on them if he knew anything, before and afterhand. That will make it a lot easier to defend him as the visionary man he is. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Jun 2007 : 21:15:49
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| In reverse order of criminal justice, Jammeh is GUILTY until he proves himself innocent. His tight lips and heavy tongue on the matter speaks volumes. Why are you not ready to heap these on Jammeh's back yard? The most convincing evidence in record stands that it has always been Jammeh threatening to kill and next comes the KILLINGS. It is amazing that not even one case of the many killings still comes to light. With all the resources dished on the NIA and police SERIOUS CRIME UNIT, their total competence is still not bearing fruit. Is it because they fear the master killer? Bread Man, if you are serious about defending Jammeh, he must stay clean or you stay clear of it for fear of wasting time and mental energy. |
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bread man
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Posted - 13 Jun 2007 : 21:35:45
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| Well, I will reverse you to the real human justice (Innocent until proven guilty) and even if you think Jammeh deserves your reversed kind of justice, it does not fit his profile as the dynamic leader that is delivering his promises to the nation. So the reallity remains, ie there is no humanbeing that can boast about being liked by everybody. Jammeh is not an exception my brother. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Jun 2007 : 22:11:21
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Not the hatred of Jammeh that the issue is about. It the hatred of what he he does. Even the most notorious of criminals pose to enjoy claim of alibi. Murderers know that the law provides a cushion effect to allow them head resting until the truth comes to light. The truth being suppressed, as in Jammeh's case does not mean he is innocent. Gambians know far too much to permit this one escape. It is not a matter of mob justice or REVERSE JUSTICE. Jammeh is keeping quiet and that itself is sufficient mode of speech. You see what I mean. It you you who takes shelter of Jammeh's innocence till he he is proven guilty. Jammeh in his skull and flesh knows he is guilty and that's all the reason for his tight lips and swollen tongue. When these killings are mentioned, Jammeh trembles in shock. Do you wonder why Daily Observer is not responding to these issues? When bones are mentioned in a proverb, you know who is provoked. In this case, the fat bones of your AIDS healer is set vibrating whenever mention is made of such names like Deyda, Koro, Student Rioters, Novemebr 11, Daba Marenah, Foday Makalo, and many more. This is a president who boasts being everyone's president, even the opposition leaders. he says he is the father of the nation. He is regularly informed even about things yet to come. It is baffling to assume that he is not aware. Not only is he aware, he is the commader of these events. The information about all these killings sits somewhere in files and with some human skulls. No amount of secret police life will keep these secrets for ever. |
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