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kobo
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kobo
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 14:58:38
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Integrated and related; Updated Facts on Gambia Topic under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gambia#Media
["Media
Critics have accused the government of restricting free speech. A law passed in 2002 created a commission with the power to issue licenses and imprison journalists; in 2004, additional legislation allowed prison sentences for libel and slander and cancelled all print and broadcasting licenses, forcing media groups to re-register at five times the original cost [2][3].
Three Gambian journalists have been arrested since the coup attempt. It has been suggested that they were imprisoned for criticizing the government's economic policy, or for stating that a former interior minister and security chief was among the plotters. [4] [5]. Newspaper editor Deyda Hydera was shot to death under unexplained circumstances, days after the 2004 legislation took effect.
Licensing fees are high for newspapers and radio stations, and the only nationwide stations are tightly controlled by the government [6].
Reporters Without Borders has accused "President Yahya Jammeh’s police state" of using murder, arson, unlawful arrest and death threats against journalists. [7] ."]
Sana Sabally guilty as guilt of crimes committed?Topic under http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3828
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 : 16:58:01
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Kobo,
You have opened yet another big can of worms. This Jammeh regime is sick to death. Gambians have taken so much for granted with the usual Gambian belief that everything is a matter of time. That time is no longer on our side. We have to sweep this dirty floor and replace it with a decent setting. It is very abnormal to have a gang of bandits misruling a nation for 13 years with deadly weapons pointed at our throat. As a nation, we must all say no to this banditory and blantant cowardice. It has to end, it has to end.
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kobo
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jul 2007 : 17:45:57
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Jammeh is an endangered political animal. Going outside Gambia where aggrieved Ghanaian nationals have good number can be risky. It is not possible for him to travel with a battalion. Even if he does, they dare not fire on an unarmed mob outside Gambia. Jammeh's killer machine can only operate in Gambia. The good bit of this matter is that ordinary Ghanaians and ordinary Gambians are still happy together. A brutal killer is unable to change that. Like Charles, when Jammeh is due for trial, it makes sense to settle the scores for crimes like the Ghana case to be followed by crimes against Gambians. |
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bread man
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Posted - 07 Jul 2007 : 21:27:28
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| Nice dream karamba, but calling an elected leader a criminal is it self criminal. That ignores the will of the majority that voted him in office for the third time. You fail to understand the fact Jammeh is a leader that seeks improvement and wants results, and to be sure of having possitive results in any endeavor demands a little bit of arrogantlike will. Jammeh was/is a soldier and that makes paper politics too slow for him. So as I said earlier am ready to give him a chance to impliment his vission. Since you too are advocating democracy, I suggest you keep the peace and do the same. (give him the chance to do the job he was elected to do). |
It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Jul 2007 : 22:20:44
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Bread Man,
Up to 13 years is more than enough. It is not normal that one continues dragging a whole nation to be buried in the name of trial and error. If you are serious about seeing Gambia advance, stop believing that it takes JUST one man to lead that development. If Jammeh was/is military, that is not the criteria. From what you stated, his pressured dispensation is what Gambians deserve. Can you explain that. We need a more humane mode of dealing. Gambia is and can never be any one person's private farm yard. Are you sure you want Gambians to bear this pressured operation? How long ? |
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bread man
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Posted - 08 Jul 2007 : 22:06:09
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| Karamba, The Gambians deserve even better than Jammeh is delivering and thats the truth. However am very happy with his level of achievement for now. The next leader will have to deal with matters of other issues that Jammeh might have failed, but even that will not befit the willing achievments of all Gambians. In the mean time Jammeh is doing well on many issues although he needs improvement on others. Isn´t that human, my brother?? Perfection only belongs to The Almighty Allah. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Jul 2007 : 22:39:59
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Bread Man,
No word about PERFECTION. The issue is about longevity. Jammeh is not THE MOST competent person to RUN Gambia. Whether he did well or did bad, he's got to be sensible to get out of it IN PEACE rather than IN PIECES. It is wrong for him and anyone to impress on us that we let him go on and on. THAT IS NOT SENSIBLE. The longer he stays, the more his mistakes will outdo his DEVELOPMENTS!! To impose on us leave Jammeh till he is TIRED is one BIG INSULT to every good Gambian. Should Jammeh die today, Gambia is still to go as a nation. What is the reason for his unreasonable long stay? |
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Ebra
Gambia
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Posted - 09 Jul 2007 : 09:21:39
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Bread Man and Karamba thank you both for sharing your views about President Jammeh. As I said earlier before, there has been a mass infrastrutural developments like National TV, good roads, hospital buildings, Banjul modernized, built more schools, University, telecommunications, skill centres, traffic lights, and sponsoring needy students and much more.
However, there are some areas that needs a lot of adjustment. These are prolong detention, disappearance, torturing, and the judiciary system. Securities too should refrain from engaging in unlawful activities, as they are the officers who should be enforcing the laws rather than violating it. I, franky speaking, commend HS Jammeh for his good vision for mother Gambia, but at the same time disapproved the force he used, the way he set up his security forces, and his entire executives. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jul 2007 : 20:47:25
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Ebra,
Jammeh is very unreasonable with Gambians. He came to power by the most uncivil, the most undemocratic passage. It is impossible for the right thinking citizens to pretend about this. In 50 years, these facts remain actively living. The most reasonable thing is for him to get out of it. After he is gone, what competentent Gambians do in taking the country further is none of his business. Jammeh is forcing to remain in power in protection of his stolen wealth. In the process, he is ready to kill and maim. Tell me if that is not true and let me know what better truth you have in stock.
Bread Man
It is only in blood families that nothing changes in a material realistic way. Even within families, those who abuse their limitations are challenged. Incidentally, Jammeh is not a family relation of Gambians he inflicts such untold suffering. It is normal to disown his brutality. That is what genuine citizens are doing. From what you write, Jammeh is unable to take the country any further. That is good reason for him to give up. Brutal force is no solution. Get this clear. Those who refuse to accept being misruled don't deserve what you prefer for them. If you are one of those sharing moments with Jammeh, be fair with him. Will you be there if life goes rough with him? Will you take him through the drastic changes, "for better and for worse?" |
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bread man
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Posted - 09 Jul 2007 : 21:06:28
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Quote from Karamba. "If you are one of those sharing moments with Jammeh, be fair with him. Will you be there if life goes rough with him? Will you take him through the drastic changes, "for better and for worse?""
No am not those that rendevous with H.E. But I am willing to defend my nation against any evil will, and if that is called defending H.E. so be it. Infact I am not just an aprc/Jammeh fan but a fan of democracy and rule of law. jammeh is my employee and as long as he sits on that sit he remains that. Now, if he violated the rights of all Gambians as you suggest, he won´t have being there now. I remain the servant of democracy and just as you hope I also hope that Jammeh will realise his human limitations on time and call it quit when he still commands a lot of respect from the majority of The Gambians that appreciates his good will for The Gambia. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Jul 2007 : 22:00:49
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Bread Man,
Not me suggesting but Jammeh doing. Supposed we all continue keeping quiet, Jammeh is still there doing all that he is doing. Him staying till this day is not premised on popular choice. He is commanding the killer weapons and using them to destroy life and hope. It is not what is written that makes the country this bad. You sound a defender of democracy and rule of law. How do you cope with the gross violation of human rights, rule of and the total failure of democracy ? These are not words. It is the real life of your H.E. How many citizens are detained or killed and not even proper explanation given ? Are you reading other sites and what they have on Jammeh ? Do you believe that all that is written is patched stories? As great supporter of H.E., you have lot to defend. It is sad that all that is happening is still seen by you as the good developments of H.E. Are you aware of the human rights abuses and rampant arrests? Did you know that young students were gunned down in their school uniform (April 10-11, 2000)? Will someone continue the list? Bread Man, as we exchange these postings, fatherless children are crying to know who killed their loving dad? Some families can't locate the burial place of their lost members. Hearts are soaked in grief for the many lost citizens. Will you tell this forum if you know all that and what your stand is? |
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bread man
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Posted - 09 Jul 2007 : 22:22:32
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| I hate the fact that students were gunned down by trigger happy soldiers/butchers. That does not represent my will and if at any time i find evidence that Jammeh gave the orders for that particular event to happen, I will dessist from supporting Jammeh and will hold him responsible for the demise of our nation. A leader that orders the killing of the future leaders of a nation is no good humanbeing let alone a leader. However I am very sure that jammeh had and will never have any thing to do with such animalistic actions against children he so very well championed. My heart relly bleeds with those families and I am begging Jammeh to clear the air around that student massacre. |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 09 Jul 2007 : 23:54:50
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| karamba , i have ceased exchanging views with breadman because the guys doesn't see any evil that yahya is doing ,so it is total waste of time. in as much as jammeh is developming the gambia ,what is the real cost to the average gambian ? looking at infracsture is just baby like. what no one should violate is the right to freedom ,and that is lacking evidently in yahya's brand of criminal democracy. all dictators end up using the slogant i won the election so i have the mandate ,i don't think any body is disputing that .he won by 100% no problem but let him rule through proper methods and obey the constitution .he is not a king .he was voted in office.but killing and jailing without trail that is dictatorship ,i am sure mr breadman wouldn't wish that for a family of his.he has made the gambia like singapore no problem but it is people who are living in the country so treating them with kindness is what is demanded if not ,all that gold structures he ercted will get destroyed. simple logic. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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