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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 09 Apr 2007 : 23:06:20
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Jangjang you were saying that Jamaica's don't recognise their African Roots.  And by the way today many from the African Diaspora community including myself and family were down at Tower Hill to visit or to see the replica of "Zong" the slave ship which throw away 133 Africans into the Thames for insurance purposes. There are Africans still in mental slavery both inside and outside of Africa. Spouting negativity who lack a positive image of themselves and members of their race.
By the way Jangjang you forgot to mention that Jamaica elected its first woman Prime Minister on 30/3/06 Portia Simpson-Miller. Portia Simpson-Miller was elected as the new leader of the governing PNP and succeeded P. J. Patterson.
Here is a link to some of Jamaica's National Heroes who laid down their lives in service of liberating the African Race.
http://www.jis.gov.jm/special_sections/Heroes/Heroes1.htm#Nanny
Peace
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Edited by - Sister Omega on 09 Apr 2007 23:26:21 |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 09 Apr 2007 : 23:32:39
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Originally posted by Jangjang
Hi Dalton,
Please this document on violence in Jamaica and judge for yourself.
http://www.undp.org/rblac/gender/jamaicabigfile.pdf
We dont Gambia to be like that!
Sometime people can shout African unity, Emancipation of Africa, etc to sell their music not in thier hearts. It is another form of exploitation. Just associate with some of these caribeans and see for yourself whether they want anything to do with Africa.
janjang , i too disaggree with the lady omega as you do but i will not involve her country here . that is entirely another issue . jamiaca is a diverse society which is still trying to identify it self with africa in a way. we are one people no matter the misinformation that has been spread among us .yaya is a deadly politicain. i remember recording his voice in the hey days of junta rule saying perfectly that '' politicians are donkeys and lairs .''
he is now an honourary member of the donkey and lairs club.you know all his trusted aids are changed like nickers. i also remember one his lady supporter whose husband per take in the interrogation of innocent gambians telling me in 2004 december that ,they do yaya's marabouts business for him .at that time the man sereign boggal was the main man. this lady went out of her way to tell me '' apart from God it is boggal '' i was shocked but i don't know who boggal was untill i enquired .now boggal is his enemy. let omega be die hard with yaya .we know him and we will deal with him .God willing. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Santanfara
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Posted - 09 Apr 2007 : 23:32:39
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Originally posted by Jangjang
Hi Dalton,
Please this document on violence in Jamaica and judge for yourself.
http://www.undp.org/rblac/gender/jamaicabigfile.pdf
We dont Gambia to be like that!
Sometime people can shout African unity, Emancipation of Africa, etc to sell their music not in thier hearts. It is another form of exploitation. Just associate with some of these caribeans and see for yourself whether they want anything to do with Africa.
janjang , i too disaggree with the lady omega as you do but i will not involve her country here . that is entirely another issue . jamiaca is a diverse society which is still trying to identify it self with africa in a way. we are one people no matter the misinformation that has been spread among us .yaya is a deadly politicain. i remember recording his voice in the hey days of junta rule saying perfectly that '' politicians are donkeys and lairs .''
he is now an honourary member of the donkey and lairs club.you know all his trusted aids are changed like nickers. i also remember one his lady supporter whose husband per take in the interrogation of innocent gambians telling me in 2004 december that ,they do yaya's marabouts business for him .at that time the man sereign boggal was the main man. this lady went out of her way to tell me '' apart from God it is boggal '' i was shocked but i don't know who boggal was untill i enquired .now boggal is his enemy. let omega be die hard with yaya .we know him and we will deal with him .God willing. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 09 Apr 2007 : 23:57:21
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Karamba let's have some mature politics we are aware of the exjudical killings of the above mentioned. I along many voices have spoken out about the students who were murdered whilst participating on 10th April 2001, and also lobbied hard on the net those injured laying seriously wounded to get the treatment they need. Plus linked this and other Gambian websites to the victim's website. Even when the injured were brought to England for treatment I kept up to date with what was occuring plus financially contributed and pasted in a link so that others could contribute to their site via paypal.
As for Deyda Hydara I too was vocal about his assassination and yes we still all want his murders to be brought to justice. The same as the soliders who were responsible for the rape of the student who's violation acted as the catalyst for the student murders on that fatal day. So again don't make presumptions on what I think!
I also know that a President is not always in control and soley responsible for every incident which happens in his/her country. Citizens also bear some responsibility including the Security Forces. Let's keep things real.
There is such a blame culture in Gambia that abdicates responsibility by placing blame on Jammeh as the official scapegoat all the time. Jammeh didn't pull the trigger someone pulled the trigger who pulled it known of us know. But automatically the roamer mill says it was Jammeh. Well when the Brazillian Mendes got shot in London two years by the police. No one shouted Blair pulled the trigger of course he didn't nor was he responsible with a public inquiry no police officer got the sack either!
Also there has been so much political manipulation about April 10th but really I'd like to know who in the opposition actually fundraised to pay for the treatment of the students? I'm aware that the APRC government brought some victims over to Britain for treatment.
Also there is something which still recks of bigotry to me about Jammeh being portrayed as proverbial scapegoat. Is it because he is a Jola? Could it be that his cast with in the cast system of the first Repubic still sticks in the crawl of those who think that a person from a traditionally lower cast is ruling over them when he should be their watchman? Those days are over! Jammeh is the watchman of the nation bringing Gambia kicking and screaming into the 21st Century. As for Koro Cessay We have heard those who have come on line to ease their consciences whilst starting new lives in the west out of arms reach. All these deaths pose more questions than answers because there hasn't been any public inquiry into any of them. But eventually those who murdered them will confess whether in this life or the next. I've heard hell fire is very hot!
Karamba again you have not brought foward any concrete evidence to prove Jammeh was involved in these killings and you still cannot substantiate your claims so they would be classed as hearsay in a court of law, insubmissal evidence, and would be thrown out!
Again taking into account everything you have said and these claims or conspiracy theories are fully known to Gambian people. Jammeh has still been re- elected. On these issues the opposition tried to bring international on Gambia and failed. They will continue to do so with redundant rhetoric and no viable policies to govern the country. After all politics is about policies. If you have no viable policies how can you even consider governance?
Peace
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Edited by - Sister Omega on 10 Apr 2007 00:36:21 |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 09 Apr 2007 : 23:57:21
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Karamba let's have some mature politics we are aware of the exjudical killings of the above mentioned. I along many voices have spoken out about the students who were murdered whilst participating on 10th April 2001, and also lobbied hard on the net those injured laying seriously wounded to get the treatment they need. Plus linked this and other Gambian websites to the victim's website. Even when the injured were brought to England for treatment I kept up to date with what was occuring plus financially contributed and pasted in a link so that others could contribute to their site via paypal.
As for Deyda Hydara I too was vocal about his assassination and yes we still all want his murders to be brought to justice. The same as the soliders who were responsible for the rape of the student who's violation acted as the catalyst for the student murders on that fatal day. So again don't make presumptions on what I think!
I also know that a President is not always in control and soley responsible for every incident which happens in his/her country. Citizens also bear some responsibility including the Security Forces. Let's keep things real.
There is such a blame culture in Gambia that abdicates responsibility by placing blame on Jammeh as the official scapegoat all the time. Jammeh didn't pull the trigger someone pulled the trigger who pulled it known of us know. But automatically the roamer mill says it was Jammeh. Well when the Brazillian Mendes got shot in London two years by the police. No one shouted Blair pulled the trigger of course he didn't nor was he responsible with a public inquiry no police officer got the sack either!
Also there has been so much political manipulation about April 10th but really I'd like to know who in the opposition actually fundraised to pay for the treatment of the students? I'm aware that the APRC government brought some victims over to Britain for treatment.
Also there is something which still recks of bigotry to me about Jammeh being portrayed as proverbial scapegoat. Is it because he is a Jola? Could it be that his cast with in the cast system of the first Repubic still sticks in the crawl of those who think that a person from a traditionally lower cast is ruling over them when he should be their watchman? Those days are over! Jammeh is the watchman of the nation bringing Gambia kicking and screaming into the 21st Century. As for Koro Cessay We have heard those who have come on line to ease their consciences whilst starting new lives in the west out of arms reach. All these deaths pose more questions than answers because there hasn't been any public inquiry into any of them. But eventually those who murdered them will confess whether in this life or the next. I've heard hell fire is very hot!
Karamba again you have not brought foward any concrete evidence to prove Jammeh was involved in these killings and you still cannot substantiate your claims so they would be classed as hearsay in a court of law, insubmissal evidence, and would be thrown out!
Again taking into account everything you have said and these claims or conspiracy theories are fully known to Gambian people. Jammeh has still been re- elected. On these issues the opposition tried to bring international on Gambia and failed. They will continue to do so with redundant rhetoric and no viable policies to govern the country. After all politics is about policies. If you have no viable policies how can you even consider governance?
Peace
Sister Omega
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Edited by - Sister Omega on 10 Apr 2007 00:36:21 |
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2007 : 01:08:47
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OMEGA, OMEGA . you started well but as usual you never fail in tribalising gambian politics. some members here are unknown to you as you are unknown to them. you may be any body and claim to be some body else. we accept every thing you said you are but please for the sake of good dialoque and peaceful co-existence take away tribal remarks in gambian discussions. we in the gambia are intertwine and no one tribe ever control the whole gambia.
if you are familair with the gambian histroy you will certainly find out that each tribe as always have their respective sphere of dominance and control . this is why you have fulado control by fulas ,foni by jolas , banjul by akus and wolofs ,sabaksanjal also by wolofs ,and in the kombos by mandinkas ,wolofs ,some parts jolas ,and so on . so the issue of tribal politics is just a tool yaya use to divdide and rule ,we try in as much as possible to isolate that issue. many countries went up in flames just for that silly subject ,so please sister omega for the sake peace ...the word you are so fond of lay off tribalsim in gambian politics. we count you as a friend of our country along with many other non-gambian members e.g gambaibev, anna ,serenata ,jack,leokat,postman ,meme and the like.
ofcourse you may think i am disarming you of your famous tool in your arsenal but no .its true that tribal politics is dangerous and ugly.
say every thing else we will counter it with some thing better but when you insist on using tribal issues for our dislike of yaya then you lost your marbles their.
what would you say about casamace , a region that the jolas dominate ? yaya is well known to be personate about that region untill hostilities between gambia and senegal are highten . |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2007 : 01:08:47
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OMEGA, OMEGA . you started well but as usual you never fail in tribalising gambian politics. some members here are unknown to you as you are unknown to them. you may be any body and claim to be some body else. we accept every thing you said you are but please for the sake of good dialoque and peaceful co-existence take away tribal remarks in gambian discussions. we in the gambia are intertwine and no one tribe ever control the whole gambia.
if you are familair with the gambian histroy you will certainly find out that each tribe as always have their respective sphere of dominance and control . this is why you have fulado control by fulas ,foni by jolas , banjul by akus and wolofs ,sabaksanjal also by wolofs ,and in the kombos by mandinkas ,wolofs ,some parts jolas ,and so on . so the issue of tribal politics is just a tool yaya use to divdide and rule ,we try in as much as possible to isolate that issue. many countries went up in flames just for that silly subject ,so please sister omega for the sake peace ...the word you are so fond of lay off tribalsim in gambian politics. we count you as a friend of our country along with many other non-gambian members e.g gambaibev, anna ,serenata ,jack,leokat,postman ,meme and the like.
ofcourse you may think i am disarming you of your famous tool in your arsenal but no .its true that tribal politics is dangerous and ugly.
say every thing else we will counter it with some thing better but when you insist on using tribal issues for our dislike of yaya then you lost your marbles their.
what would you say about casamace , a region that the jolas dominate ? yaya is well known to be personate about that region untill hostilities between gambia and senegal are highten . |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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Alhassan
Sweden
813 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2007 : 08:21:18
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Originally posted by Jangjang
Hi Dalton,
Please this document on violence in Jamaica and judge for yourself.
http://www.undp.org/rblac/gender/jamaicabigfile.pdf
We dont Gambia to be like that!
Sometime people can shout African unity, Emancipation of Africa, etc to sell their music not in thier hearts. It is another form of exploitation. Just associate with some of these caribeans and see for yourself whether they want anything to do with Africa.
Jangjang,
Thank you very much for the link. I have said similar things in the past. Now most of us on the forum can judge the difference between we as Africans or Gambians and West Indians.
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Alhassan
Sweden
813 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2007 : 08:21:18
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Originally posted by Jangjang
Hi Dalton,
Please this document on violence in Jamaica and judge for yourself.
http://www.undp.org/rblac/gender/jamaicabigfile.pdf
We dont Gambia to be like that!
Sometime people can shout African unity, Emancipation of Africa, etc to sell their music not in thier hearts. It is another form of exploitation. Just associate with some of these caribeans and see for yourself whether they want anything to do with Africa.
Jangjang,
Thank you very much for the link. I have said similar things in the past. Now most of us on the forum can judge the difference between we as Africans or Gambians and West Indians.
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Jangjang
Austria
62 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2007 : 13:20:59
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Hi Santafara, Omega is medling in the affairs of our dear country and she knows very little of our culture or African culture. It is not enough for Caribeans to read about African culture but they must also feel it and respect it. As the saying goes " A Tree without roots will fall down" . Just look at the recent shootings, drugs, disrespect for elders in the caribean and some de-culturised African in London. No culture MAN. Look at the way she is trying to put our country into flames by talking about tribalism. Gambian people accepted Jammeh regardless of his tribe when he took power from Jawara but after he started killing our people we rejected him. Jammeh is a lair too. All that he promised he never fulfil.Term limit, soldier with a difference, politians are liars, etc
Omega said Jammeh cannot be responsible for the killings but why did he indemified the killers of 10-11th April. Let me ask you Omega, why is nobody still brought to justice for any of the killings since Jammeh took power, if he is not responsible? Why no public enquiry about the murders still now, if Jammeh is not responsible?
If Jammeh brings to justice those who killed the Children, Koro, Deyda, and many more (long list)then he will get the respect he may deserve.
Sis Omega, the Caribeans are fighting for themselve for reparations to those directly affected by the Slave trade like yourselve. Time will tell. |
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Jangjang
Austria
62 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2007 : 13:20:59
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Hi Santafara, Omega is medling in the affairs of our dear country and she knows very little of our culture or African culture. It is not enough for Caribeans to read about African culture but they must also feel it and respect it. As the saying goes " A Tree without roots will fall down" . Just look at the recent shootings, drugs, disrespect for elders in the caribean and some de-culturised African in London. No culture MAN. Look at the way she is trying to put our country into flames by talking about tribalism. Gambian people accepted Jammeh regardless of his tribe when he took power from Jawara but after he started killing our people we rejected him. Jammeh is a lair too. All that he promised he never fulfil.Term limit, soldier with a difference, politians are liars, etc
Omega said Jammeh cannot be responsible for the killings but why did he indemified the killers of 10-11th April. Let me ask you Omega, why is nobody still brought to justice for any of the killings since Jammeh took power, if he is not responsible? Why no public enquiry about the murders still now, if Jammeh is not responsible?
If Jammeh brings to justice those who killed the Children, Koro, Deyda, and many more (long list)then he will get the respect he may deserve.
Sis Omega, the Caribeans are fighting for themselve for reparations to those directly affected by the Slave trade like yourselve. Time will tell. |
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serenata
Germany
1400 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2007 : 15:26:16
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| SisO, really, you surprise me. Organizations like amnesty international, Human Rights Watch, reporters sans frontières research before they start any action. They don't play hazard with their credibility. I think you know what these organizations say about the Gambian president. |
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serenata
Germany
1400 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2007 : 15:26:16
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| SisO, really, you surprise me. Organizations like amnesty international, Human Rights Watch, reporters sans frontières research before they start any action. They don't play hazard with their credibility. I think you know what these organizations say about the Gambian president. |
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Alhassan
Sweden
813 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2007 : 16:28:01
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Originally posted by serenata
SisO, really, you surprise me. Organizations like amnesty international, Human Rights Watch, reporters sans frontières research before they start any action. They don't play hazard with their credibility. I think you know what these organizations say about the Gambian president.
Sister,
We all know what they say about the president. Is all they say true? Are there any evidence to proove them correct? Sometimes these institutions depend on what the bloggers write. I have red too mush lies on the Allgambian.net and the Forum too about Gambia and Jammeh. I even red sometime ago that he arrested Edwar Singateh, Saja taal was dead and all sorts of things.I think most of them depend on what we ourselves say about the country. Remember most of us here are against Jammeh and all possitive postings about him here is not encouraged. We in the diaspora feed these institutions with a pack of lies just to get visas and staying permits in the Us and Europe. Furthermore, some of the said Gambian journlists are not properly schooled from the proper schools.
Sister Omega has her own opinion like everybody else.
I suggest we make proper investigations before we report. We cannot assume all things we report. |
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Alhassan
Sweden
813 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2007 : 16:28:01
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Originally posted by serenata
SisO, really, you surprise me. Organizations like amnesty international, Human Rights Watch, reporters sans frontières research before they start any action. They don't play hazard with their credibility. I think you know what these organizations say about the Gambian president.
Sister,
We all know what they say about the president. Is all they say true? Are there any evidence to proove them correct? Sometimes these institutions depend on what the bloggers write. I have red too mush lies on the Allgambian.net and the Forum too about Gambia and Jammeh. I even red sometime ago that he arrested Edwar Singateh, Saja taal was dead and all sorts of things.I think most of them depend on what we ourselves say about the country. Remember most of us here are against Jammeh and all possitive postings about him here is not encouraged. We in the diaspora feed these institutions with a pack of lies just to get visas and staying permits in the Us and Europe. Furthermore, some of the said Gambian journlists are not properly schooled from the proper schools.
Sister Omega has her own opinion like everybody else.
I suggest we make proper investigations before we report. We cannot assume all things we report. |
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