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toast99
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 24 Feb 2006 : 09:17:41
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| hi Babylon, as of 7pm yesterday she still did not know....I'm hoping that there has been some thought in the decision...I certainly hope that! |
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Babylon
Sweden
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Posted - 24 Feb 2006 : 09:52:37
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| That sounds hopefull, if it takes a longer time for the court to decide than usual, maybe the decision can turn out positive! I´ll keep my fingers crossed. |
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toast99
United Kingdom
34 Posts |
Posted - 24 Feb 2006 : 19:29:25
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| The decision went against our friend in the Immigration Court, but she has been given leave to appeal to the High Court, which must be made by Wed morning. If the appeal is given permission to go ahead she will be bailed to live with us until the hearing. Now her solicitor must pull all the stops out! |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 24 Feb 2006 : 20:50:42
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Let's hope for the best.
Peace Sister Omega |
Peace
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 24 Feb 2006 : 21:23:12
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| May be you might want to use a strategy in which concerned persons can send email to your Rep. especially from the gambian community . |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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toast99
United Kingdom
34 Posts |
Posted - 24 Feb 2006 : 21:30:12
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I have tried that angle Kondorong....I e-mailed her solicitor with the links to both here and my main blog site before the case to impress upon everyone concerned that the case was causing interest and concern, not only in the UK, but further afield.....this may be something to try with the appeal too
thanks, and thanks Sister Omega |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 24 Feb 2006 : 23:09:20
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| What details were you given about WHY it went against her? |
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toast99
United Kingdom
34 Posts |
Posted - 24 Feb 2006 : 23:39:02
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none...you have to remember that she is from a village from outside Banjul....she may have been in the UK for 6 years but she is still a Gambian villager....what she cannot understand is why a woman with three different passports and admitting credit card fraud can be released without charge while she is still incarcerated there....if you are loud enough to intimidate the staff it can bring forth fruit....
the only crumb of comfort is the time taken to make the decision implies a little uncertainty |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 25 Feb 2006 : 01:04:46
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Hi Darling,Gambiabev,
Am back again.First of all I think you don't seem to read all my text.I said in summary I know you (The present generation)are not directly responsible for slavery. BUT BUT Gambiabev think so hard and enlightened your self or I sahll do it 4 you if you let me.
I ofcause have to consider and let you know that I know there are very generous people in the uk I know that but do you think you are doing enough to help?Or don't you still agree with me that you are still(Your governments) responsible 4 Africa's poverty?Look my dear lets face it You control all the markets and value all world currency(Yours ofcause the highest).
Even the produce we get are priced by you.If you genuinly want a balanced, self controlled,self sufficient Africa,then ask yourself
Why do we still have wars?You know we don't make guns(I mean the powerful ones) who supply us to fight each other and how do the guns leave you boarders whe you can control humans from entering.(I mean Europe and America generally).
How can men like Sam Bukari(Commander musquitoe) a mare tailor who knew nothing about military trainings led a rebellion up to the capitalFreetown and controls it withall the gold/diamond mines without external aid where where the Sierra leonian Army?Why can't they stop the rebel advances then?
Why can't you still respond to Africa's cries?
Why are our diamonds and gold that are being smuggled by armed bandits being bought at world markets?
Gambiabev why still aiding currupt and dictatorial Rebels and regemes alike in Africa?(Like Zimbabwe(No.1) Uganda,Ethiopia, DRC,Kenya,Sudan,Libya,Egypt, The Gambia,Nigeria,Niger Unita in Angola, SPLA in Sudan, Charlse Tailor in Liberia,Foday Sanko in Sierra Leone,LRA IN Uganda,ect...Just to name a few?)
It is until resently you started realising that some of those countries I named,are practicing dictatorship( eg:Uganda and Ethiopia).
Brother Gambiabev,I have High respect 4 Twinkly, Toast99 and so many European and American English gentlemen and Women who makes constructive contributions on this web and worldwide oneway or the other including yourself ofcause.But "the neddle that punches the eye,the eye never sees that".
If you see you travel so widely without much restrictions,my friend is because you are either European or American.If you want to come to Africa,how can we stop you when you will bring along the pound which we need so badly 4 our foreign exchange?You made us poor,control our lives and uses us like robots still.When we used to pay tax to His/Her Majesty(During colonial days),you never had doubts we were genuin but why do you doubt us now?
I know we have to forge ahead and forget about the past I agree with you on that but you keep reminding us of the past so how can we forget it?
Gambiabev for God's shake she unly needs medical atention.You travel to the Gambia and if do care about us,Then next time,tell your friend in the Gambia to take you to the Royal Victoria Teaching Hospital(The only hospital you compensated us with for our lives's circrefices to Her Majesty's Army during the world war11)There is not even PARACETAMOL there my brother.People die of malaria while receiving treatments at the Hospital so how can someone who is here already where you can get the best medications in the world be sent back to poor disease stricken country to die?Think my broother think.
Despite she has over stayed which is against the rules I agree but be more human(I don't mean you in perticular,I mean you generally).
I know if she was a professor of medicine who is rated as the best in the world with possible scientific knowledge about the possible proof of how to cure breast cencer,or bird flue,or Aids,there will not be a question of whether she has overstaued or how long she has been here proof me wrong.I have lived here 4 a while and I know what I am talking about.
Toast99 Please if only you know what you are doing,You will continue to have more energy to keep it up.You are really a saint and your reward is coming from above.Thank God there mignt be some hope still.
I have to still doubt if she will be really sent back.FGM FGM why would she be allowed to go and face it if she didn't want to?Is she no human?Why would the british taxpayers care 4 terrorists like the London wouldbe bumbers(second one) and inciters of terrorism like Abou Katada and other would couldn't be deported because they are believed to face toture in their countries when they are returned?
Ya but they can stay and incite 4 the killing of the peace loving British and be fed by the taxpayers while a young promising girl who posses no treat shouldn't stay.What a morkery of the system you set up 4 everyone to follow.Remember the Human right charter was drafted and planned by mostly British experts so why the micky mouse game.Come-on Uncle David, allow the girl to stay and have a peace of mind.Don't send her to her grave.Toast99 I wish you are my blood brother.God bless you.
Now Sister darling Gambiabev,..Yaya Jammeh cannot help us because you are not directly helping the people.Instead you give him aid to get more and more powerful .
Being the world super powers,why would you leave African leaders to tramp on their people until we live like nothing and go after Sadam because he has attacked a village and massacred people? Using billions and billions of pounds, Dollars and even your soldiers' lives?Just to keep one country democratic.Is it about democracy only?OR....THE BIG THING OIL OIL OIL?
What about countries you once used as your resting places(your former colonies)?Why would you abandon them now with brutal savages,murdering them day and nights.We are now destitutes Gambiabev you know that because you've been to the Gambia.We have no rights in our countries and have norights nowhere.Please give us santuary...SAVIOURS...please let her stay Join us to help her.Let her not be Annother African deported like the Malawian Mother and her childreen.
Now so much for that 4 I may be hurting my many British and American friends and they might think of me differently but I just want to enlighten about realities in Africa.
Peace 4 uk,Europe,Africa Asia,America and the world.
I love the British people(thats a fact but we need to "squeese"(my English 4 you) each other.
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 25 Feb 2006 : 02:44:09
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Janyanfara democracy is a system that takes time to evolve. It is not a system that can be imposed from the outside. Africa since 1960's has had too much external forces interfering within its internal policies because ex-colonial powers of West Europe and the emergence of the US as a super power have continued to focus their attention on controlling the world resources by any means necessary.
Obviously Britain is a small Island cannot host the whole world on it shores, and there does need to be ethical immigration controls. At least there is room for manouver in the case of our Gambian sister on humanitarian grounds giving for her the opportunity to launch a successful appeal, and hopefully be granted a indefinite leave to remain within a country she considers her home where she has a proper support system to assist in meeting her basic needs without the constant threat of being forced to have FGM against her will,and to receive the apprioprate medical care she needs to relieve her condition. Being disabled doesn't mean that she cannot contribute to society, and if she is given opportunity to education and training she can also be a productive member of British society within her own limits.
I don't buy into the concept of hopeless Africans for there are unsung heroes and sheroes in every society who make the best of what means they have at their disposal in every society no matter how much or little that maybe, they still retain their dignity.
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 25 Feb 2006 : 10:28:53
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Janyanfara...darling, dearest brother Are you trying to sweet talk me in that lovely charming Gambian way...or are you patronising me??!!
I would like to visit the Rotal Victoria Hospital to report back on conditions to my womens group (SI).... When I go with the large group of students it is not possible. How easy would it be for me to arrange a visit?
I have been to Kwinella health centre. I am very impressed with the staff there. But they are also suffering as the wage stays low and prices rise........ it must be tempting to leave the country.
At Kwinella there was very little medication.... the childrens medication was provided by unicef, which was good to see. They now have bikes and cool boxes, so they can get out to the villagers in need rather than the villagers having to walk to Kwinella. This is a brilliant improvement.
When I stayed at Kotu last time I was very touched by a young hotel worker who had terrible tooth ache and the hotel had NO medication at all. I gave him some pain relief from my 1st aid kit. At the end of our stay I asked ALL 100 students to leave behind with me and medication they didnt need at home. I gave it to the pool staff to share at work. I made sure everything had its original box and went through all the things and what they were to be used for.
At the hotel they gave the staff first aid training and then gave them no equipment!!!!!!
I am trying to arrange to send a container to Kolior this year. It will have school equipment, medication, bikes....... any other suggestions for useful things to take from uk to Gambia?
I have already got the certificate needed at the port to import goods for the charity purposes...any advice about what else I need to do? I am hoping to do it around October time.
Also THINKING about driving a truck of stuff overland.....what is the best route? Any restrictions on bringing stuff in that way???? |
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Formby
United Kingdom
246 Posts |
Posted - 25 Feb 2006 : 12:30:30
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| I'm very sorry to hear the news Toast. When is the appeal to be heard or don't you know yet? |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 27 Feb 2006 : 23:28:21
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Is there any further news? I hope she doesnt have to wait too long to know her fate...waiting must be awful. |
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toast99
United Kingdom
34 Posts |
Posted - 28 Feb 2006 : 08:29:09
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the appeal is presented tomorrow....if the judge thinks it has merit it will be heard eventually at the High Court and she will be bailed until then.....if not she will be immediately deported.....she is being examined by an immigration doctor today to verify her condition
thanks to all concerned, and I have e-mailed some of your links Sister Omega....thank you, Toast99 |
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