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Dalton1
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 Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 04:46:47
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(Courtesy of Allgambian)
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NEWS
LAWYER DARBOE SPARKS NADD CLUSTERS IN CHICAGO
By Yero Jallow
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September 3, 2005
Lawyer Ousainou Darboe, executive member for NADD and leader of the United Democratic Party was among many others at the Chicago annual summit. It is noted that Darboe is still on his visit going around the different states meeting Gambians and selling the NADD agenda.
In a phone conversation with Joe Sambou, Midwest coordinator for Save The Gambia Democracy Project, he described the program as very successful and beyond the expectation of the attendees. According to Joe, it wasn't easy for Darboe but he vehemently spoke NADD volumes and everyone was pleased the way Darboe was answering questions from the floor. "It looks like Gambians all over the U.S are ready to tell the coalition executives the truth and that really works", pointed Joe. Joe also pointed out few cases that look confrontational but he was quick to add that it can be understood that a leader should be ready to face all challenges.
Darboe, whose speech was centered on "building and sustaining democracy in the Gambia" advised Gambians and non-Gambians alike in Chicago that NADD have a program and a NADD leader will strictly work under NADD guidelines. This totally dismiss the rumours as was reported mid-last month on the daily observer by Ibrima Jaw Manneh that Darboe and UDP were backing out of the coalition. Joe in another note said "To be honest, Darboe spoke strictly on NADD and avoided any statement that look conflicting in interest". In ending his speech, Darboe also restored confidence and hope to the people, dismissing newsmonger that the UDP will back out from the coalition.
Other attendees included Dr. Saine, pioneer of Save The Gambia Democracy Project and Dr. Aisha Hakim, Executive director for African connection.
Allgambian is in effort to get details of the whole session at Chicago and coverage will be extended to Minnesota where he is due for Tomorrow to address a huge number of Gambians.
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dbaldeh
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 04:47:59
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The bebate about NADD's split will continue and some people will always choose to read between the lines to identify with this statement or that. We should all read whatever is written with an open eye and critique it with a positive intend to move forward.
I read Sidibeh's analysis over and over, printed it and wants to response to key areas and points. I however, can honestly conclude that he made an independent analysis of the NADD collapse. He did not hesitate to point fingers at Halifa where he saw fit, he called Darboe on his weak points, and lay blame on all of them where he identified as their collective responsibility.
For the records I want to point out that Sidibeh has been a rival of Halifa Sallah and challenged him several times in the past. So to sit here and acuse him of siding with Sallah is dishonest and misleading.
Everyone of the NADD members had their own role that they played as individuals and as a group. Each and everyone of them should be accountable for what happened.
Halifa played an aggressive role in representing the interest of the smaller parties with a vision to an equal playing field. One may interpret this as bias if one so desires. He agreed to be selected as flagbearer which put him in a spot to be criticized by his opponents. He has his own responsibilities in NADD's role.
Darboe had a huge responsibility and probably more explanation to do as a result of walking away from the heat. He will for the rest of his life be followed by the position he took which has always been a sign of regret for getting into something in the first place.
He probably had a bigger task and role to play since he was seen as the man representing the majority party. His stand was never taken lightly. Where he failed terribly is the fact that he failed to represent the interest of his party. He was mute and intimidated by the mere presents of Halifa as Sidibeh put it. A strong leader shall never be intimidated by another persons intellectual ability to put across his points. Showing signs of weakness, Darboe could not help it but find a save place to retreat.
Hamat Bah actually let the cat out of the bad when he mentioned that they argeed to be equal when they were not. It is the most honest disclosure we ever had after the break up and it is what led to the breakup. He Hamat he a very important role to play and he could have been the uniting factor in that group. Obviously he was more vocal than Darboe and could have represented the bigger parties better. There was still room for unity until Hamat broke ranks with NADD. That led to a new relation base on convenience without any discussion or formality whatsover.
As for Waa Juwara, we know what role he played. He was responsible for his own actions and no one could have sensored him. He brought his conflict with Darboe to NADD which was really not very helpful. NADD underestimated the division and intimidation WAA was sitting on especially towards Darobe. If all went well, he would have been insignificant, but it was evident that once things started to go wrong in levied the blamed on his long term enemy Darboe.
Once again Darboe could have brought the attention of the the executive to his discomfort with WAA's smear tactics. No one can protect him. He ought to be able to fight for his sole and stop the endless harrassment by WAA. He decided to mute about it and look for cover. Another sign of weakness.
As for OJ, we all know he played politics when it was necessary. When it is time for nomination anywhere especially when there is likely to be votes, it is perfectly fine for one to lobby. He may have lobbied in darkness but that is what politics is all about. Atlest we know he influence Dulo Bah to second his nomination. OJ's move was purely politics and we could never take that away from politics.
The question I have is the role other members played while they were part of the executive. Where was Yahya Jallow when UDP's interest was not being represented? Where was Hassan Musa Camara the Chairman of NADD? Was he expecting to be selected too as a flagbearer? Is that why he left in the middle of the game? Where were others who were a part of the team and what role did they play?
We can point fingers here and there all over the place. The fact remains that the opposition collectively failed us and the Gambian people. They knew individually they could not do anything without the support of other parties regardless of whether you were bigger or smaller. Therefore, size and piece of the cake should either have been dealt with thoroughly from the begining or be put aside for the interest of the Gambian people.
There is still hope, but as Sidibeh put it, the current leadership cannot address the problem on their own. We should however, include them in future negotiations but not in the capacity of selected as leaders. There are enough Gambian intellectuals to be presidential candidates. With another opportunity we can probably make a difference.
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dbaldeh
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 04:47:59
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The bebate about NADD's split will continue and some people will always choose to read between the lines to identify with this statement or that. We should all read whatever is written with an open eye and critique it with a positive intend to move forward.
I read Sidibeh's analysis over and over, printed it and wants to response to key areas and points. I however, can honestly conclude that he made an independent analysis of the NADD collapse. He did not hesitate to point fingers at Halifa where he saw fit, he called Darboe on his weak points, and lay blame on all of them where he identified as their collective responsibility.
For the records I want to point out that Sidibeh has been a rival of Halifa Sallah and challenged him several times in the past. So to sit here and acuse him of siding with Sallah is dishonest and misleading.
Everyone of the NADD members had their own role that they played as individuals and as a group. Each and everyone of them should be accountable for what happened.
Halifa played an aggressive role in representing the interest of the smaller parties with a vision to an equal playing field. One may interpret this as bias if one so desires. He agreed to be selected as flagbearer which put him in a spot to be criticized by his opponents. He has his own responsibilities in NADD's role.
Darboe had a huge responsibility and probably more explanation to do as a result of walking away from the heat. He will for the rest of his life be followed by the position he took which has always been a sign of regret for getting into something in the first place.
He probably had a bigger task and role to play since he was seen as the man representing the majority party. His stand was never taken lightly. Where he failed terribly is the fact that he failed to represent the interest of his party. He was mute and intimidated by the mere presents of Halifa as Sidibeh put it. A strong leader shall never be intimidated by another persons intellectual ability to put across his points. Showing signs of weakness, Darboe could not help it but find a save place to retreat.
Hamat Bah actually let the cat out of the bad when he mentioned that they argeed to be equal when they were not. It is the most honest disclosure we ever had after the break up and it is what led to the breakup. He Hamat he a very important role to play and he could have been the uniting factor in that group. Obviously he was more vocal than Darboe and could have represented the bigger parties better. There was still room for unity until Hamat broke ranks with NADD. That led to a new relation base on convenience without any discussion or formality whatsover.
As for Waa Juwara, we know what role he played. He was responsible for his own actions and no one could have sensored him. He brought his conflict with Darboe to NADD which was really not very helpful. NADD underestimated the division and intimidation WAA was sitting on especially towards Darobe. If all went well, he would have been insignificant, but it was evident that once things started to go wrong in levied the blamed on his long term enemy Darboe.
Once again Darboe could have brought the attention of the the executive to his discomfort with WAA's smear tactics. No one can protect him. He ought to be able to fight for his sole and stop the endless harrassment by WAA. He decided to mute about it and look for cover. Another sign of weakness.
As for OJ, we all know he played politics when it was necessary. When it is time for nomination anywhere especially when there is likely to be votes, it is perfectly fine for one to lobby. He may have lobbied in darkness but that is what politics is all about. Atlest we know he influence Dulo Bah to second his nomination. OJ's move was purely politics and we could never take that away from politics.
The question I have is the role other members played while they were part of the executive. Where was Yahya Jallow when UDP's interest was not being represented? Where was Hassan Musa Camara the Chairman of NADD? Was he expecting to be selected too as a flagbearer? Is that why he left in the middle of the game? Where were others who were a part of the team and what role did they play?
We can point fingers here and there all over the place. The fact remains that the opposition collectively failed us and the Gambian people. They knew individually they could not do anything without the support of other parties regardless of whether you were bigger or smaller. Therefore, size and piece of the cake should either have been dealt with thoroughly from the begining or be put aside for the interest of the Gambian people.
There is still hope, but as Sidibeh put it, the current leadership cannot address the problem on their own. We should however, include them in future negotiations but not in the capacity of selected as leaders. There are enough Gambian intellectuals to be presidential candidates. With another opportunity we can probably make a difference.
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Dalton1
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 04:57:00
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Demba,
to be honest, i read and re-read Sidibeh's piece. History couldn't have recorded it any better.Only the truth will lead to true reconciliation of the matter. No distractor can kill the topic with or without intent/interest in it. We will posting a lot of achrived pieces.
(Courtesy of Allgambian)
NEWS
I’M FULLY COMMITTED TO NADD & WILL CAMPAIGN VIGOROUSLY FOR ANY CHOSEN CANDIDATE- Lawyer Darboe Tells Gambians in Atlanta
By Ebrima G. Sankareh, USA
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August 30, 2005
Atlanta, Georgia—Twice Presidential contender and leader of the opposition United Democratic Party (UDP), lawyer Ousainou Darboe has expressed unequivocally, total support for the National Alliance for Democracy & Development in The Gambia (NADD). Addressing a crowd of anxious Gambians on Friday at Ndow’s Photo Studios in downtown Atlanta, an urbane lawyer Darboe assured Gambians that there was no turning back from NADD. “It took 15 months to draft the protocols for the adoption of NADD following the hard work and bargaining of all parties and we all deserve commendation for the creation of this alliance” he said. Mr. Darboe’s much awaited clarification came in the wake of intense controversy that NADD was in tatters. Until his reassuring statement, there was a combustible combination of rumor, misinformation and speculation of a chasm among the opposition parties which did not anchor well with Gambians who want to see an end to the dictatorship in the mini-West African state.
Responding to a question from the crowd, lawyer Darboe said while all opposition officials were qualified to run for the presidency, whoever is chosen, must be a saleable candidate. Pressed on what that means, he said, the chosen candidate must be a household name. He invoked Halifa Sallah and Omar Jallow to punctuate his point of what really constitutes a household name. Asked if he will support any candidate, Darboe said “I will support and campaign vigorously for any candidate chosen by NADD much more than I would do for myself”. However, he was quick to point out that whoever is chosen, if the process remains fraudulent and unfair, even the most popular candidate will not win”.
On the genesis of NADD, lawyer Darboe explains that “the need for NADD arose following the abolition of the second round of voting when it dawned on us that a united front was the best option”. He urged Gambians to rally behind NADD for the restoration of the rule of law, human rights and basic freedoms that have all dissipated since the July 22nd 1994 coup. “We were the most peaceful, accommodating and tolerant people until that fateful day when our freedoms as a people were seized by the military” he charged. Lawyer Ousainou Darboe also appealed to Diasporans to financially support Save the Gambia Democracy Project (STGDP), the Atlanta headquartered association of Gambians that sponsored NADD’s recent US tour. Argued Darboe, “unlike President Jammeh who uses money to corrupt the electorate, NADD uses its funds to reach out to the remotest hamlet in the countryside”. He lambasted Jammeh for his flamboyant styles and told the crowd that during his last trip here “President Jammeh paid $6000 (US) during a dental visit and gave out $20,000 (US) tip to the staff much to the amazement of the dentist himself”.
Mr. Kebba Foon of STGDP chaired the meeting, which lasted until the we hours of Saturday morning. Mr. Kebba Jallow former Chairman of the Kanifing Municipality gave a rousing welcome to lawyer Darboe describing him as a selfless and patriotic Gambian who has a reputation of a human rights lawyer from the historic treason trials of 1981 to the present. Mr. Jallow told Gambians to support any one chosen to unseat the APRC come 2006. The Atlanta meeting, a sequel to the New York one may now help abate the tension and controversy thus far, fuelled further, by local news reports and silence among the major actors in the whole political melodrama.
In tandem with journalistic ethics the above report was read to lawyer Darboe. He described it as a true reflection of what he said in Atlanta and proceeded to grant this reporter an exclusive interview. Below we reproduce the telephone interview with lawyer Darboe from his brother’s home in Washington, DC.
The Point: Mr. Darboe what else do you want to add to the above report?
Darboe: I am grateful to Hassan Musa Camara for his diligence and commitment to our movement for peaceful democratic change. It was Mr. Camara’s efforts that led to the GPP/UDP/PPP/ alliance in the 2001 elections. I see NADD as an extension of Mr. Camara’s laudable efforts in this endeavour. He is doing an outstanding job in The Gambia.
The Point: Why here now after the NADD delegation returned- I thought you were sent an air ticket together with Waa, Halifa, Amat and OJ?
Darboe: I am here at my own expense, on a private family visit.
The Point: What do you hope to fix and or achieve in one five-year term as President?
Darboe: I hope to have laid a solid foundation for a democratic culture of transparency, rule of law and good governance. Simultaneously, a tangible economic Programme would be in place for the nation’s economic take off which will permeate the social sector.
The Point: As a lawyer who is in full time politics, what would you want to be remembered for most, your legacy?
Darboe: Strengthening of the independence of the judiciary & rule of law. As you know, the judiciary is my main constituency so really I would want to leave behind as my legacy a completely independent judiciary; not just theoretically but practically. Also, a culture of tolerance and consultation among government, civil society and society in general.
The Point: Your colleague, OJ categorically told the BBC that it tantamount to political suicide for any party to leave NADD- do you feel the same?
Darboe: The UDP entered NADD with no inducement or coercion and is at liberty to leave NADD and we have never contemplated leaving NADD.I therefore think the statement was uncalled for, it was ill considered.
The Point: Given the Supreme Court’s verdict, would you say it was a fatal legal-cum-political miscalculation to register NADD and not otherwise?
Darboe: This is purely based on human feeling. Every organization is man made and man is prone to make mistakes. Frankly speaking, it was not within our contemplation that NADD’s registration would produce the effects it has produced.
The Point: What worries you most about The Gambia?
Darboe: The security situation is most worrisome. Recently, 8-12 bodies were discovered in the outskirts of the village of Brufut. How they came by their death remains at best a mystery. The situation is not what we want. For the past ten years such deaths have become common. Recently, your colleague Deyda Hydara was killed in gruesome circumstances and to date, no one has been charged with his death. Crimes such as Deyda’s death have attracted international attention, which is not good for the country’s image. So the security situation is really worrying to me.
The Point: The idea of a running mate was sold to the NADD delegation here. Has this been discussed yet and how do you see the idea of a running mate?
Darboe: Frankly, whatever I say here is my personal opinion. We have not yet discussed the issue and it will be premature for me to give a verdict.
The point: Finally, your relation with all NADD parties?
Darboe: Warm, just fine.
The Point: Thank you very much for the patience and respect shown, I wish you good luck and have a good night.
Darboe: Thank you so much for your work.
What remains to be seen now is the selection of a NADD leader for the 2006 elections.
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Dalton1
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 04:57:00
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Demba,
to be honest, i read and re-read Sidibeh's piece. History couldn't have recorded it any better.Only the truth will lead to true reconciliation of the matter. No distractor can kill the topic with or without intent/interest in it. We will posting a lot of achrived pieces.
(Courtesy of Allgambian)
NEWS
I’M FULLY COMMITTED TO NADD & WILL CAMPAIGN VIGOROUSLY FOR ANY CHOSEN CANDIDATE- Lawyer Darboe Tells Gambians in Atlanta
By Ebrima G. Sankareh, USA
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August 30, 2005
Atlanta, Georgia—Twice Presidential contender and leader of the opposition United Democratic Party (UDP), lawyer Ousainou Darboe has expressed unequivocally, total support for the National Alliance for Democracy & Development in The Gambia (NADD). Addressing a crowd of anxious Gambians on Friday at Ndow’s Photo Studios in downtown Atlanta, an urbane lawyer Darboe assured Gambians that there was no turning back from NADD. “It took 15 months to draft the protocols for the adoption of NADD following the hard work and bargaining of all parties and we all deserve commendation for the creation of this alliance” he said. Mr. Darboe’s much awaited clarification came in the wake of intense controversy that NADD was in tatters. Until his reassuring statement, there was a combustible combination of rumor, misinformation and speculation of a chasm among the opposition parties which did not anchor well with Gambians who want to see an end to the dictatorship in the mini-West African state.
Responding to a question from the crowd, lawyer Darboe said while all opposition officials were qualified to run for the presidency, whoever is chosen, must be a saleable candidate. Pressed on what that means, he said, the chosen candidate must be a household name. He invoked Halifa Sallah and Omar Jallow to punctuate his point of what really constitutes a household name. Asked if he will support any candidate, Darboe said “I will support and campaign vigorously for any candidate chosen by NADD much more than I would do for myself”. However, he was quick to point out that whoever is chosen, if the process remains fraudulent and unfair, even the most popular candidate will not win”.
On the genesis of NADD, lawyer Darboe explains that “the need for NADD arose following the abolition of the second round of voting when it dawned on us that a united front was the best option”. He urged Gambians to rally behind NADD for the restoration of the rule of law, human rights and basic freedoms that have all dissipated since the July 22nd 1994 coup. “We were the most peaceful, accommodating and tolerant people until that fateful day when our freedoms as a people were seized by the military” he charged. Lawyer Ousainou Darboe also appealed to Diasporans to financially support Save the Gambia Democracy Project (STGDP), the Atlanta headquartered association of Gambians that sponsored NADD’s recent US tour. Argued Darboe, “unlike President Jammeh who uses money to corrupt the electorate, NADD uses its funds to reach out to the remotest hamlet in the countryside”. He lambasted Jammeh for his flamboyant styles and told the crowd that during his last trip here “President Jammeh paid $6000 (US) during a dental visit and gave out $20,000 (US) tip to the staff much to the amazement of the dentist himself”.
Mr. Kebba Foon of STGDP chaired the meeting, which lasted until the we hours of Saturday morning. Mr. Kebba Jallow former Chairman of the Kanifing Municipality gave a rousing welcome to lawyer Darboe describing him as a selfless and patriotic Gambian who has a reputation of a human rights lawyer from the historic treason trials of 1981 to the present. Mr. Jallow told Gambians to support any one chosen to unseat the APRC come 2006. The Atlanta meeting, a sequel to the New York one may now help abate the tension and controversy thus far, fuelled further, by local news reports and silence among the major actors in the whole political melodrama.
In tandem with journalistic ethics the above report was read to lawyer Darboe. He described it as a true reflection of what he said in Atlanta and proceeded to grant this reporter an exclusive interview. Below we reproduce the telephone interview with lawyer Darboe from his brother’s home in Washington, DC.
The Point: Mr. Darboe what else do you want to add to the above report?
Darboe: I am grateful to Hassan Musa Camara for his diligence and commitment to our movement for peaceful democratic change. It was Mr. Camara’s efforts that led to the GPP/UDP/PPP/ alliance in the 2001 elections. I see NADD as an extension of Mr. Camara’s laudable efforts in this endeavour. He is doing an outstanding job in The Gambia.
The Point: Why here now after the NADD delegation returned- I thought you were sent an air ticket together with Waa, Halifa, Amat and OJ?
Darboe: I am here at my own expense, on a private family visit.
The Point: What do you hope to fix and or achieve in one five-year term as President?
Darboe: I hope to have laid a solid foundation for a democratic culture of transparency, rule of law and good governance. Simultaneously, a tangible economic Programme would be in place for the nation’s economic take off which will permeate the social sector.
The Point: As a lawyer who is in full time politics, what would you want to be remembered for most, your legacy?
Darboe: Strengthening of the independence of the judiciary & rule of law. As you know, the judiciary is my main constituency so really I would want to leave behind as my legacy a completely independent judiciary; not just theoretically but practically. Also, a culture of tolerance and consultation among government, civil society and society in general.
The Point: Your colleague, OJ categorically told the BBC that it tantamount to political suicide for any party to leave NADD- do you feel the same?
Darboe: The UDP entered NADD with no inducement or coercion and is at liberty to leave NADD and we have never contemplated leaving NADD.I therefore think the statement was uncalled for, it was ill considered.
The Point: Given the Supreme Court’s verdict, would you say it was a fatal legal-cum-political miscalculation to register NADD and not otherwise?
Darboe: This is purely based on human feeling. Every organization is man made and man is prone to make mistakes. Frankly speaking, it was not within our contemplation that NADD’s registration would produce the effects it has produced.
The Point: What worries you most about The Gambia?
Darboe: The security situation is most worrisome. Recently, 8-12 bodies were discovered in the outskirts of the village of Brufut. How they came by their death remains at best a mystery. The situation is not what we want. For the past ten years such deaths have become common. Recently, your colleague Deyda Hydara was killed in gruesome circumstances and to date, no one has been charged with his death. Crimes such as Deyda’s death have attracted international attention, which is not good for the country’s image. So the security situation is really worrying to me.
The Point: The idea of a running mate was sold to the NADD delegation here. Has this been discussed yet and how do you see the idea of a running mate?
Darboe: Frankly, whatever I say here is my personal opinion. We have not yet discussed the issue and it will be premature for me to give a verdict.
The point: Finally, your relation with all NADD parties?
Darboe: Warm, just fine.
The Point: Thank you very much for the patience and respect shown, I wish you good luck and have a good night.
Darboe: Thank you so much for your work.
What remains to be seen now is the selection of a NADD leader for the 2006 elections.
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Bronx
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 05:12:50
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Yero,
I am not trying to distract anyone. I agree with baldeh's summary of what happened.Unlike you and your journalist wannabe friends, he laid the blame on the collective. That is objective in my view. You were a stenographer all along. Own up to it. You can regurgitate the archives till kingdom cometh: It doesn't change the fact that all parties to NADD failed us. You want to lay the blame at the hands of a single entity. That is my beef with you. I know you are a halifarite, but that shouldn't blind you to the dismal way he and the rest of the leadership failed on this mission.
I am of the belief that all opposition leaders that were party to that disaster should gracefully exit the stage for new blood. |
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Bronx
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159 Posts |
Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 05:12:50
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Yero,
I am not trying to distract anyone. I agree with baldeh's summary of what happened.Unlike you and your journalist wannabe friends, he laid the blame on the collective. That is objective in my view. You were a stenographer all along. Own up to it. You can regurgitate the archives till kingdom cometh: It doesn't change the fact that all parties to NADD failed us. You want to lay the blame at the hands of a single entity. That is my beef with you. I know you are a halifarite, but that shouldn't blind you to the dismal way he and the rest of the leadership failed on this mission.
I am of the belief that all opposition leaders that were party to that disaster should gracefully exit the stage for new blood. |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 05:23:38
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quote:
Originally posted by Bronx
Yero,
I am not trying to distract anyone. I agree with baldeh's summary of what happened.Unlike you and your journalist wannabe friends, he laid the blame on the collective. That is objective in my view. You were a stenographer all along. Own up to it. You can regurgitate the archives till kingdom cometh: It doesn't change the fact that all parties to NADD failed us. You want to lay the blame at the hands of a single entity. That is my beef with you. I know you are a halifarite, but that shouldn't blind you to the dismal way he and the rest of the leadership failed on this mission.
I am of the belief that all opposition leaders that were party to that disaster should gracefully exit the stage for new blood.
Good! i don't have beef with any one, including you or any. No mistake, a true halifarite, but nothing wrong in my view being one. As long as one is truly independent. i am of an independent mind.
If it is mild, allow me agree with you that all the coalition, in one way or the other failed us. Lets encourage the debate to move on, and a lot of things will unfold.
Dalton
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Dalton1
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 05:23:38
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quote:
Originally posted by Bronx
Yero,
I am not trying to distract anyone. I agree with baldeh's summary of what happened.Unlike you and your journalist wannabe friends, he laid the blame on the collective. That is objective in my view. You were a stenographer all along. Own up to it. You can regurgitate the archives till kingdom cometh: It doesn't change the fact that all parties to NADD failed us. You want to lay the blame at the hands of a single entity. That is my beef with you. I know you are a halifarite, but that shouldn't blind you to the dismal way he and the rest of the leadership failed on this mission.
I am of the belief that all opposition leaders that were party to that disaster should gracefully exit the stage for new blood.
Good! i don't have beef with any one, including you or any. No mistake, a true halifarite, but nothing wrong in my view being one. As long as one is truly independent. i am of an independent mind.
If it is mild, allow me agree with you that all the coalition, in one way or the other failed us. Lets encourage the debate to move on, and a lot of things will unfold.
Dalton
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
1382 Posts |
Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 17:32:47
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His stand was never taken lightly. Where he failed terribly is the fact that he failed to represent the interest of his party. He was mute and intimidated by the mere presents of Halifa as Sidibeh put it. A strong leader shall never be intimidated by another persons intellectual ability to put across his points.
Who in his right mind would say Halifa is more educated than Darboe? Why would Darboe be intellectually intimidated by Halifa. He just don't want to waste his time arguing with people who are hell-bent in undermining him and his party. That's all.
I think some people are better off having a break from this forum because they are not fit for purpose.
As far as I know, the decision to pull-out from NADD was taken by UDP Executive, and without regret.
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 17:32:47
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His stand was never taken lightly. Where he failed terribly is the fact that he failed to represent the interest of his party. He was mute and intimidated by the mere presents of Halifa as Sidibeh put it. A strong leader shall never be intimidated by another persons intellectual ability to put across his points.
Who in his right mind would say Halifa is more educated than Darboe? Why would Darboe be intellectually intimidated by Halifa. He just don't want to waste his time arguing with people who are hell-bent in undermining him and his party. That's all.
I think some people are better off having a break from this forum because they are not fit for purpose.
As far as I know, the decision to pull-out from NADD was taken by UDP Executive, and without regret.
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dbaldeh
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 18:04:14
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Originally posted by Nyarikangbanna
His stand was never taken lightly. Where he failed terribly is the fact that he failed to represent the interest of his party. He was mute and intimidated by the mere presents of Halifa as Sidibeh put it. A strong leader shall never be intimidated by another persons intellectual ability to put across his points.
Who in his right mind would say Halifa is more educated than Darboe? Why would Darboe be intellectually intimidated by Halifa. He just don't want to waste his time arguing with people who are hell-bent in undermining him and his party. That's all.
I think some people are better off having a break from this forum because they are not fit for purpose.
As far as I know, the decision to pull-out from NADD was taken by UDP Executive, and without regret.
thanks
Here you go again with your narrow mindedness. No one said Halifa is more educated than Darboe. Quote the statement where anyone mentioned that. The fact is that level of education does not matter here. What I did was to simply talk about a statement where Sidibeh said Darboe may have been intimidated by Halifa's presents. That is the reason I mention that statement.
Until you take the personal stuff away from this debate you will always be defensive when you read anything on the forum. For once have an open mind and take away the personaility stuff.
You cannot make anyone to take a break from this forum. If my postings are intimidating to you? may be you need to take a hike and find a save heaven to retreat. The forum is meant for different ideas and view points. This is not a one way street so take it or leave it.
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Baldeh,
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dbaldeh
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 18:04:14
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quote:
Originally posted by Nyarikangbanna
His stand was never taken lightly. Where he failed terribly is the fact that he failed to represent the interest of his party. He was mute and intimidated by the mere presents of Halifa as Sidibeh put it. A strong leader shall never be intimidated by another persons intellectual ability to put across his points.
Who in his right mind would say Halifa is more educated than Darboe? Why would Darboe be intellectually intimidated by Halifa. He just don't want to waste his time arguing with people who are hell-bent in undermining him and his party. That's all.
I think some people are better off having a break from this forum because they are not fit for purpose.
As far as I know, the decision to pull-out from NADD was taken by UDP Executive, and without regret.
thanks
Here you go again with your narrow mindedness. No one said Halifa is more educated than Darboe. Quote the statement where anyone mentioned that. The fact is that level of education does not matter here. What I did was to simply talk about a statement where Sidibeh said Darboe may have been intimidated by Halifa's presents. That is the reason I mention that statement.
Until you take the personal stuff away from this debate you will always be defensive when you read anything on the forum. For once have an open mind and take away the personaility stuff.
You cannot make anyone to take a break from this forum. If my postings are intimidating to you? may be you need to take a hike and find a save heaven to retreat. The forum is meant for different ideas and view points. This is not a one way street so take it or leave it.
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Baldeh,
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Bronx
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 19:40:06
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| There is more to the story of NADD's break up than the intellectual acumen or lack thereof of the constituent party leaders. We can debate this ad nasaeum and nothing good will come out of it. I personally don't believe NADD broke up because of some deep seeded animosity between Ousainou and Halifa: au contraire, I think it broke up because of the underlining tactics that certain individuals employed to undermine others. Granted,you can call it politics, but in a situation such as the one we found ourselves in during the negotiations, it could make or break a delicate truce. The later is what happened in NADD's situation and Gambians and Gambia for that matter became the losers of insidious politicking. |
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Bronx
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 : 19:40:06
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| There is more to the story of NADD's break up than the intellectual acumen or lack thereof of the constituent party leaders. We can debate this ad nasaeum and nothing good will come out of it. I personally don't believe NADD broke up because of some deep seeded animosity between Ousainou and Halifa: au contraire, I think it broke up because of the underlining tactics that certain individuals employed to undermine others. Granted,you can call it politics, but in a situation such as the one we found ourselves in during the negotiations, it could make or break a delicate truce. The later is what happened in NADD's situation and Gambians and Gambia for that matter became the losers of insidious politicking. |
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