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kondorong
Gambia
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 Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 22:25:37
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Originally posted by kajaw
I do not know major Bajinka personally but i knew one Jaranka boy by the name of Babanding he was good friends with Bajinka. But such is the nature of the gambian situation. In a broader sense, we are all family. That makes the fact that we turn on eachother an even grater tragedy. It is usually the case that even if you do not know someone personally, you know someone that is related to them or connected to them in some other way. This is precisely why usually insist that we not let our personal relationships cloud our judgement. Injustice is injustice no matter who carried it out. Crime is crime no matter who is the originator. Corruption is never less so if the person corrupt has been nice to us or brought us up or is our family member or our friend. Like most of you, i have heared a great deal of rumors about the exploits of Major baginka. For instance, it is widely rumored that he was perticularely keen on the toture of Sadibou Hydara and Sanna Sabally.
So here we are presented with a dilema and most of us have not formed a cleare picture of the situation. Here is my take on the matter.
1. In a country where the Government operates with impunity and secricy, where the public is rarely informed and never consulted rumors or "Radio kangkang" is the only available source of information.
2. We all know that "radio kangkang" is sometimes dead wrong.
3. Even if the major is involved with past crimes, he should be arrested for those and given a fare trial
4. Even if he is implicated on the current issue of treason, he should get a fare trial but we all know from past experience that he will be totured to confess on national TV before he is brought to a Kangaroo court where he is neither guaranteed a free and speedy trial nor a right to council. So if you are the major, you try to run away whether you are innocent or guilty.
5. If his family members are not involved in any crime, i do not see how justice would be advanced by arresting them.
In conclusion, i think the assertion that he deserved what he got is premature in some sense but to a larger degree perhaps not well thoought out. For when we condone these acts and try to justify them with what he might have done in the past, we risk sliding right back to lawlessness. He may well have been responsible for the atrocities he is being rumored to have commited and if that is the case, he should not be killed or totured simply because he may have killed or totured in the past. Some of Adolf Hitlar's henchmen some would argue ware as bad as the devil himself but the fact that they accorded their victims no justice does not mean that when they were arrested, they should have been totured, beaten,starved and then hanged. They were tried and given every oportunity to defend themselves and when they were found guilty, they were hanged. If Bajinka was arrested and found guilty (by a free impartial system) of perticipating in the killing of Hydara and then executed, i will not shed a tear for him. Justice would have been served and he would have gotten what he deserved. As of now, the culture of lawlessness has muddied the waters and i am not sure i could pass judgement.
I would conceed one thing though, he had every oportunity to break ranks with the government if in fact he wanted to. He could have resigned his commision. Give me one example where someone voulentary quit and was arrested. So for him to be in the inner circle and even served as Aid de camp and personal body guarde to the president and not know what is going on is hard to immergine. Remember, the Aid de camp holds the breef case of the president. So at the very minimum, he has aided and abetted the criminal behavior of the administration. Bajinka had numerous travel opportunities during which he could have seeked asylum and refuse to perticipate in what was going on. To often, people stay because they have nice houses, drive expensive government cars and their families benifit emensly. Very few stay or leave out of a grater sense of responsibility, dignity or profesionalism. The marrage between the Gambian security forces and the political establishment is a hazadious one. They are like pack of hyenas when one amongst them is scratched by a twig and starts to bleed, the clan start to lick his blood to soote the pain but soon enough, they begin to enjoy the taste of blood and unless he is very srewed, might end up being dinner.
What a powerful way to conclude. You left me guessing and in suspense for sometime |
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blackerberry2004
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 23:17:13
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| I do not know this Bajinka guy but I heard he had done some of Jammeh's dirty jobs. I am inclined to believe this because how else could you be so close to Jammeh for him to entrust you with his life. You have to be tested. He who sleeps with the devil deserves what comes to him. Gambia is so small that these soldiers get intoxicated with power and abuse even their closest friends and family. It's amazing. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 23:30:18
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Originally posted by kondorong
http://www.thegambiaecho.com./default.htm
Madiba read this link. Its looks funny. Who is telling the truth?
I HAVE READ IT SINCE. BUT I STILL DON'T BELIEVE THE STORY.
If Bajinka has been away for one year and the abortive coup was planned this year to be executed in march or so? I personally don't care much what goes on in terms of their power struggle but these soldiers have civilian family and friends any UNFOUNDED REPORTS WILL HURT THEM. So my take is these pseudo-journalists(yellow journalists) running rumour-mongering papers should not be encouraged in the garbage they spit out to us. Papers like FOROYAA, THE POINT are CREDIBLE and practise RESPONSIBLE JOURNALISM. |
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rah
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 23:39:19
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Didn't this ring a bell?
Sun, 16 Jul 2006 02:56:28 -0400
M........, Please read my reply to Pa Nderry this story is inaccurate and unfounded I have spoken to Major Kalifa Bajinka yesterday he is not a CP for your information,he is a Major(Commission Officer).Hope this will clear the minds of those who knew Major Kalifa Bajinka personally and unmask Pa Nderry of false reporting. Thanks. #"*..........
Sun, 16 Jul 2006 03:02:53 -0400
Pa Nderry, This is irresponsible journalism I have spoken to Major Kalifa Bajinka yesterday he is still in good spirit, I have also spoken to his wife Fatou Dibba Bajinka.I will say for a fact whoever your source might be, the information he or she is supplying you is inaccurate and unfounded. It is imperative to switch your thoughts and desires in order to understand the overall challenging trends occurring around you to have a feel for the "terrain” on which you will battle in journalism. As a responsible and peace loving Gambian it is important for me to condemn your reporting which demoralize and incriminate sober people. I will expect you to explore and evaluate the way you report issues based on your track report. Nderry, Major Kalifa Bajinka is still in Nigeria for your information should in any case you need to re-visit your source. Thank you. *\@?.......
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 23:55:33
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| There is no fire without smoke. Could it be a foiled plan or a plan in the making? I only hope that even if he is guilty, that should be established in a court of law. " Let justice guide our actions towards the common good..." national anthem |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 23:57:26
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Hi guys,
Every rumour in the government circles is true.It will only become rumour once they decide to divert to another way of doing it.
If Kalipha is at large,then He should quickly find a way of escape. Likewise if still in Nigeria,then my advise to him will be please you know your Man better than us as you are no blind man or deaf.
I know Baginka with ex lt.Jarju[in jail]But my God most of you will not believe it how the Baginka I know changed to become what most would regard as carefree brutaliser.It was alledged that He personally strucked Jarju with a gun butt when the Kartong raiders were captured to show his solidarity with Jammeh.
When I went to the central to see Jarju,I asked him these questions because I couldn't belief them.He just smiled and told me 'brother did you see what has happened to Sana Sabally{Your former school mate]?I promise you by God,one by one,Jammeh will send most of these crooks to either join us or to wait for us in the hereafter.Then a prison guard shouted at me to go as my time was up.They didn't even allow me to give some morney to him saying if I want to give him anything,I have to give it to them which I declined.
Bajinka will either join the Kartong guys,or the resent ones if he didnot find his way out soon or if out not to go back.
Despite his brutality,I don't want him dead.I would rather want him to face a subsequent court after Jammeh.
Peace
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 00:00:40
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| If anyone knows his telephone number post it so that we all can call and confirm for ourselves. "Radio kankang"( is local name for rumour mill) is dangerous and should be stopped. The probelm is if you dont provide the medium to report news, citizens tend to report it themselves which leads to chaos. |
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kajaw
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Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 00:04:50
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Rah,
In the interest of accuracy, it did not seem to me that Pa Nderry was the source of this article. It seems that you have had it with Pa Nderry and simply want to chastise him. Sure, there are lots of rumors inuendoes and out right inaccuracies in some of the articles posted on that page but this one might not have originated from there. Whether the statements made on the article are true or not, we will find out soon enough. |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 00:11:25
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Not this one Madiba. Sidi-Lamin Bajinka, some one i knew for a long time. He is a blood brother to Khalifah. I spoke with him on the phone today and i qouted directly on the piece. People must heed to demands and not to critisise unnecessarily. I investigated the news story, and if there is any lie-with my name on it, call me a liar after today-and i will call Sidi-lamin a liar in turn.
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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dbaldeh
USA
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Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 00:16:38
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Folks, whatever the story and counter story, each of us must act responsibly in whatever we do or say. Accountability and respect starts with each and everyone of us in our own hearts and minds. No human is infallible in that what goes around comes around. If we all take responsibility for our own actions, this world will be a better place for us and generations to come.
There has been so many irresponsible statements, actions and acusations among ourselves. At the end of the day, we will all be accountable for what we do sooner or later.
Fame, power, and greed is what is ripe in our minds. Domination and misrepresentation of our true nature is what land us in trouble. Let us Stop now for a minute and reflect in overselves and assess where, what, and who we are before acting irresponsibly. It won't be long before anyone who act irresponsibly pays a price for it.
Warning: A criminal system turns everyone in the system a criminal. Jammeh's reign will ruin so many of our honest and loving citizens. Lord safe us before it is too long. It doesn't have to be like that.
Peace!!!
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"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 00:22:02
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Well dalton1,Kon,kejaw rah,madiba,
Every rumour in the Gambia concerning officials is true.Honestly though there is a lot of radio Kang kang but there has to be something to be rumoured.
Bajinka was not in 11th november,
nor was bajinka rumoured in January when Sanna and Sadibu were arrested,
nor was he rumoured after the kartong attack,
no was he rumoured ater landing Sanneh's alledged coup,
nor was he rumoured after Almamo Manneh's alledged coup,
ect ect
If you see all these rumour,something is cooking is is already cooked and ready to spill.
peace
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
1295 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 00:52:53
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| HAY GUYS ITS THE SAME YAYA FELLAS,IS THIS THE FIRST TIME.YOU SHOULD NOT BE SURPRICE AS THIS RUMOURED IS NORTHING BUT TRUE,WE SHOULD WORRY ABOUT THE NEXT PERSON HE KILLS.ITS JUST A MATTER OF TIME.KON ADD HIM ON YOUR LIST AND LEAVE SPACE FOR THE NEXT VICTIM. |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 01:10:41
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| but this is not confirmed yet. May be the papers will report it tomorrow |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 01:41:24
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Originally posted by kondorong
.......... "Radio kankang"( is local name for rumour mill)
thought i just point out that Radio Kankan really exists.
http://www.radio-kankan.com
you can listen to live music from guinea . they only play music. only music. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 01:45:06
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Originally posted by njucks
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Originally posted by kondorong
.......... "Radio kankang"( is local name for rumour mill)
thought i just point out that Radio Kankan really exists.
http://www.radio-kankan.com
you can listen to live music from guinea. they only play music. only music.
wow. kankang is a region in Guinea. I just dont know how this name is associated with rumour. Do you Njuks |
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