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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
 Posted - 20 Jul 2006 : 22:18:49
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In almost every meeting with Gambians across the U.S, Hamat Bah of the UPD/NRP kept refering to "Sharing a cake that is not yet baked". With all the euphoria surronding his town hall meetings with Gambians and his eloquent optimism about the opposition presenting a single candidate, I have not heard Hamat explain what he meant by this ironic statement "Sharing a cake that is not yet baked".
The question is what is the Cake he is talking about? Is Gambia as a nation and its interest the cake, or is sharing the sweet power of government that the opposition is fighting about the cake? Obviously, without the opportunity to ask him this question directly, I will safely asume that the latter is exactly what he is talking about. This clearly vindicates all the acusations against the opposition that hunger for power is the main reason behind the NADD break up. This is one evident of the greed for power in the opposition.
Secondly,the statement I quote "We agree to be equal when we are not" is another clear indication what some of these opposition politicians have in mind when they signed the NADD MOU. This is another clear manifestation of them putting their selfish party interest over the interest of the Gambian people. How could you not be equal when it comes to the fundamental interest of the Gambian people? Statements like these demonstrates the status Quo of political ideology from Jawara to Jammeh.
The most stunning thing about Hamat's town hall meetings is that, I have not heard a single statement about changing a rotten system of government; empowering the people, and holding elected officials accountable to the electorates. Did we hear on a single occasion Hamat speaking on Presidential TERM LIMIT?, did we hear about changing the constitution to safe guard against the abuse of power by the executive or the judiciary? Where is the program on which we can trust the opposition to do better?
Hamat's belief that the President ought to have the powers to appoint anybody he desires spells out disaster for yet another dictatorship. Unlimited presidential power without checks and balances is the fundamental pillar for abuse of power and perpetuation in office. His deliberate attempt to prevent the opposition from negotiating putting in place any of these safe guards before it get to the state house is absolutely pathetic. What is even more pathetic is the failure of Gambians who had the opportunity to face Hamat and ask him questions about Term limits. How can we be so content with a blanket opposition unity without any clarification or commitment from our elected officials to tell us what their programs would be before they get to the state house? Obviously these are the kind of agreements in the NADD MOU that constitute a threat to of power sharing within the opposition. This is without a doubt the make or break for the opposition unity and that is how they broke up sadly. What do you think?
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Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2006 : 22:43:51
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A HALI GONGA MAWDO. SA MBINDA REFET NA TEH LERR NA.
"BO DEGGEH DUMA TOPPA DIW, FOU NGEN DEM MO SORRI WOUT" Youssou Ndour |
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Jack
Belgium
384 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2006 : 22:45:42
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Dbaldeh,
bingo
I couldn't say that better. I even think you can read my mind.
In other postings I referred to my search for the political programs of the opposition. I couldn't find anything exept the colour of the party?? , the symbol ?? But idiology :zero, program : zero; goals : zero...
I wondered why Hamat Bah was in the States ? Whats he doing there. Nobody from the diaspora will go home just to vote, or am I wrong about that.
Very sad. I think it would be good that the opposition leaders come over to Europe for several months to get training about politics, and how you organise opposition.
Notice I was Jede, and now I'm Jack.  . The other option was to change my gender, but was too expensive. LOOL |
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Jack
Belgium
384 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2006 : 22:48:08
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KOn please translate if you post things in Wolof. I try to learn that language  -no joke) |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2006 : 22:48:23
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| I THOUGHT AS MUCH AND WAS WONDERING IF IT WAS JEDE |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 20 Jul 2006 : 22:54:12
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Ahjaramah Demba,
Why waste your time over spilt milk ? The ***** and betrayal that Hamat Bah is. Not a bit surprised over his childish and irresponsible comments all over. For a fact when those that know the circumstances should reveal Hamat's barbaric part in the disintegration, one would truly realize that he is done as a politician. Since then, he is not my appetite.
I said it in this forum before. Hamat is worst than any could be called a betayal. History will teach him a bitter lesson. When they were fully aware of the umbrella alliance's stake, they ******ly ignored the facts and plight of the Gambian masses. The very Hamat was busy engaged in hypocrisy in Dakar-Wade's palace, when the impasse was on, pretending to be sick. Yes, he was sick in his head. He was not even reachable on the phone.
The filthy mouth stinks so bad that he deserve some 'mob justice' to have him give us a break. When people make their stakes, he is not listening, and now he is trying to entertain-full of inconsistencies. Since the blame of whatever is happening should be pinned on the useless opposition, we need to see some twist on their heads-mob justice.
Hamat is talking about unbaked cake, but he forgot what he told me about respecting the M.O.O. Such irresponsible, selfish, barbaric and unmannered behaviours should never survive. Gambians deserve better than we are seeing, looks like a curse on our heads.
Some ******ous betrayals-born traitors, lived traitors and will die traitors. Who can the likes of Hamat fool ? Not even his own constistuency men, who realized his tribalistic nature and trashed him to the garbage. As to what he can do to win my vote-Hamat can go to hell a thrillion times.
As we analyse the ongoing trend, we can see hypocrisy from reality, lying from truthfulness, dishonesty from honesty. Even if we try to mask or lie about reality, we cannot burry it for ever. As a matter of fact, people already separated the bones from the flesh.
Hamat is the biggest joke and betrayal of our century. His irresponsibility starts where all the fools and irresponsible people stopped, and continues vertically to the skies. Those that can hold their worms to listen to Hamat must be patient enough. I cannot. With his nonchalarant behaviour he demonstrated, how do we expect him to sit on a negotiating table ?
The dirty mouth need some good ass-****** whooping. The parable is like from military dictatorship to intellectual dictatorship. Infact such applications are not even close to intellectuality, not coming from the brains. Maybe others think with their anuses. The **** hurts so bad that emotions can break hell loose in a minute.
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Edited by - Dalton1 on 20 Jul 2006 23:03:31 |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2006 : 23:05:55
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| hey its not campaign time yet. The election is already won. Lets prepare for 2012 and be better organised |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Jul 2006 : 23:48:06
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So the fight is over before it has started?
Dont give in so easily.
At village level start discussion groups, then get a new paper started on the oposition side.
Make sure EVERYONE turns out to vote and votes in an informed way.
Failing that....perhaps it is time to seriously think about another coup. A revolution from the grass roots.
What would be promised?
FREE education.
FREE health care.
The new government would have to work hard to provide it, but it is something to aim for and in my belief should be the priority.
Politicains in opposition need to look at what ordinary people need. Obviously they need more employment oportunities to give them hope so they dont want to leave the country. But free education and health are vote winners. |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
1295 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2006 : 23:59:28
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| ASS TAG FURR LA to another COUP.EEH JAMM OSS MALA Y. |
There is no god but Allah |
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mbay
Germany
1007 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 00:16:25
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hey bro have we ever took this conversation together before?
i real cant said better more than you do and Where will come much better and cleared than you did? you real touched most of our mind!
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Originally posted by dbaldeh
In almost every meeting with Gambians across the U.S, Hamat Bah of the UPD/NRP kept refering to "Sharing a cake that is not yet baked". With all the euphoria surronding his town hall meetings with Gambians and his eloquent optimism about the opposition presenting a single candidate, I have not heard Hamat explain what he meant by this ironic statement "Sharing a cake that is not yet baked".
The question is what is the Cake he is talking about? Is Gambia as a nation and its interest the cake, or is sharing the sweet power of government that the opposition is fighting about the cake? Obviously, without the opportunity to ask him this question directly, I will safely asume that the latter is exactly what he is talking about. This clearly vindicates all the acusations against the opposition that hunger for power is the main reason behind the NADD break up. This is one evident of the greed for power in the opposition.
Secondly,the statement I quote "We agree to be equal when we are not" is another clear indication what some of these opposition politicians have in mind when they signed the NADD MOU. This is another clear manifestation of them putting their selfish party interest over the interest of the Gambian people. How could you not be equal when it comes to the fundamental interest of the Gambian people? Statements like these demonstrates the status Quo of political ideology from Jawara to Jammeh.
The most stunning thing about Hamat's town hall meetings is that, I have not heard a single statement about changing a rotten system of government; empowering the people, and holding elected officials accountable to the electorates. Did we hear on a single occasion Hamat speaking on Presidential TERM LIMIT?, did we hear about changing the constitution to safe guard against the abuse of power by the executive or the judiciary? Where is the program on which we can trust the opposition to do better?
Hamat's belief that the President ought to have the powers to appoint anybody he desires spells out disaster for yet another dictatorship. Unlimited presidential power without checks and balances is the fundamental pillar for abuse of power and perpetuation in office. His deliberate attempt to prevent the opposition from negotiating putting in place any of these safe guards before it get to the state house is absolutely pathetic. What is even more pathetic is the failure of Gambians who had the opportunity to face Hamat and ask him questions about Term limits. How can we be so content with a blanket opposition unity without any clarification or commitment from our elected officials to tell us what their programs would be before they get to the state house? Obviously these are the kind of agreements in the NADD MOU that constitute a threat to of power sharing within the opposition. This is without a doubt the make or break for the opposition unity and that is how they broke up sadly. What do you think?
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 00:28:02
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Dalton1, Kon, and others, thanks for your observation. I knew more and more level headed and concious Gambians have already figured out what was brewing in Hamats head. I couldn't wait to bring it up.
This was the same Hamat that first objected to party led coalition when it was first mentioned. His admission of them making a mistake in negotiating with others is a Colossal revelation of the lack of conciousness of what is at stake. It has also revealed the political emptiness in these peoples' brains. Politics is not seasonal, and those who use it as part time jobs are only out to pave more opportunities for themselves.
I have always maintained that half of the people that signed the MOU did not have a clue what they were signing. They thought it was all the same political drama and an easy way to the state house. What a joke we have in our hands.
Now it is time fellows to spit out those who dwell on politics as usual in Gambia (whom you know), and those genuine Gambian citizens who dedicate their entire lives to fight for a change in system and not faces. I would rather be buried with my dignity and rags on, than join a bunch of greedy people that are gearing for a shame of the century. I have no doubt that people who stand for true democratic representation will not hesitate to part with such political opportunists even if it looks like betrayal on the initial surface. History shall vindicate the true patriots and sons of decency. |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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mbay
Germany
1007 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 00:28:08
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Nouwai bandrabeh, mineh foufu wa awata haaludeh fullubeh!
(i am not good in pull what i means is that, we all cant speaks fullow)
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Originally posted by kondorong
A HALI GONGA MAWDO. SA MBINDA REFET NA TEH LERR NA.
"BO DEGGEH DUMA TOPPA DIW, FOU NGEN DEM MO SORRI WOUT" Youssou Ndour
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2006 : 00:32:55
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quote:
Originally posted by mbay
Nouwai bandrabeh, mineh foufu wa awata haaludeh fullubeh!
(i am not good in pull what i means is that, we all cant speaks fullow)
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Originally posted by kondorong
A HALI GONGA MAWDO. SA MBINDA REFET NA TEH LERR NA.
"BO DEGGEH DUMA TOPPA DIW, FOU NGEN DEM MO SORRI WOUT" Youssou Ndour
Its fulani and wollof mixed. its a protest against the opposition. |
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Dalton1
3485 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 18:47:46
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Gentleman,
Thanks for your e-mail, and sharing thoughts about the NRP affairs. I honestly regret using the kind of hot language on your party's leader-Hamat, and deep my heart i am sorry for any inconvenience the said piece with "insults" caused the entire NRP camp. I might have done mine from emotions, though never malicious. I am however quick to add that you can also critisise me here or any where. The piece is not hidden, so i wasn't hiding while making my utterance.
If still this rejoinder doesn't certisfy you, i can edit the said piece with "insults" as you said or petition for its deletion. I also understand the fact that Hamat is an elder with children of my age.
Not withstanding the open apology, i didn't see that i was critising a fellow tribesman-Fula man, but rather critisised some one who betrayed the whole Gambia, by him acting so low.
I appreciate your feedback and telling me how you feel. I am only human.
Respectfully submitted,
Yero |
"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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OB1
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 19:45:35
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People, take Hamat Bah seriously at your own peril. The man has no scruples, let me state it very clearly here: Let him deny it if he likes.....
1. Jammeh gave him cash (through Baba Jobe in 1996-97)
2. In 2001-02 he also received cash from the same source, same transaction, the reason: NRP was to act as the destabilizing factor in case ANY second round was to occur. Now with NO second round Jammeh does not need him anymore....hence the acrimony, furthered by NRP's opting to join the NADD in early 2005. That was why Jammeh was upset, and called him a cockroach, whilst on tour.
Now other revelations are coming out that Darboe has also been bought, prior to this there is talk that he even took cash from APRC fixers as early as 2001, thus being the reason for the sudden unilateral 'acceptance’ of results, and acknowledging that Jammeh was his "Daddy", culminating in an unexpected pull out from the National Assembly elections in 2002, which saw 66% of the seats, almost unopposed, and handed over to the APRC. That is why today we have to live with the scrapping of the 2nd round balloting, thanks partly to Darboe’s convoluted political machinations....NRP/UDP alliance is a selfish enterprise designed to serve the purposes of two people only: Darboe and Hamat Bah who should not be trusted. They are a terrible bunch!
And what is up with Bah’s interview on the internet…..he looked like a common criminal, a con man presenting a highly dubious scheme to the Gambian people. One could not see his face, and his voice was not at all audible. This is very worrying, even the image betrays any semblance of trust for this guy. Are Hamat, or Darboe Presidential material for a better Gambia? Please! Let’s think hard, and do the right thing, based on what we have been promised, and what has thus far pertained. NADD and Halifa have been very consistent. Let’s stick with them. We asked for a NADD, now we have it, do we betray those that honored our call? I think not.
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blackerberry2004
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 22:54:56
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I can't begin to express my frustrations on Hamat 'flip flop' Bah and Darboe. They have betrayed the cause. Jammeh is handed the presidency on a silver platter. He doesn't have to rig this election. Rest to sure that both these characters would bear the burden of the Gambian people for the next five years.
As for me, I would be ready to accept the will of the people when Jammeh wins the election, aided and abbeted by Bah and Darboe. I would never support the tyrant but would accept his rule. When enough is enough, then the Gambian masses would act.
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