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sab



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Posted - 31 Mar 2012 :  13:40:59  Show Profile Send sab a Private Message

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17571982

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Momodou



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Posted - 31 Mar 2012 :  13:52:20  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
Let us hope they don't destroy the remaining historical archives of this area. It looks like the remains of Gadafi's weapons will destablise this region for a long time.

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Momodou



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Posted - 01 Apr 2012 :  13:28:37  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
Mali rebels attack Timbuktu amid post-coup chaos

BAMAKO, Mali (AP) - After seizing the strategic northern towns of Kidal and Gao, Tuareg rebels on Sunday began besieging the ancient city of Timbuktu, taking their fight for a homeland for the nomadic Tuareg people to the last major government holdout in northern Mali. Residents contacted by telephone said that they were cowering inside their homes as blasts from heavy arms and automatic gunfire c..

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toubab1020



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Posted - 01 Apr 2012 :  14:56:27  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
History and historical things can NEVER be replaced and are a loss to EVERYONE FOREVER

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Originally posted by Momodou

Let us hope they don't destroy the remaining historical archives of this area. It looks like the remains of Gadafi's weapons will destablise this region for a long time.


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toubab1020



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Posted - 01 Apr 2012 :  15:38:45  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
I have read a bit more about this and for me here is the answer;

"Other Tuareg fighters, however, are not interested in independence from Bamako. Instead they say they are fighting so that Sharia law can be imposed in Mali. The leader of this faction is said to have close ties with an al-Qaeda-linked group, al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)."

Anybody with much greater knowledge of the area tell me if I am correct or have I made another "mistake" ?

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sab



United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Apr 2012 :  17:03:59  Show Profile Send sab a Private Message

Toubab if you cast your mind back to the 70's & 80's you may remember the Tuareg problems in Chad & Niger together with the drought.

Whatever is happening in this world today, we came back from The Gambia in Jan 2011 to find Tunisa Government had collapsed the remains of 2011 were just horrific in other parts of Africa. We needed to go to Timbuktu few weeks back to see relatives, but for me the foreign office advised in November it was too dangerous,now look.

But our ancestors (Elizabeth 1) have not kept their noses clean either,

http://www.understandingslavery.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=378&Itemid=233
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The end of Timbuktu's golden age


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8386866.stm

We should pray for the historical places remain untouched in this trouble, cast your mind back to that which was lost in Iraq and Libya, just dreadful.




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toubab1020



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Posted - 01 Apr 2012 :  18:35:36  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Yes agreed Sab,no dispute there again we are referring to things that happened centuries ago when the world was a different place,history was not even thought about in conflicts I am sure ,no excuse obviously for horrific incidents that took place,destruction of history for certain, but also note that, Ahmad I al-Mansur , appears to be the instigator of this "invasion" the English were riding high on a take from everybody piracy wave at the time and doubtless expected to get good rewards from their alliance,very little difference to the "alliances " formed today (Oil requirements ? )

Snippet taken from Sab's link above.:

http://www.understandingslavery.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=378&Itemid=233

"The end of Timbuktu's golden age


The golden age of Timbuktu came to an end with the collapse of the Songhay empire following the invasion by Morocco, whose sultan Ahmad I al-Mansur had established an alliance with Elizabeth I of England.

The English agreed to provide the Moroccan military with firearms and men skilled in the use of these weapons. This Arab-European army invaded Songhay in 1591 and destroyed it. The invaders confiscated gold and other resources, enslaved the Songhay scholars – including Ahmed Baba, who was deported to Morocco – and attempted to confiscate Timbuktu's archives.

With the end of the Songhay empire, the two thirds of West Africa that had previously been under a single authority split into smaller and smaller political units, making the region easy prey for invaders and slave traders.

In 1656, the great West African historian Abdurrahman As-Sadi wrote in his Tarikh as Sudan: 'I saw the ruin and collapse of the science of history. I observed that its gold and small change were both disappearing.'"

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 01 Apr 2012 18:40:29
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Momodou



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Posted - 03 Apr 2012 :  15:10:05  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message

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toubab1020



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Posted - 03 Apr 2012 :  15:25:13  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Listening and watching that video report,Mali has several problems,political and criminal,personally I think that it is a wait and see situation as to how things develop.


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Edited by - toubab1020 on 03 Apr 2012 15:27:03
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Momodou



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Posted - 04 Apr 2012 :  21:16:15  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message

Mali opposition won't take part in junta gathering

BAMAKO, Mali (AP) - The main opposition parties in Mali say they will not take part in a national convention being organized by the military officers who seized control of the country in last month's coup. Coup leader Capt. Amadou Haya Sanogo over the weekend proposed holding the convention as a way to appease the international community, which is demanding that he immediately restore the nation's...

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toubab1020



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Posted - 04 Apr 2012 :  21:47:15  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Obviously no quick resolution to this mess.

Taken from Momodou's link above here:
http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_15287/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=428Oazwd


"We don't know who is who, and who is controlling what - and who is in charge," said Timbuktu Mayor Ousmane Halle. He said he could not be sure if AQIM was present in the town.
He confirmed that the secular rebel group known as the National Movement for the Liberation of the Azawad had taken over the airport of Timbuktu, setting up its headquarters there. The Islamist Ansar Dine group, he said, has based itself at a military camp in the middle of town.

And another link here:
http://allafrica.com/mali/

And a bit of U tube.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 04 Apr 2012 21:56:38
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kobo



United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Apr 2012 :  04:39:49  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
GAINAKO NEWS EDITORIAL;

Edited by - kobo on 05 Apr 2012 04:40:11
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toubab1020



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Posted - 05 Apr 2012 :  22:03:23  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
I expect that there may be a Guest House for sale quite cheaply in Mali.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/mali-british-couple-safe-well-154510334.html

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kobo



United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Apr 2012 :  01:56:04  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
SENEWEB TRANSLATED NEWS;

"Malian parliament speaker, Diouncounda Traoré, the coup of March 22 found in Burkina Faso, is expected Friday in Mali where it might be given the interim President of the Republic, said on Thursday good source in the Malian capital.

This scenario of an interim authority led by parliament speaker results from a second interview on the night of Wednesday to Thursday at Kati between the Malian president of the junta, Captain Amadou Sanogo, Burkina Faso and Minister of Foreign Affairs, M . Djibril Bassole.

Posted by President Blaise Compaoré, mediator in the crisis in Mali, Burkina Faso Minister had hinted at leaving the interview that he was close to an agreement to end the institutional crisis in Mali.

Mr. Bassole said that the captain had Sanogo would shortly make "announcements" which he said he wanted to give him the scoop.

Diouncounda Traore, 70, is president of Alliance for Democracy in Mali (Adema-PASJ) and dissolved parliament. He was a candidate in the presidential election to be held on April 29th."

Edited by - kobo on 06 Apr 2012 03:27:26
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Momodou



Denmark
11717 Posts

Posted - 06 Apr 2012 :  20:54:43  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
Tuaregs claim 'independence' from Mali
Rebel group proclaims "independence of Azawad" following gains in northern Mali, as Algerian consulate staff abducted.






Mali Tuareg rebels' call on independence rejected
The African Union, the EU and former colonial power France have all rejected a call by Tuareg rebels in north Mali for their newly named region of Azawad to be recognised as independent.

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Momodou



Denmark
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Posted - 07 Apr 2012 :  10:46:28  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
Mali coup leaders 'to stand down'

7 April 2012

Coup leaders in Mali have agreed to stand down and allow a transition to civilian rule, as part of a deal struck with regional bloc Ecowas.

In return, the bloc will lift trade and economic sanctions and grant amnesty to the ruling junta, mediators said.

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