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turk
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 Posted - 18 Jul 2011 : 22:39:28
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Moe
For a moment, I thought he had some divine enlightenment when I saw the links. I thought he is in for something providing some information. I must have had high expectation for him. It was disappointing to see his links have no point. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Moe
USA
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Posted - 18 Jul 2011 : 22:47:09
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| So it is when you are embarked on a hopeless venture. Kukoi Samba Sanyang has to make face as Ugly as it may be........................Peace |
I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Jul 2011 : 23:23:37
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Before you people parade the whole bush, get back to what this thread is all about. To remind everyone, the observation is that Yaya Jammeh preaches what he does not practise. He talks about peace while using excessive cruel oppression on Gambian people. He promised a temporal stay in power after the July 1994 coup. After tasting power, he now clings for life. What do we hear ? He claims popularity as justification to complete his faked projects. In the process he steals money and material; left, right, and centre.
That is what this thread picks on as CONTRADICTION. This thread is not about TURKEY or any other part of the universe.
You came with your dirty feet to storm the arena. No matter how far you gyrate, twisting this thread is just not possible. Dig this, the thread is nothing about Kwait or Turkey. It is about Gambian president Yaya Jammeh deceiving people. Saying one thing doing the very opposite million times. Get that. If you wish to demonstrate your knowledge of anything else Turkie, open a new thread and trade your goods. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 19 Jul 2011 : 00:22:00
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Turk, I am no historical expert and I don't intend to be, I am well satisfied with your response, I fear that if taken to the Nth degree it will get totally boring and result in lots of research and quotations.
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Yes, South Africa was little bid different from the other colonies, as there were European settlers living there. UK is the country most benefited from colonization but the wealth is also reflected on all Europe. For example, Germany was not a colonial nation but, the wealth spread to West Europe so much, the most continent got rich.
Mali Empire was not a typical colonial state like Europe. Their expansion was limited to West Africa, and especially Mauritania to Guinea, they did not have significant natural resources. So, Mali Empire can't be comparable to Europe. Mali empire was very regional. Someone should correct me if I am wrong. Mali area was big but most of the area is dessert, so not overwhelming economic value. Most African Empires was regional, unlike European colonial power they did not colonized other races/continents. And they were empire long ago. When colonization started in Africa, it was harsh. Especially impact of slavery/colonization combined has too much impact that they are still recovering. That is very unfortunate and black mark in the history of humanity.
I don't know if more than 100 years or less. If less how long. 70 years, 40 years. It is still generations. It is an illusion that when Jammeh is gone, things will change quickly and Gambia will became Swiss. That is a reality. I don't know why this offends people but that is the situation.
Let me read your topic and comment.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jul 2011 : 00:51:28
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| Toubab1020, on a more polite notice, let Turk take to the gabbage pit all that scrap that does not fit with the thread at hand which clearly points to a man preaching what he does not practise. This thread picks the glaring contradiction of Jammeh and Turk or anyone for that matter can never grow fingers to cover that up. There is already enough space on the History section to lodge Greek, Turkish, Egyptian, or British history. We are dealing with current events in Gambia and nothing more or less. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jul 2011 : 01:41:01
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Turk Turkey GDP is ranked 16th in the table of richest nations so your quote is over exaggerated whereas Gambia is ranked number 23 out of 30 poorest countries in the world which is a stark contrast than before 1994 it was in the poorest 20 nations. So there have been improvements in relation to its GDP. Toubab I would suggest you check your history again if Mali didn't have much gold then why did the British stay on the WEst African coast for 350 trying to find their way to the river Niger? If it was for gold?
Point taken Karamba this is the Gambian politics section however sometimes topics will overlap for history geography and politics are of course interrelated. However I do understand your point.
Karamba it seems as you politics is more personal than rational. Didn't you know there is a thin line between love and hate. It would be intriguing to find out what your relationship with Yaya really is because for someone to dedicate a considerable amount of their time dedicated to posting the same negative messages time and time again is irrational to say the least.
Let's widen the debate.
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turk
USA
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Posted - 19 Jul 2011 : 02:09:38
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Wow. 15th is over exaggerated!!! Very interesting Sister. Over-exaggerated! Oh yeah. Sure. I am way over.
World Bank says: 15, IMF says: 16 CIA says : 16
However, I agree on Gambia's slow but steady improvements. I am very happy for that.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jul 2011 : 02:31:19
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
Turk Turkey GDP is ranked 16th in the table of richest nations so your quote is over exaggerated whereas Gambia is ranked number 23 out of 30 poorest countries in the world which is a stark contrast than before 1994 it was in the poorest 20 nations. So there have been improvements in relation to its GDP. Toubab I would suggest you check your history again if Mali didn't have much gold then why did the British stay on the WEst African coast for 350 trying to find their way to the river Niger? If it was for gold?
Point taken Karamba this is the Gambian politics section however sometimes topics will overlap for history geography and politics are of course interrelated. However I do understand your point.
Karamba it seems as you politics is more personal than rational. Didn't you know there is a thin line between love and hate. It would be intriguing to find out what your relationship with Yaya really is because for someone to dedicate a considerable amount of their time dedicated to posting the same negative messages time and time again is irrational to say the least.
Let's widen the debate.
I promise this time Sister Omega, I will not crash with you on the points you raised. You have played the sister and mother a yard keeper is best expected doing. This post of yours is set on balance. You have shown objective judgement and truly upright. This way, we can avoid the tussle.
In all fairness Sister Omega, may I thank you. But just before you go, let me also assure you that my take on issues is far from personal and purely non toxic. What some people gossip is what I bring out for public consumption. In real life, I have all the tolerance to deal with the most awkwardly racists persons and will not feel offended when some of them choose to blast on colour or creed by simply saying " I don't mean to offend you" That's how impersonal I take issues. No hard feelings, Sister Omega. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 19 Jul 2011 : 11:42:48
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Sioster O you are right:
"Toubab I would suggest you check your history again if Mali didn't have much gold then why did the British stay on the WEst African coast for 350 trying to find their way to the river Niger? If it was for gold?"
Not good at history or inhabiting the world of academia,I am good at common sense and truth though,I do tend to open my mouth without verifing what I speak or write about though,but that's free speech, and when I make errors I am happy to have them corrected by those who are experts.
"If a man always writes and speaks the truth he cannot go wrong"
( in an ideal world of course and if you are not a politician)
"Let's widen the debate." Lets not, you will run circles around us and we will get lost sister O 
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
Turk Turkey GDP is ranked 16th in the table of richest nations so your quote is over exaggerated whereas Gambia is ranked number 23 out of 30 poorest countries in the world which is a stark contrast than before 1994 it was in the poorest 20 nations. So there have been improvements in relation to its GDP. Toubab I would suggest you check your history again if Mali didn't have much gold then why did the British stay on the WEst African coast for 350 trying to find their way to the river Niger? If it was for gold?
Point taken Karamba this is the Gambian politics section however sometimes topics will overlap for history geography and politics are of course interrelated. However I do understand your point.
Karamba it seems as you politics is more personal than rational. Didn't you know there is a thin line between love and hate. It would be intriguing to find out what your relationship with Yaya really is because for someone to dedicate a considerable amount of their time dedicated to posting the same negative messages time and time again is irrational to say the least.
Let's widen the debate.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Santanfara
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Posted - 19 Jul 2011 : 12:34:40
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Karamba, so now you are Koukoi. No wonder, Moe is huffing none stop. This man needs help.
Karamba, your indept analysis of Jammeh is something we all long to read, Go forth bro, you're on top of things. Isn't it Yaya who was just threatening farmers with water? Yet the same man want people to listen to him in U.N. What a Bufalo.. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2011 : 00:12:53
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Santanfara, remember it was Yaya who condemned Jawara for overstaying. Jawara stayed 30 years in powewr, something too long for Yaya. Now Yaya pledged to stay for life. he said only God can pull him from power. That is big time contradiction. You used guns to chase someone from power because of overstay. Now you want to stay more than that person. Yaya, that is serious contradiction. Give chance to others. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Jul 2011 : 09:49:46
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| He thinks he is KING, rather than PRESIDENT. That is worrying for democracy! |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 20 Jul 2011 : 18:43:37
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Karamba, aka Moe's Koukoi, you haven't distance yourself from Moe moe's accusations. Are you indeed Koukoi? Why did Moe think you are Koukoi? If you happen to be Koukoi, Isafu
Anyhow, coming to Jammeh, he is a contradiction in everything. He has made more promises than any head of state I have ever heard of. Yet he is reppeating the same false promises over and over. First, the biline of rampant corruption is all mute. The question of overstaying in power is forgotten.
remember the man was more poor than a Church Mouse. How do you expect him to give up after amassing ill-gotten wealth. Yahya knows, his Moroccan wife will be the first to bid him good bye should he lose power today. I am thinking, the good sister Omela will assist him on the love triangle front.
Even transperancy international were forced out of the Gambian when Jammeh set his filthy eyes on corrpution, personalising state funds.
Today, the poor soldier who was stranded half his life is a mafia tycoon.
Karamba, I am not bothered whether you are Koukoi or Moe Jarju, you are a hero in exposing the core of what is wrong with Yahya Jamus...The Sheik of Kanilai. Nasirudeen himself...
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Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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kobo
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Jul 2011 : 22:04:24
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Kobo, freedom of expression is teason under Yaya Jammeh. You are free to praise and not to criticise. Again, another big contradiction springs in mind. when he raped trhe constitution by seizing power in that July 1994 coup, Yaya said openly "criticise us where we go wrong". Next he threatened to put journlalist six feet down (buried) for simple observation of his ways. The new decree against freedom of expression is one they call "giving false information to public officer." It is the fastest track to Mile 2 Prisons.
Santanfara, Moe is not to be taken serious. It is one of those things that when Jammeh placed his people in so much shame, they still want to stick their neck out. There is is no continent on this earth where information about Jammeh's misrule is not extended. The funny thing is that Jammeh himself is not denying anything. He simply keeps quiet. Looking at his recent photos and video shots, there is evidence of serious depression the man wears. My friend, one lizard could not swallow every frog in the pond. This is a serious affair for aspiring king. |
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