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toubab1020
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 Posted - 04 Nov 2010 : 20:51:42
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"The politician wannabes don't have any platform, don't have any program, don't have any ideology, don't have any website. Their best political platform is opposing other opposition parties."
Very strong words turk.
I wonder if the opposition spokesman can refute what you have written,in this case I feel that "doing a turk " might be forgiven if such a spokesman should wish to reply giving some examples.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 04 Nov 2010 : 22:52:43
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Janko is not a politician and not intending to be one very soon.
My advice to dogmatists; aim your bullets at the right target, if you are lacking di-logic abilities stay away from Gambian politics.
There was a stubborn guy who was advice not to put his hand in the mouth of a crocodile and his answer to that was,
-it is not my right hand but the left hand.
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Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 04 Nov 2010 : 23:11:14
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Janko I presume your last post in this topic was directed to me,I am pleased that you are not going in for politics,and I don't have a gun or bullets even for target practice. I hadn't the faintest idea of what "di-logic" meant so I had to look it up,couldnt find it with a hyphen but the suggestion was;
"dialogic or dialogical, characterized or constituted by the interactive, responsive nature of dialogue rather than by the single#8208;mindedness of monologue. The term is important in the writings of the Russian theorist Mikhail Bakhtin, whose book Problems of Dostoevsky's Poetics (1929) contrasts the dialogic or polyphonic interplay of various characters' voices in Dostoevsky's novels with the ‘monological’ subordination of characters to the single viewpoint of the … "
link:http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1O56-dialogic.html
Then your posting made sense,don't join in topics that you know nothing about leave it to the people who do,and make sure you are on the right side,is that a fair summing up of your post to me ? in simple language of course .
The last sentence of your post rather shocked me,and something that I thought I would never read on Bantaba in cyberspace. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 04 Nov 2010 : 23:20:51
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Though I support UDP i BELIEF A defeat for one opposition is a defeat for all opposition as we all share the aim of unseating Jammeh.
But lessons should be learnt from this as well for PDOIS/NADD lets join hand with UDP and strongly uproot this man out or risk sweating hard under his grip.
PDOIS is no longer the intelectuals' party as other parties too have bunches of it. See yourselves as servants of the people not educated preachers as most people view you.
Change your tactics and join with others not just lead but be lead.
I used to remember PDOIS coming to our village and without any party chairman, they put their speakers to action and start bomberding people with sermons.Our elders would say how can we listen to people who don't even visit our homes or share our food let alone vote for them?
PDOIS need to learn having been the oldest political party in the country today that education doesnot give votes but shared values.
Gambian tradition believes in sharing so let PDOIS/NADD share otherwise am afraid we will be getting the same results and may God forbit we may loose even the one MP they now have.(Meaning we I mean all opposition)
UNITE WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.LET HALIFA AND SEDIA NOT LISTEN TO KOBO AND CO WHO I SEE TRIES TO ASSOCIATE EVERYTHING WITH TRIBALISM WHEN THEY ARE MORE TRIBALIST THEMDSELVES THAN TRIBALISM ITSELVE. |
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 05 Nov 2010 : 00:49:44
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Yes, toubab, you got it right, and that we go in a dia-logue to learn and not to win.
I am shocked by your being shocked.
To cut a long story short, my usage of the saying, is that, the advice of not putting ones hands in the mouth of a crocodile applies to both hands, but he who replies by saying it is the left hand does not understand the advice.
To put that in context, I asked a question and got an answer and thanked the person for it. Then that was interpreted as camaraderie, or being UDP, or a lame excuse. Then I came back to explain why I asked the question. Thereafter I was accused of being biased and a never ending raving about matters that had nothing to do with my stance.
I am not a politician and my objective in joining discussions on political issues is mare logic not because I intend to defend PPP or what not.
Remember some of my posts on Mr. Politician.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 05 Nov 2010 : 01:18:44
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Janko I understand your words a little better now,you were replying to turks complete posting,although I only quoted the one paragraph that I was interested in,turk does have a habit being not readily understood (probably by design!). I took your posting to refer to turks quote that I copied ,being the only piece that interested me from his posting .Your last paragraph that you posted that I was shocked by you have explained,I originally had thought that it was meant to point to something more sinister,I was mistaken.I am the same as you when you write "I am not a politician and my objective in joining discussions on political issues is mare logic not because I intend to defend PPP or what not."
Sorted, Pax Bro ? |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Edited by - toubab1020 on 05 Nov 2010 01:21:48 |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 05 Nov 2010 : 01:42:15
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The politician wannabes don't have any platform, don't have any program, don't have any ideology, don't have any website. Their best political platform is opposing other opposition parties.
Janko
I was referring the leader/members of UDP. Don't be so touchy. I did not refer you as politician. However, I also addressed you as you overlooked the importance of not contesting which is fundamental requirement for political participation. Parties contest regardless of circumstances.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 05 Nov 2010 01:42:49 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Nov 2010 : 10:17:31
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quote:
Originally posted by Janyanfara
Though I support UDP i BELIEF A defeat for one opposition is a defeat for all opposition as we all share the aim of unseating Jammeh.
But lessons should be learnt from this as well for PDOIS/NADD lets join hand with UDP and strongly uproot this man out or risk sweating hard under his grip.
PDOIS is no longer the intelectuals' party as other parties too have bunches of it. See yourselves as servants of the people not educated preachers as most people view you.
Change your tactics and join with others not just lead but be lead.
I used to remember PDOIS coming to our village and without any party chairman, they put their speakers to action and start bomberding people with sermons.Our elders would say how can we listen to people who don't even visit our homes or share our food let alone vote for them?
PDOIS need to learn having been the oldest political party in the country today that education doesnot give votes but shared values.
Gambian tradition believes in sharing so let PDOIS/NADD share otherwise am afraid we will be getting the same results and may God forbit we may loose even the one MP they now have.(Meaning we I mean all opposition)
UNITE WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.LET HALIFA AND SEDIA NOT LISTEN TO KOBO AND CO WHO I SEE TRIES TO ASSOCIATE EVERYTHING WITH TRIBALISM WHEN THEY ARE MORE TRIBALIST THEMDSELVES THAN TRIBALISM ITSELVE.
YOU APPEAR TO BE CONFUSED? REMINDING YOU AGAIN THAT NADD WAS A STRATEGIC MOVE TO ELIMINATE JAMMEH/APRC! NADD ONLY REQUIRE REMODELING OR REVAMP AS A UNITED FRONT FOR ALL OPPONENTS OF JAMMEH/APRC!
I WON'T BOTHER MYSELF ON OTHER CHEAP, WEAK & IRRELEVANT COMMENTS!
IN AS MUCH AS UDP/NRP HAS NO NEWS OR INTEREST IN THIS BY-ELECTIONS, SURPRISINGLY MOST OTHER ON-LINE GAMBIAN FORUMS DIDN'T BOTHER WITH THIS BY-ELECTIONS? THEREFORE CONGRATULATIONS FOR BANTABA AS THE ONLY ONLINE FORUM THAT FULLY COVERED THIS BY-ELECTIONS AND WITH FEW EXCHANGES OF OPINIONS!
WHAT A PATHETIC SITUATION
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Edited by - kobo on 05 Nov 2010 10:23:09 |
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toubab1020
12311 Posts |
Posted - 05 Nov 2010 : 10:21:58
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KOBO
I think, bantaba in cyberspace is the only place to be where discussions are about everything Gambian and anyone who wants to be read will get a viewing,
"IN AS MUCH AS UDP/NRP HAS NO NEWS OR INTEREST IN THIS BY-ELECTIONS, SURPRISINGLY MOST OF OPTHER ON-LINE GAMBIAN FORUMS DIDN'T BOTHER WITH THIS BY-ELECTIONS? THEREFORE CONGRATULATIONS FOR BANTABA AS THE ONLY ONLINE FORUM THAT COVERED THIS BY-ELECTIONS AND WITH FEW EXCHANGES OF OPINIONS!"
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kobo
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