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turk
USA
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 Posted - 01 Nov 2010 : 12:56:47
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For this riding:
2008
MUHAMMED BARROW APRC M 1506 = % 54
MUHAMMEN KIJERA NADD M 1280 = % 46
2010
Kebbeh APRC 1817 = % 68
Barrow NADD 827 = % 32
Total number for APRC got increase by % 20.
Total number for NADD got decrease by % 35.
and the total number of vote decrease only 5 %.
Numbers shows that APRC support increase dramatically. The support for APRC increasing and 2011 presidential election looks like another victory for APRC. Mathematically, there is no indication that APRC support decreasing and UDP leader's dream about victory in 2011 is not REALISTIC. Looks like retirement is waiting for UDP leader.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 01 Nov 2010 13:02:37 |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 02 Nov 2010 : 13:21:28
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Should the IEC be obliged to publish the numbers of registered voters in a ward ?
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Originally posted by toubab1020
Ah.....now I understand ,I wish that you had expressed that earier saved me a lot of research time getting the (available) official figures, which as you correctly state do not show the total number of those entitled to vote,all we are left with is votes cast and obviously cannot speculate on percentages or statistics between the parties because we do not know the number of entitled voters.
OK 1 + 1 = 4 Right ?
Clever Eh..., I missed that.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 02 Nov 2010 : 16:46:06
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Thanks Nyarikangbanna,
it would have been meaningless otherwise to contest this election. |
Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
Edited by - Janko on 02 Nov 2010 16:47:26 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Nov 2010 : 20:26:07
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Originally posted by Janko
Thanks Nyarikangbanna,
it would have been meaningless otherwise to contest this election.
This is not "um mbarinkeh" business and there is the need to decry giving a tap on pointless comments! There is nothing of substance apart from same caricatures and entertainment here at Bantaba cyber club. Also the results simply reflects a defeat; even if by just a difference of one vote. WHAT IS AT STAKE IS A NATIONAL CAUSE AND A POLITICAL SYSTEM THAT JOINTLY AFFECTS ALL CITIZENS OR THE NATION.
WE KNEW WHY APRC ALWAYS THRIVE UNDER JAMMEH'S WATCH! GOVERNORS, CHIEFS, ALKALOS, CIVIL SERVANTS & LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENTS ARE ALL THREATEN TO PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO JAMMEH'S GOVERNMENT OR SUFFER; TRUE OR FALSE? CONFRONT THE REALITIES ON THE GROUND AND STOP THE FOOLISH OR BIASED POLITICS AS ELITES?
SO FAR UDP/NRP HAS NOT GIVEN ANY INFORMATION OR PLAYED ITS ROLE AS A PROGRESSIVE OPPOSITION THAT IS READY TO CHALLENGE OR CONFRONT APRC IN ALL FRONTS; ESPECIALLY THIS BY-ELECTION! ALL THE PROPAGANDA IS USING THE POINT NEWSPAPER FOR PUBLIC GALLERY AND HAS NO WEBSITE OR MEDIA FOR SENSITISATION AND INFORMATION.
CONGRATS TO THOSE HEROES WHO CAST FOR THE OPPOSITION AGAINST ALL ODDS AND HOSTILE POLITICAL TERRAIN! ALSO THOSE ON THE GROUND AND FRONT-LINE SACRIFICING TO MOBILISE THE FORCE THAT NEED A BETTER POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT & DEVELOPMENT FOR THE COMMON GOOD!
Halifa invest full time in Gambian politics and gather reliable statistics!
Refer Freedom online newspaper Gambia: Gambian Diaspora Opposition Running On An Empty Gas Tank under http://www.freedomnewspaper.com/Homepage/tabid/36/mid/367/newsid367/5701/Gambia--Gambian-Diaspora-Opposition-Running-On-An-Empty-Gas-Tank/Default.aspx
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 04 Nov 2010 : 00:48:27
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Kobo
The point I was driving at is; it would have been a waste to contest the seat now if it is going to be contested in the 2011 election. Now my question is answered and that the seat is not going to be contested in 2011. What part of that enquiry is “"um mbarinkeh" business…” whatever that is.
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2010 : 01:15:28
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Even the election would have been in 2011, it would not be a waste. First of all, by-election is always kind of a 'poll'. Let me see the what happened.
2008
MUHAMMED BARROW APRC M 1506 = % 54
MUHAMMEN KIJERA NADD M 1280 = % 46
2010
Kebbeh APRC 1817 = % 68
Barrow NADD 827 = % 32
Total number for APRC got increase by % 20.
Total number for NADD got decrease by % 35.
It is a moral boost for APRC. That is a one thing. And the voters. They realize that APRC is too strong. No one would want to be loser in the election. Now we have a FACT. APRC vote has increased by 20 percent compared to previous election, in the same riding.
For UDP. That is absolute the big defeat even though they don't contest. The voters see the lack of confidence in UDP even though soon-to-be-retired leader declares a victory. The party claims to be victorious but they failed to contest. Like I said UDP is not 'capable' does not have heart, skills, will and 'confidence' to be an alternative.
You know what they say 'you never give up fighting if you have heart'. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 04 Nov 2010 01:16:13 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2010 : 08:29:50
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Originally posted by Janko
Kobo
The point I was driving at is; it would have been a waste to contest the seat now if it is going to be contested in the 2011 election. Now my question is answered and that the seat is not going to be contested in 2011. What part of that enquiry is “"um mbarinkeh" business…” whatever that is.
Your answer did not show that Nyarikangbanna deserve ANY COMMENDATION FOR A JOB WELL DONE I HAVEN'T SEEN WHAT TO "THANK" NYARIKANGBANNA FOR?
Am gutted sensing feelings of fraternity secrets; due moral support and biased endorsements driven by "mboka to mboka" pact or respect accorded; between certain members of UDP/NRP militants?
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 04 Nov 2010 : 10:13:07
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Kobo,
If you have a score to settle with the said man, do that with him and stop hiding… behind….
I was not going to reply to that self-reviling statement, but it is so preconceived and lack of any reason that I have to emphasize this simple thing again. I thanked the said man because he gave a definite answer to my question unlike turk who did not know the answer but for reasons known to only him, had to say something … the agitator he is.
(T)urk, I will say this once; I do not have time for the middle-of-the-road
Why it would be a waste, in my opinion,
i) the opposition has very little resources therefore it would be better to gather strength and resources for the big fight (2011)
ii) from now to the next elections gaining or loosing that particular seat serves no strategic function for the opposition or its unity if it would be contested in a few months time
iii) the seat in question is not going to have any dramatic influence on events therefore better to save the stamina and energy for the big fight
Get a life, would you
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Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2010 : 12:58:47
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What a lame excuse to defend UDP/NRP boycotting without any news/information on this by-election?
WHERE IS THE CONFIDENCE TO CHALLENGE APRC IN ALL FRONTS[?
Turk deserve more commendation with his active participation & sound contributions our political discourse; IN MY OPINION!
Foroyaa for PDOIS/NADD always are current & maintain the momentum on Gambian politics! Refer on what they stand for from this editorial; FOROYAA Online - THE GAMBIA IN NEED OF SOCIAL CONSCIENCE - Editorial - Newspaper under http://www.foroyaa.gm/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5579
Also on politics of opportunism FOROYAA Online - THE PARTICIPATION OF GOVERNORS IN ELECTION CAMPAIGN IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL - Editorial - Newspaper under http://www.foroyaa.gm/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5554
Finally for those challenging Halifa's figures; the assurance on integrity of Halifa/Foroyaa is reflected from Editorial : REGISTRATION OF VOTERS AND CONSTITUENCY BOUNDARIES The Constitution Needs Amendment To Demarcate Constituencies under http://www.foroyaa.gm/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5541
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 04 Nov 2010 : 14:24:55
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"What a lame excuse to defend UDP/NRP boycotting without any news/information on this by-election?"
Well, interesting that you read something unintended into reason, good. Let me make it clear for those who are less gifted with simplicity, I do not intend to "decry" or acknowledge anything or anybody, I made just a simple observation. But then, as the saying goes, he who feels it knows it. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2010 : 15:17:32
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Janko
The problem with Gambians like you are about incapability that includes skills, will and heart in political process. These are practical things are essential in order to accomplish something. Your approach sitting in the comfortable home and attempt to provide your ideas will not work. You got to be ready for the fight. These flaws in thinking process in politics will never accomplish anything. Like I said you have data, information and knowledge but they are usually useless if you are not able to get wisdom out of them. Get a brain, will you!
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 04 Nov 2010 15:18:57 |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2010 : 15:27:07
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| I provided incorrect answer based on the incorrect question. Any by-election will be contested in the next general election. My error was thinking the next election is in 2011. However, since this is local election which will be held in 2013. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2010 : 15:38:50
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i) the opposition has very little resources therefore it would be better to gather strength and resources for the big fight (2011)
How much resources would be waste for this small municipal election? This is not the reason UDP did not show up. UDP did not show up previous election either. They just hide their weakness, they try to give impression that they are legit alternative as illusion. That is why they did not contest.
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ii) from now to the next elections gaining or loosing that particular seat serves no strategic function for the opposition or its unity if it would be contested in a few months time
Not a few months, the riding will be contested in 2013. more than 2 years UDP. Again, they did not want to expose how weak they are.
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iii) the seat in question is not going to have any dramatic influence on events therefore better to save the stamina and energy for the big fight
It has already done dramatic influence. APRC support increase by 20 % from the previous one. UDP has remained 0 percent. Obviously, loser is always optimistic which will be the reason why they will be crushed in the next election.
Many did not vote. Isn't it the great opportunity for UDP to get the voters did not vote? Of course it is, but if you don't have confidence that you will win, you will find an excuse. Your reasons are nothing but lame excuses. Sorry to say that. But that is the truth. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 04 Nov 2010 15:49:56 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2010 : 18:08:34
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Thanks Turk for addressing the cheap UDP/NRP militants propaganda; damaging rhetoric's, smearing campaign, cynicism and intellectual dis-honesty to appreciate efforts & ACTIONS of Halifa/PDOIS/NADD/Foroyaa GEARED FOR A NATIONAL CAUSE OF A BETTER GAMBIA!
IT WOULD BE A WORST CASE SCENARIO IF NADD DID WHAT UDP/NRP FAILED TO DO WITH THE BY-ELECTION!
HOWEVER DEFEAT IS A DISASTER & HARDER CHALLENGE FOR ALL OPPOSITION PARTY 2011!
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2010 : 19:11:02
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Kobo
At least Halifa is a politician. UDP is bunch of wanna-bes. There is nothing about them impresses me.
- They boycott election. I mean if you are a party that will not show up in the election, why do you exist? And this election is not significant, so don't show up. What kind of mentality this party has declaring they will be victories in 2011.
- The UDP leader chicken out when its party members go prison. If you are not a general who is willing to die in the battle. Just retire. Certainly he is no Mandela. Halifa at least is willing to go prison.
- The politician wannabes don't have any platform, don't have any program, don't have any ideology, don't have any website. Their best political platform is opposing other opposition parties.
- And their supporters, usually mute when they are challenged.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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