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turk
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 Posted - 12 Sep 2010 : 20:30:55
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Orthodox muslims?
"Lā ilāha illallāh, Muhammadun rasūlullāh" (There is no god but God, and Muhammad is the messenger of God) suffice to be a Muslim. By saying that, you denounce Roog.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Sep 2010 : 20:52:11
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| Dumb mamluk! As we all know that's not the only principle of islam. LMFAO! In any case, why did thousands of people all the way to Nigeria,Benin, Europe and America came to the Xoy this year? This mamluk obviously does not understand the principles of islam. Call yourself a muslim! LMAO! |
Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 12 Sep 2010 : 21:01:57
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| Sub-human. You can't understand how we humans think. That is the minimum principle of Islam. There are other principles, but if you don't follow, that is not good. However, you don't fast, prey, hajj etc, you are still a muslim. I enjoyed the cultural event of Xoy. It was good entertainment and cultural experience. I like to experience variety of different cultural events and observe other religions rituals. There are many Christians and visit Islamic rituals i.e. sufism and participate in Islamic ritual i.e. sufism but that does not make them Muslims if they do not make the deceleration. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 12 Sep 2010 21:06:06 |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
556 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2010 : 21:30:03
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Look at this confused camel jockey! Go and study your religion understand before you comment on it. LOL!
Oh by the way, those people were praying to our Gods, venerating our Saints etc.
Now go and play with yourself sand monkey. |
Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 12 Sep 2010 : 22:15:23
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Turk,somehow I don't see you as a subservient genie granting peoples wishes,as depicted by your changed avatar,your previous avatar was much more suitable for you.  |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 12 Sep 2010 : 22:38:55
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No more new ideas when people start to call each other Sub-human, Camel Jockey and Mamluk! You will both get a longer time-out the next time if this trend continues. Perhaps these words should be added to the bad word filter. 
By the way this topic seems to be exhausted!
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kobo
United Kingdom
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 14 Sep 2010 : 16:20:39
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Tam,
Its been a while. I am just busy these days. Actually am still in Banjul looking after the business. No terrorist training as u think lol.
We are not arab worshippers but muslims on equal footing with any muslim , be him arab, african, caucasian , watevr, as long as the Kalima is the same.
All muslims today at one point in their history worship some other god(s). Arabia before Rasool came were pagans or animists even amongst the holy prophet's family. Those that saw the 'light', Islam left the 'darkness' of paganism to embrace this great religion.
i have a question for you. Does ur god, Roog have a surname/ if yes wat is it.
Chi Jaama
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 14 Sep 2010 : 16:49:42
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Arabs were animist? I think that is an insult to Tamsier. lol. So this is the question? Which one is better?
A Muslim Serere?
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An Animist Arab?
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Sep 2010 : 22:10:40
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 14 Sep 2010 : 23:54:26
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Originally posted by gambiabev
No one is better. All perspectives on life should be respected.
Wise comments and same as extract from Daily Observer editorial; "The Holy Qur'an says: "Call unto the way of thy Lord with wisdom and fair exhortation, and reason with them in the better way". This is why cohesion is rejected by Islam and declares that there is no compulsion in religion. Beyond tolerance, Islam supports harmony with other religions. In the edict he issued in Hijri, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) gave full protection to Christians of conquered territories in all religious, spiritual, social, cultural, economic and legal matters; he had warned that anyone who went against these provisions was an accursed offender on lslam. Non-Muslim citizens were treated as equals of Muslims. In fact, it was incumbent on the Governments to protect their life and property so much so that they were exempt from military service. Islam."
The Daily Observer editorial Stop the religious division under http://observer.gm/africa/gambia/article/stop-the-religious-division
ALWAYS THE TRUTH (FOR GLORIOUS QURAN) & VICTORY (FOR ISLAM)!
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kayjatta
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Posted - 15 Sep 2010 : 06:54:02
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Originally posted by MADIBA
Tam,
Its been a while. I am just busy these days. Actually am still in Banjul looking after the business. No terrorist training as u think lol.
We are not arab worshippers but muslims on equal footing with any muslim , be him arab, african, caucasian , watevr, as long as the Kalima is the same.
All muslims today at one point in their history worship some other god(s). Arabia before Rasool came were pagans or animists even amongst the holy prophet's family. Those that saw the 'light', Islam left the 'darkness' of paganism to embrace this great religion.
i have a question for you. Does ur god, Roog have a surname/ if yes wat is it.
Chi Jaama
Is Roog, the Serere animist god, not the same as the Ruh(u) , one of many references to the Islamic God? Perhaps you guys are talking about the same thing... |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 15 Sep 2010 : 09:34:13
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kay
There is no reference for God in Islam called 'Ruh(u)'.
'Ruh' means spirit but that is not God.
Closest Allah's names to Roog are;
Razzaq (Provider)
Rafi (Exalter)
Raqib (Watcher)
Rauf (Kind) |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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kayjatta
2978 Posts |
Posted - 15 Sep 2010 : 10:13:24
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| You are probably right! I guess no Trinity here then. May be it is the Egyptian god, Ra(h) . |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 15 Sep 2010 : 14:32:48
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Probably you are right. African Animism and Afro-Asiatic Animism (Arabs, Eastern Africans, Egyptians) are closely related so Roog is most likely is a buddy of pre-Islamic Arabic Gods.
It is actually interesting both Arabs and Sereres have the exactly same religious history. Both Arabs and Sereres, former animists became Muslims. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 15 Sep 2010 14:34:25 |
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