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kayjatta
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 Posted - 15 Sep 2010 : 20:54:25
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Originally posted by turk
Probably you are right. African Animism and Afro-Asiatic Animism (Arabs, Eastern Africans, Egyptians) are closely related so Roog is most likely is a buddy of pre-Islamic Arabic Gods.
It is actually interesting both Arabs and Sereres have the exactly same religious history. Both Arabs and Sereres, former animists became Muslims.
Probbly Roog is the source of all gods. It is probably that Egyptian god Ra(h) is derived from the West African (Serere) chief god, Roog... |
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concort
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Posted - 15 Sep 2010 : 23:28:58
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There you go, Madiba. Our learned friends Kay and Turk have finally solved the puzzle for you. Roog's full name is widely believed to be Roog Ra(h), III. I'm just saying... 
Disclaimer: For the record, I'm a Serer but I have neither met nor have any association with Roog Rah Rah. Should you wish to hold me accountable for my strong disassociation with Roog Rah, I will have no choice but to hire Kay Jatta to represent me in a court of law.
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Originally posted by MADIBA
Tam,
Its been a while. I am just busy these days. Actually am still in Banjul looking after the business. No terrorist training as u think lol.
We are not arab worshippers but muslims on equal footing with any muslim , be him arab, african, caucasian , watevr, as long as the Kalima is the same.
All muslims today at one point in their history worship some other god(s). Arabia before Rasool came were pagans or animists even amongst the holy prophet's family. Those that saw the 'light', Islam left the 'darkness' of paganism to embrace this great religion.
i have a question for you. Does ur god, Roog have a surname/ if yes wat is it.
Chi Jaama
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turk
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Posted - 15 Sep 2010 : 23:58:28
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lol.
Concort is serere too? Mansa mentioned he was serere too. Did not know there are many sereres!!!! |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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concort
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 00:08:20
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| Yes sir...I'm a Serere for real but I speak Aku with both of my parents back home. So, please don't ask me if I know "jack" about the Serere language. |
As Salamu Alaikum Waramatullah Wabarakatu |
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turk
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 00:52:57
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I am more familiar with Fulas and Wolofs. I would love to spend a few months in Gambia in villages, with different tribes. That would be great experience.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 03:18:44
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Originally posted by kayjatta
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Originally posted by MADIBA
Tam,
Its been a while. I am just busy these days. Actually am still in Banjul looking after the business. No terrorist training as u think lol.
We are not arab worshippers but muslims on equal footing with any muslim , be him arab, african, caucasian , watevr, as long as the Kalima is the same.
All muslims today at one point in their history worship some other god(s). Arabia before Rasool came were pagans or animists even amongst the holy prophet's family. Those that saw the 'light', Islam left the 'darkness' of paganism to embrace this great religion.
i have a question for you. Does ur god, Roog have a surname/ if yes wat is it.
Chi Jaama
Is Roog, the Serere animist god, not the same as the Ruh(u) , one of many references to the Islamic God? Perhaps you guys are talking about the same thing...
Kay,
Absolutely not! Goodness gracious me! Blasphemy! And for the record there is no such thing as Roog Ra. Roog Sain is the correct name if you want to know, which is what Madiba was referring to but I couldn't be bothered to respond to him because I have told him already couple of times before and he already knew. He was only trying to degrade Serere's religion as muslims do hence why I didn't dignify him by responding. Sain is a Serere surname, rooted in Africa - Senegambia not Arabia or Egypt. Roog is both masculine and feminine and sometimes, depending on the prayer and objective, the feminine form is used: Yaye Roog. Yaye is a Serere word meaning mother. Any Senegambia who can speak Wolof or Serere will no doubt be familiar with the word. There are thousands of words found in Wolof that are rooted in Serere. If I am to list them all I will be here all day.
Ra is the sun god of Egypt. Roog is the supreme Deity of all the Serere Gods and Goddesses e.g.- Thiorak, Takar, Mendise etc etc. I hope that answers your question.
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For those claiming false Serere heritage in order to try and advance their islamic fundamentalism and degrade Serere religion, this is what I have to say to you:
It is dishonourable for certain people here to claim to be Sereres when they are not especially when their main reason for doing so is to advance their islamic fundamentalism and ridicule Serere religion. It is true that few Senegambian tribes e.g. the Wolofs trace their ancient lineage to the Serere people, but they are now totally separate from the Sereres. And for the record, there is no connection between Serere and Aku. Not only is this person trying to insult the Sereres, he is also insulting Akus with his cheap jokes. You will never find an Orthodox Serere Animist claiming to be muslim or Christian just to play games as certain people here are trying to do. In similarity, you will be hard press to find a Serere muslim or Christian disrespecting Serere Religion. They will stick to their new religion [islam or christianity even the orthodox ones] but will never ever try to degrade Serere religion. In fact, they respect it. They will never ever use defamatory language to refer to it unlike some none Serere muslims.
Furthermore, the tongue and big smile icons used by the biggest islamic fundamentalist here who say he speaks Aku, I find laughable. Even the dumbest Serere knows little about Serere culture and history. May I remind the fundamentalist that, we will never die out as he wishes. Our people, culture, history, religion and heritage will never die. We have defeated stronger armies to hold on to our ancient religion and culture for at least a thousand years. Further, my people have committed matyrdom rather than cowardly submit to islam in other to save their lives. The word 'Gorie' [honourable] is held in high regard by the Sereres something this fundamentalist will never know. We are governed by codes of honour that is not only evident in our Religion and Culture, but also in our names. Furthermore, even if all the Sereres of Senegambia were to die or convert to islam, our noble Religion will still never die. This is evident among both Sereres converts and none Serere converts to islam. Also, our ancient Animist Festival Names are still used today to refer to islamic festivals/ceremonies of Senegambia e.g. Tobaski, Gamo, Koriteh, Wery Kor etc. All of these are ancient Serere Animist Festivals. Not arabic and certainly nothing to do with islam! It predates islam as well as christianity.
THOSE WHO WISH TO KILL US WILL NEVER SUCCEED. WE HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED IN THE NAME OF HONOUR TO PRESERVE OUR ANCIENT RELIGION AND WAY OF LIFE AND WE HAVE PREVAILED. SINCE WE HAVE DONE IT BEFORE, WE CAN DO IT AGAIN. WE WILL NOT BE DISNOHONOURED. NEVER HAVE! NEVER WILL!
WE WILL NEVER DIE! REMEMBER THAT.
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Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
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Prince
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 10:24:02
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Tamsier,
I've tons of questions and they could be besides the main topic of this thread, so please bare with me: I was wondering if followers of the Serere religion proselytize... In other words, do you guys try to recruit new members? Or is your faith like Judaism, in which people are born Jewish and cannot convert from other faiths?
Do you guys try to encourage your modern day tribesmen who follow the monotheistic Middle Eastern religions to at least participate in some forms of cultural activities?
Have you read John Mbiti's, Introduction to African Religion? If yes, how does the faiths described in it compares to the Serere's?
I'm am not a great fan of history but i use to spend a great deal of time learning how Africans lived their daily lives... and i'm assuming that religion defined a significant portion of lives.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 11:50:53
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Prince wrote:
"like Judaism, in which people are born Jewish and cannot convert from other faiths?"
Don't think that's right this link clarifies the matter:
http://www.ehow.com/how_4717460_convert-judaism-become-jewish.html
Religion is a personal belief,I am not into religious matters,but I thought that this statement was incorrect,the above link shows the situation.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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concort
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 13:56:04
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If you were born and raised as a Muslim, they called you a fundamentalist, radical, a coward who gave in to Islam. What a joke? If you utter such nonsense again, I will have to speak to Rooq Rah Rah, III about your filthy mouth and attitude towards others.
For the record, I am far from being a radical or fundamentalist. Also, I never gave in to Islam as a result to save my life. I was blessed by the Almighty God (Allah) to be among those who belief in the One and Only God; I pray five times daily to Him; Fast during the holy month of Ramadan; Give out Zakkat from the sustenance He bestowed upon me; And I made the journey of a lifetime to Mecca (Hajj) a couple of years ago. Does that make me a radical?
Now, allow me to draw your attention to my Serere heritage and clarify a few things to you. My great grand father's name was Laity (A Serere - last name withheld) who migrated to Banjul from Senegal, Saloum) and my Great Grand Mother's name was Debba Sarr (A Serere as well). My grand father had two wives and one of them was from Sierra Leone who spoke Aku fluently. My mom was born in Sierra Leone as well as her parents. Thus, we had more people in my family who spoke Aku than Serere. Since three out of four of my grand parents spoke Aku as well as my parents, we were left with no choice but to speak Aku at home. However, I speak Wolof with my siblings as well as my close and distance relatives.
You darn well know that no one has ever made fun or disrespected the Christian or Hindu or any other religions here at the Bantaba. A few people have repeatedly asked that you stick to your religion/cult and let others to theirs. Is that too much to ask?
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Originally posted by tamsier
Kay,
Absolutely not! Goodness gracious me! Blasphemy! And for the record there is no such thing as Roog Ra. Roog Sain is the correct name if you want to know, which is what Madiba was referring to but I couldn't be bothered to respond to him because I have told him already couple of times before and he already knew. He was only trying to degrade Serere's religion as muslims do hence why I didn't dignify him by responding. Sain is a Serere surname, rooted in Africa - Senegambia not Arabia or Egypt. Roog is both masculine and feminine and sometimes, depending on the prayer and objective, the feminine form is used: Yaye Roog. Yaye is a Serere word meaning mother. Any Senegambia who can speak Wolof or Serere will no doubt be familiar with the word. There are thousands of words found in Wolof that are rooted in Serere. If I am to list them all I will be here all day.
Ra is the sun god of Egypt. Roog is the supreme Deity of all the Serere Gods and Goddesses e.g.- Thiorak, Takar, Mendise etc etc. I hope that answers your question.
P.S
For those claiming false Serere heritage in order to try and advance their islamic fundamentalism and degrade Serere religion, this is what I have to say to you:
It is dishonourable for certain people here to claim to be Sereres when they are not especially when their main reason for doing so is to advance their islamic fundamentalism and ridicule Serere religion. It is true that few Senegambian tribes e.g. the Wolofs trace their ancient lineage to the Serere people, but they are now totally separate from the Sereres. And for the record, there is no connection between Serere and Aku. Not only is this person trying to insult the Sereres, he is also insulting Akus with his cheap jokes. You will never find an Orthodox Serere Animist claiming to be muslim or Christian just to play games as certain people here are trying to do. In similarity, you will be hard press to find a Serere muslim or Christian disrespecting Serere Religion. They will stick to their new religion [islam or christianity even the orthodox ones] but will never ever try to degrade Serere religion. In fact, they respect it. They will never ever use defamatory language to refer to it unlike some none Serere muslims.
Furthermore, the tongue and big smile icons used by the biggest islamic fundamentalist here who say he speaks Aku, I find laughable. Even the dumbest Serere knows little about Serere culture and history. May I remind the fundamentalist that, we will never die out as he wishes. Our people, culture, history, religion and heritage will never die. We have defeated stronger armies to hold on to our ancient religion and culture for at least a thousand years. Further, my people have committed matyrdom rather than cowardly submit to islam in other to save their lives. The word 'Gorie' [honourable] is held in high regard by the Sereres something this fundamentalist will never know. We are governed by codes of honour that is not only evident in our Religion and Culture, but also in our names. Furthermore, even if all the Sereres of Senegambia were to die or convert to islam, our noble Religion will still never die. This is evident among both Sereres converts and none Serere converts to islam. Also, our ancient Animist Festival Names are still used today to refer to islamic festivals/ceremonies of Senegambia e.g. Tobaski, Gamo, Koriteh, Wery Kor etc. All of these are ancient Serere Animist Festivals. Not arabic and certainly nothing to do with islam! It predates islam as well as christianity.
THOSE WHO WISH TO KILL US WILL NEVER SUCCEED. WE HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED IN THE NAME OF HONOUR TO PRESERVE OUR ANCIENT RELIGION AND WAY OF LIFE AND WE HAVE PREVAILED. SINCE WE HAVE DONE IT BEFORE, WE CAN DO IT AGAIN. WE WILL NOT BE DISNOHONOURED. NEVER HAVE! NEVER WILL!
WE WILL NEVER DIE! REMEMBER THAT.
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turk
USA
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 14:34:02
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Concort
Thanks for this post.
This is why I am fighting with Tamsier. Not only you were born and raised, you have a right to ‘choose’ the religion of Islam or ‘remain’ as a Muslim even thought your ancestry is ‘serere animist’. That is a basic right and you or anyone does not deserve bigotry insult.
Tamsier position is not only ‘religious’ , he is the one who is radical animist, but this get worse when he wrap this with his racist and nationalist view. That is the most significant difference of Islam. Islam is universal, ‘color blind’ religion beyond nationalism. Our religion is beyond race and ethnicity.
Unfortunately, there are Muslims, just like Tamsier suffering from ultra racist and nationalist view. BAAS party in recent Arab History. Or, in Turkey, we have these sick people, ultra nationalist “turkic” agenda like Tamsier. Some of these Turkic bigots insult Turks for not being ‘Shamanistic”. In our religion, nationalism and racism are forbidden. The community is based on brotherhood regardless of race and ethnicity. What a great principle!
And, this bigotry insult of ‘fundamentalist or radical’ is absolutely unfair. We are reading your posts and most of them about information about Islam and you have not post any post indicating any ‘radicalism’ in religion. I think so that you have never promoted radicalism or fundamentalism here. This is usual for bigots to insult a Muslim being radical, fundamentalist and terrorist or Taliban.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 19:01:29
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| Concort, Tamsier is not refering to you as an individual. He is generally refering to how Islam arrived and spread in Africa and the Gambia particularly. In mnay cases and instances, there was eploitation and resistance and bloodshed. You only arrived after the battle was over. Your ancestors conquered already and subdued I frankly think we should return to our roots. To the gods of our ancestors. To the supreme god Roog for example... |
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concort
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 19:07:01
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That's your prerogative to return to your roots and you are free to do so at anytime. Who is stopping you?
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As Salamu Alaikum Waramatullah Wabarakatu |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 19:42:05
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| I see the Sand monkey from Turkey is still here. 'Fighting with Tamsier'. LOL! Not a chance! Any opportunity to blabber about Turkey! No one gives a toss about Turkey. So take your camel and hump back to the desert. |
Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
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tamsier
United Kingdom
556 Posts |
Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 19:45:19
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Originally posted by Prince
Tamsier,
I've tons of questions and they could be besides the main topic of this thread, so please bare with me: I was wondering if followers of the Serere religion proselytize... In other words, do you guys try to recruit new members? Or is your faith like Judaism, in which people are born Jewish and cannot convert from other faiths?
Do you guys try to encourage your modern day tribesmen who follow the monotheistic Middle Eastern religions to at least participate in some forms of cultural activities?
Have you read John Mbiti's, Introduction to African Religion? If yes, how does the faiths described in it compares to the Serere's?
I'm am not a great fan of history but i use to spend a great deal of time learning how Africans lived their daily lives... and i'm assuming that religion defined a significant portion of lives.
Prince,
Unlike islam and Christianity, Serere just like any African Animistic Religion do not proselytize – neither by force nor by evangelism/recruiting. This is why you will never hear African Animist forcefully converting others. Yes, our religion is an ethno-religion [somewhat similar to Judaism], but is also a way of life. This has been the rule for generations beyond memory. Having said that, it does not stop a person who is not of Serere heritage from converting or adhering to Serere religious rituals, codes etc. I can give you numerous examples of this but I will stick to few. The Gelowars of Kabu where not Sereres. However when they escaped the Battle of Turubang in 1335 and south refuge in the Kingdom of Sine, they converted as well as gave their daughters and sisters in marriage to the old Serere noble paternal families. Not only did they convert, but they and their descendants pledged allegiance to the Serere Deities, followed the Serere religious rituals, language and culture and fought to preserve it. Even in the Xoy festivals, there are none Sereres who have gone through the initiation with our High Priests who attend and do practice the religion. Some of them are muslims or Christians who mixed it but others are Animists. Some of these people include: the Lebou, Wolof, Fula, Tukuloor, Sarahole, Mandinka, Yoruba etc. This brings me to your next question: Serere converts to the monotheistic and their participation in Serere culture. Yes, we don’t even have to encourage them. The most of them do. This is why I said in my previous post ‘you will be heard press to find a Serere convert insulting Serere religion’. Even during muslims’ celebration of Tobaski, if you go to Saloum, the Sereres converts there will perform the eid as islam dictates, but with a twist: Serere Animism. Further, they will spend the rest of the entire day devoted to the religion of their forefathers. A day filled with rituals that are rooted in Sererism.
No I haven’t read John Mbiti's book. I will try and find it in abebooks. They might have it. The title sounds rather interesting and I’m sure it will make a great read. There are similarities in many Sub Saharan African Animist Faiths. We may call our deities and religious practices by different names due language differences and geography but one is bound to find similarities.
Yes! Our religion is not just a religion for the sake of religion, but it defines our life, culture, history and traditions. You cannot know the history, culture and tradition etc unless you go back to the source: Animism. It is in our religion were all these are set in stone as well as our laws: land law, criminal law, civil, tort/negligence. There is not a single legal case that the Serere religion does not have answer for: e.g. land tenure, murder, adultery, contract, theft etc etc. Hence why Serere just like any African Animist religion is a way of life.
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Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
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tamsier
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 19:48:04
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Originally posted by concort
If you were born and raised as a Muslim, they called you a fundamentalist, radical, a coward who gave in to Islam. What a joke? If you utter such nonsense again, I will have to speak to Rooq Rah Rah, III about your filthy mouth and attitude towards others.
For the record, I am far from being a radical or fundamentalist. Also, I never gave in to Islam as a result to save my life. I was blessed by the Almighty God (Allah) to be among those who belief in the One and Only God; I pray five times daily to Him; Fast during the holy month of Ramadan; Give out Zakkat from the sustenance He bestowed upon me; And I made the journey of a lifetime to Mecca (Hajj) a couple of years ago. Does that make me a radical?
Now, allow me to draw your attention to my Serere heritage and clarify a few things to you. My great grand father's name was Laity (A Serere - last name withheld) who migrated to Banjul from Senegal, Saloum) and my Great Grand Mother's name was Debba Sarr (A Serere as well). My grand father had two wives and one of them was from Sierra Leone who spoke Aku fluently. My mom was born in Sierra Leone as well as her parents. Thus, we had more people in my family who spoke Aku than Serere. Since three out of four of my grand parents spoke Aku as well as my parents, we were left with no choice but to speak Aku at home. However, I speak Wolof with my siblings as well as my close and distance relatives.
You darn well know that no one has ever made fun or disrespected the Christian or Hindu or any other religions here at the Bantaba. A few people have repeatedly asked that you stick to your religion/cult and let others to theirs. Is that too much to ask?
Well! Well! Well! The Islamic fundamentalist has spoken! Where were you all this time since I last blasted you? I knew you will come back for more I just didn’t know when. I give you credit though for waiting several months before coming back for more unlike the sand monkey of Bantaba. Your first paragraph above sums you up very well. Like a true islam terrorist. What kept you so long? I knew this distance will never last. They never do. An Islamic fundamentalist is always an Islamic fundamentalist. Cowards, serfs of arabia and their imperialism throught the gate of islam, is exactly what you are. You are the wonders. The disease of Africa. The spongers of the Continent with no loyalty or ties to her people or the land. Your loyalty rest with the arabs. Your lords and masters. In destroying your own culture, religion and tradition through your own cowardice, now borrow from the very people you hate : African Animist/ Sereres. How ironic! How pathetic! Just say thank you to the Sereres or shut up, rather than trying to bite the hand that feeds you. You are the joke. Do you honestly think you ridiculous blasphemious language against Roog [a true God unlike your arab god allah] will affect me? Ha ha ha ha ha ! Freedom of speech and expression [as long as it does not go beyond that] is the beauty of African Animism and Serere Animism is no exception. The same cannot be said for your arab cult islam. You will remember your place and speak when you are spoken to. I thought my last reply to you was implicitly clear in that regard. What caused you to address me all of a sudden? Were you bored with your Islamic propaganda or did you ran out of Islamic text to copy and paste in order to subtly promote your Islamic propaganda before recruiting people through the private message board as Islamic terrorist? Your obsession with Islamic indoctrination text is unhealthy and I have reported you long ago to the appropriate bodies to watch your move. We already know there are traitors amongst us who and is only a matter of time before they take it to the next level [suicide bombing].
Damn! What is this obsession with certain people wanting to be Sereres? Interestingly, it is two of biggest Islamic fundamentalist on Bantaba who claim to be of Serere heritage in their desire to promote their Islamic fundamentalist. Knowing that, I am a Serere and hate the cult islam to the very core, it would be fitting to claim Serere heritage when in fact they aren’t. Interestingly, neither of them have the noble qualities of Sereres. Neither of them can speak Serere; neither of them are loyal to the Serere cause and to Sine. They would probably jump in joy if Sine was engulfed in fire. Neither of them know Serere culture, history or religion [Roog Ra. LOL!] etc. My word! You and Mansasulu have to be the most useless Sereres I have ever conversed with or seen in my entire life. My word! I bet you two don’t even know what Tiim or Kalkular you belong. You cannot even recite Dana -as which every Serere child learns from childhoold. Even a 6 year old! LMFAO! You guys are looking desperate, pathetic and weak. You even have to lie about your heritage in order to score point. Oops I forgot. This is now a phenomenon among certain Senegambian muslims families who fake their genealogy by claiming to be descended from arabs and then went further by saying from the Qurashi tribe. How pathetic! How embarrassing! How humiliating! What is wrong with your African heritage? Are you so ashamed of it you have to fake your genealogy and claim to be descended from arabs so that you get closer to mohammad? Does your god has a problem with you being Africans? You bet! Damn! Not only do you people have to learn the quran in a foreign language and recite it in a foreign language, it is only the very few of you can actually understand what they are blabbering about. It would not be an over estimation if I say 95% or more of you do not even understand it. it is not even written in your language so that you can read and understand it. Therefore, when the muslim masses of Senegambia say prayers reciting verses of the quran, the majority of them have no bloody clue what they are saying. How pathetic! Yet, they are among the biggest claimers of being muslim. However, that does not stop them from going to the from time to time in order to get guidance and answers to their questions. After that, they go back home and pretend as if nothing as ever happened. Some don’t even hide it any more. Shameful!
Further, to even publish fake names here claiming to be their descendants just goes to show your treachery knows no bounds. You will do whatever you can to achieve you goal even if it means giving out fabricated Serere names and surname to prove a point. There are few Sereres here including myself. Your fabrication is not going to wash with me. You are a Serere all of a sudden! Not in a million years. And for your information, just because someone has a Serere first name does not mean they are necessarily Sereres. They might have been named after a Serere. In similarity, someone with a muslim first name does not necessarily mean they are muslims. They might have been named after a muslim.
Furthermore, I couldn’t careless who insults Christianity or Hinduism. I have no connection to Hindus so have no business talking about it or insulting it here. Why even bring Hinduism or Christianity to this? LMAO! In any case, as for Christianity, I have spoken against it right here on instances where it was relevant /appropriate to do so. No matter what evil Christianity has done for centuries, it is islam which is the most evil. My people never went to war against Christians on merely on the ground of religion. Yes, they did fought against people who were Christians but it was political and economic NOT religious. Islam on the other hand wanted to fight on all three fronts. Even now, the Senegambian muslim masses not only do not respect our religion and that of other Animist Tribes e.g. Jola Animist etc, they also bar Animist Festivals and Ceremonies from being aired in the media. They don’t mind promoting islam and Christianity events but not Animist events. Islamic propaganda in particular has penetrated our media: radio, Tv, press and dominated it which no room for Animist. Also, certain muslims like yourself like to fabricate the truth, impose your Islamic propaganda and distort history. I am here to ensure historical truth is never fabricated. The muslims have been trying to fabricate Senegambian history for nearly 150 years. They will do anything to silence those who dare to speak the truth.
Come! Come! We both know that this is not merely about sticking to our religion and others to theres. It is bigger than that [see above]. Now go and pray to your arab cult god al -ilah with and for goodness sake stop asking children to beg [talibes] so you can put food on the table and treat them like dogs. Is that too much to ask? Pathetic!
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Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
Edited by - tamsier on 16 Sep 2010 20:09:41 |
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