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tamsier
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 10 Sep 2010 : 19:18:31
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Originally posted by kayjatta
The Florida pastor, Terry Jones, who also authored a book called "Islam is of the Devil" (I have a copy Tamsier, if you need one. Just make sure Mansa sulu don't see it  )
Thanks Kay but I found out about the book couple of days ago and have ordered a copy. Awaiting delivery. I am sure it will be a wonderful read. |
Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 10 Sep 2010 : 19:32:10
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I do also think the upcoming New York Mosque/Islamic Center needs to move further away from G-Zero...
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Prince
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Posted - 10 Sep 2010 : 20:04:51
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Kasap! I will. Oh by the way, I have finished burning the last copy. It was written in complete arabic just like the ones I burn years ago. You should have seen the flames in my back garden. It was a wonderful site. Even though I don't drink, I even went to my local supermarket to buy a bottle of wine and chop of ham to burn them with it. I burn the book with the ham and later pour in some alcohol just for my satisfaction. It was so liberating. You should have seen the smile on my face.
Tamsier Sir, please tell me you are kidding... |
"When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty." |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
556 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2010 : 22:01:27
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| NOP! I was going to throw it away any way because I have no use for it any more, but since I was being threatened, I decided to go the whole way. I am not in the habbit of burning books but these meant nothing to me. They add nothing to my life. As promised, I intend to go to my nearest shop tomorrow to buy another one [may be two] to coincide with the burn fire day in America [whether it happens there or not it is happening at mine]. Sereres always keep their promise and we will not be threatened or bullied. We bow to no one other than our Gods. Never have never will. |
Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
Edited by - tamsier on 10 Sep 2010 22:04:30 |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 10 Sep 2010 : 22:17:19
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Originally posted by turk
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I do also think the upcoming New York Mosque/Islamic Center needs to move further away from G-Zero...
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Same reason why Pastor Jones should not burn the Quran. Other people's feelings and sensibilities. Some rights are better not asserted in certain situations... |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 10 Sep 2010 : 22:42:56
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Oh. I thought, your country has freedom of religious expression. Apparently, we can be selective when we apply freedoms in certain situations. And building mosque in New York as offensive as Jones's burning Quran.
Reason 1 : Jones wants to burn Quran. It is offensive. It is negative. It is promoting hate.
Reason 2 : Muslims want to build mosque. That is also offensive???????? Building mosque is a right that has no NEGATIVITY, it is not promoting hate.
This is the most ridiculous, illogical you ever made in Bantaba. Congrats.
WTF?
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 10 Sep 2010 22:46:04 |
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Prince
507 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2010 : 23:38:18
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NOP! I was going to throw it away any way because I have no use for it any more, but since I was being threatened, I decided to go the whole way. I am not in the habbit of burning books but these meant nothing to me. They add nothing to my life. As promised, I intend to go to my nearest shop tomorrow to buy another one [may be two] to coincide with the burn fire day in America [whether it happens there or not it is happening at mine]. Sereres always keep their promise and we will not be threatened or bullied. We bow to no one other than our Gods. Never have never will.
It is hard to believe that you'd go through all these troubles; cash, energy, and TIME... just to make a point or crank up to some random and anonymous person on the internet.
For all we know, some of the religious guys we argue with here could be pedophiles with bottles of vodka under their armpit while they type.
I don't think I'd ever have your kind of a strong conviction towards any issue, but to each his own. |
"When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty." |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
556 Posts |
Posted - 11 Sep 2010 : 01:17:25
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Originally posted by Prince
It is hard to believe that you'd go through all these troubles; cash, energy, and TIME... just to make a point or crank up to some random and anonymous person on the internet..... I don't think I'd ever have your kind of a strong conviction towards any issue, but to each his own.
Believe me, when you hate something with a vengeance, you will do anything to show your hatred of it. But as stated above, I have done it before – long before I even joined this forum. Doing it again is nothing to me. Most importantly, I got great satisfaction doing it. This cult and its book epitomises every thing that is evil. Besides, the total cost was not that expensive.
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Originally posted by Prince
For all we know, some of the religious guys we argue with here could be pedophiles with bottles of vodka under their armpit while they type.
LOL! You would be surprised. Didn’t mohammad married a 6 year old child [Ayesha]?
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Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 11 Sep 2010 : 06:01:41
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I condemn this hateful, racist sub-human. It is a disease of this forum. God damn it.
It admits that it is hateful individual. Full of hatred. It says it gets great satisfaction. I knew it was a sicko. Someone must be call social service for it as its family is in danger!
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 11 Sep 2010 06:02:24 |
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kayjatta
2978 Posts |
Posted - 11 Sep 2010 : 07:06:34
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Originally posted by turk
Oh. I thought, your country has freedom of religious expression. Apparently, we can be selective when we apply freedoms in certain situations. And building mosque in New York as offensive as Jones's burning Quran.
Reason 1 : Jones wants to burn Quran. It is offensive. It is negative. It is promoting hate.
Reason 2 : Muslims want to build mosque. That is also offensive???????? Building mosque is a right that has no NEGATIVITY, it is not promoting hate.
This is the most ridiculous, illogical you ever made in Bantaba. Congrats.
WTF?
This is what i mean, Turk:
1. Pastor Jones has a right to burn the Quran as a show of protest...
2. The New York Imam also has a right to build a mosque near or at the site o G-Zero.
3. Pastor Jones should not burn the Quran in order to promote peace and good neighborliness. Burning the Quran will hurt many people's feelings and could incite violence.
4. A mosque should not be build near or at G-Zero in order to promote peace and good neighborliness. Building a mosque at G-Zero will hurt the feelings of many people and could incite violence. G-Zero is a sacred ground for victims of 911. Building a mosque there is considered by many as a triumph of terrorism, and it hurts their feelings when commemorating the death of their loved ones. Muslims should not find it difficult to understand that sensibility and respect it. But insisting to build the mosque despite public outcry and so much controversy speaks fo itself... |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
556 Posts |
Posted - 11 Sep 2010 : 10:32:46
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People should stop pu-ss-yfooting around this cult of death and distruction [islam]. The 9/11 incident as well as the London bombings are recent examples of how wicked this cult is. How come everyone can examine and openly criticise other religions but people have to watch their tongue when it comes to islam? I will tell you, because they are frightened of the death and distruction that will result if they do so. These muslims know this and have used it to do whatever they like without being questioned. These people want to construct the islamic centre next year 11th September - the 10th anniversary of 9/11. How disrespectful! You see! This arab cult has no respect for anyone or life. Unless people rise up against islam it will continue to do whatever it likes without being challenged. It is so refreshing to see new people rising and speaking out against it.
Thank the Gods, victory is within our grasp. Looking forward to my burn fire today.
ROOG A FA HA |
Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Sep 2010 : 12:31:01
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| Tamsier go seek help. You need it. The hate in you will be the source of ur destruction. You are living an illusion, of a serere supremacy. Pathetic! ROG A FAHA lol |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
556 Posts |
Posted - 11 Sep 2010 : 13:18:48
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Originally posted by MADIBA
Tamsier go seek help. You need it. The hate in you will be the source of ur destruction. You are living an illusion, of a serere supremacy. Pathetic! ROG A FAHA lol
Hi Madiba,
It has been a long time. Where were you? Let me guess. Been training for jihad in Pakistan? LOL! Islam is the source of our destruction and you know it. Stop fooling yourself. By the way, the Sereres and the Jolas along with all the African Animist tribe who have preserved their ancient religion are superior to you. You arab worshippers. Do you know your fula religious festivals and Deities pre-isalm? Ooops! I forgot. You lost them when you embraced islam. LMAO! You are right when you said ''ROG A FAHA''. You bet! You no it! Hey Madiba! Can you tell me why you Senegambian muslims use the ancient Serere Animist Festivals to describe your islamic festivasl? How come you don't use the arabic names? LOL! |
Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 11 Sep 2010 : 15:03:33
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Originally posted by kayjatta
This is what i mean, Turk:
1. Pastor Jones has a right to burn the Quran as a show of protest...
2. The New York Imam also has a right to build a mosque near or at the site o G-Zero.
3. Pastor Jones should not burn the Quran in order to promote peace and good neighborliness. Burning the Quran will hurt many people's feelings and could incite violence.
4. A mosque should not be build near or at G-Zero in order to promote peace and good neighborliness. Building a mosque at G-Zero will hurt the feelings of many people and could incite violence. G-Zero is a sacred ground for victims of 911. Building a mosque there is considered by many as a triumph of terrorism, and it hurts their feelings when commemorating the death of their loved ones. Muslims should not find it difficult to understand that sensibility and respect it. But insisting to build the mosque despite public outcry and so much controversy speaks fo itself...
Kayjatta
1 and 2 are not comparable. They are different.
1. While Pastor Jones has a right to burn Quran legally for show of protest, it is negative, it is disrespectful to others. That is why we have world condemnation from 1.5 Billions people, including even non-Muslims. It is not a simple protest. It is discriminative. The nature protest itself is discriminative and deserved a prostest.
2. It is basic exercising a right. It is not negative. It is somone wants to build a mosque in a city. It does not disrespect anyone. It is not condemned by anyone. It is unfair to establish linke 911 and the Islam. If you think this link is normal, this idea itself dangerous and discriminative itself. You believe there is a link of terrorism with Islam. And I know you do.
3. Bingo
4. Why not building mosque has anything to do with promoting peace. Building mosque itself is promoting the peace. This idea itself is discriminative. Why a mosque has any relationship with terrorism. Having this idea is racist, bigotry. If you think this way, I have no respect for you either for establishing such relationship. There are muslims in New York and the mosque is a religious place and has nothing to do with terrorism. Outcry by who? Even the president Obama has supported the idea. It is ridicoulous to make such comparison. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 11 Sep 2010 15:15:51 |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 11 Sep 2010 : 15:10:37
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In Bosnia for Eid, we have local names. In Albania, we have local names. In Turkey,turks use the reference whic is not the ones Arabs use. Islam respect local traditions. Unlike, a local ancient religion serere which is disappearing more and more as we speak, Islam is universal religion. Of course, there is no such problem with serere as this religion is not practiced by Chinese, Fijian, Native American or Albanian. Our religion is Universal based on multi ethnic groups, multi racial. I realize the idea of becoming one regardless of race can not be acceptable to you because your religion is local based on one race and ethnic group. The religion itself is based on a bigot idea and restrictive. You see, to a serere, it is unacceptable for an african to have a relationship with another race. You condemn such relationship. Unlike your religion, Islam is flexible for local custom and traditions. Islam on the other hand, we do not focus on race, colour, ethnicity. Serere is not a universal religion. It is a combination of religion and ethnic group. Why do you think 'roog' or did not have to address to chinese and mongolian. Because there is not such thing is roog. It is a tale. That is why masses convince to give up this religion easily. That is why it is dying. Could not adapt to the needs human evolution. It is absolute.
Serere animist do not have problem like adopting local culture. Because nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooone practice it.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 11 Sep 2010 15:35:35 |
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