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bamba
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 Posted - 18 May 2006 : 19:43:40
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| Now u have to bring me to me to planet earth, what do u mean? |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 18 May 2006 : 19:58:21
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No-one can argue your points, but family pressures should also be taken into consideration. These are people that have grown used to pajeros and villas, they'll go to any length to retain such a life style, unfortunately. That's sadly the way things are in African politics. I dont condone, am just putting it subjectively.
It is this culture and cycle of patronage that we have to break NOW.
WHY SHOUL SOME FAMILIES BELIEVE THAT THER BORN WITH THE INALINABLE RIGHTS TO DRIVE PAJEROS WHILST THE REST OF THE PEOPLE ONLY HOPE TO BE ABALE TO AFFORD ONE MEAL A DAY. THE FARMER IN YORO BAWOL SHOULD HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AND PRIVILEDGES AS ANYONE ELSE.
This blows my mind to see that as though only Banjul and Serrekunda matters as far as policy planning and distribution of wealth is concerned. May be I should change my avatar again to the keyboard.
I THOUGHT WE HAD PASSED THE ERA OF KHAM GA MAN MAI KAN. (Do you know who i am) as Junkung accused the PPP for. I still have the tapes of his speeches in 1994 over BBC and radio one FM.
Bamba. This has nothing to do with you as a person but a general observation.
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 18 May 2006 : 20:01:16
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Kondorong, under the subject of Yasa, I was invited to a yasa "ganarr"(chicken) by a gambian lady nearby. Can u keep a secret? The pepper was too much i couldnt eat it. Does it have to be so?
Well i like yasa. My wife likes it too. It is very good with a lot of Jumbo and Dakharr(or timbing in mandinka). My mouth is watery. wow. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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bamba
Sweden
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Posted - 18 May 2006 : 20:07:48
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| U are very right, I dont take it personally. U are on the grounds and can relate to the situation better than I do uphere. That's why I gave a subjective view. It's a sad practice, everything is urbanized and for the few in the urban area. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 May 2006 : 20:13:57
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Originally posted by kondorong
Well my believe is that Lie should not buckle if he thinks he is innocent. Going for mercy especially to politicians is a mockery to the judicial system. It means those in high authority can get away with anything and then seek mercy from the politicians. That way only the small fry like you and me will end up filling Mile 2 and Janjangbureh Prisons. The legal system is here to protect every one not the big fish alone. This process does not guarantee the separation of power as called by the constitution. It only shows that one person has all the power- a de-facto dictatorship in a democracy. This is really a strange bedfellow.
I think the whole judiciary including the Chief justice should resign if Lie is pardoned. He was a subject of a commission of inquiry and needs to answer to charges currently brought against him in the courts and not at Statehouse. Even the VP should resign for travesty of justice if he is let off the hook. I understand that the wife is also arrested but she is the most senior female member of the bar and therefore should be champion of due process. Taylor jailed the current president of Liberia but she never gave up.
I think it is hypocritical for people to say that he is under family pressure to give in. It is unfortunately the same family pressure that created the mess we are in. It is more of a myth than a reality. It is a cheap excuse and cowardice to not die by one’s principles. If apartheid were practiced in the Gambia, I bet we will still be saying that God willed it and that family pressure meant we should not do anything but allow them to ride on our backs.
Some one said on the bantaba that it is because we bent our back, which is why Junkung is having a fee ride. If we stood up straight, he cannot ride. May be Baba and others should also crawl to statehouse and then we should open the prison doors and let everyone out. Unfortunately poor people in jail do not have the political clout to get a pardon. YOU CAN ONLY PARDON SOME ONE WHO HAS BEEN FOUND GUILTY BY THE COURTS. TO PARDON BEFORE THE COMPLETION OF DUE PROCESS IS AN INDICIACTION OF ARROGANCE TO THE RULE OF LAW, BASELESS HARASSMENT OF INNOCENT INDIVIDULS AND ALSO A CONFIRMATION OF A DICTATORSHIP.
Two things come to mind.
1. Either that Lie is innocent and is being harassed unnecessarily or being asked to compromise his principles for Junkung or
2. That he is guilty and fears to go to prison.
Either way, it is the courts that are competent to proof otherwise. He should prove his innocence or plead guilty and face the law as charged. There should not be any middle ground. To do anything otherwise is to interfere in the independence of the judiciary.
Unfortunately, madis, the legal system is not about who is right and wrong. IT IS ABOUT WINNING.
Kondorong you have lived upto expectation. You have raised points that i didn't see not deliberately but from the context i was viewing the issue.
Thanks for the insights |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 18 May 2006 : 20:17:10
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Originally posted by kondorong
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Originally posted by bamba
Kondorong, under the subject of Yasa, I was invited to a yasa "ganarr"(chicken) by a gambian lady nearby. Can u keep a secret? The pepper was too much i couldnt eat it. Does it have to be so?
Well i like yasa. My wife likes it too. It is very good with a lot of Jumbo and Dakharr(or timbing in mandinka). My mouth is watery. wow.
Kondorong so "timbing" is the Mandinak word for Dhaharr? Can i ask you a question? Are you expecting? The expecting normally like sour taste of Dhaharr or lemon! |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 18 May 2006 : 20:28:00
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| I intend to raise a batallion to remove junkung from Kanilai(laugh) |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
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Posted - 18 May 2006 : 22:16:32
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| Kondorong,junkung is Madibas brother. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 18 May 2006 : 22:18:23
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| Hey i withdraw my statement madiba. I did not know you also drank the magic water |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2006 : 00:26:47
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Kondorong,
Please don't mind Lemon Time. He's only a child!half-time as in football.
LEMON TIME ANN A SHELLANI Fula meaning(Lemon Time you are sick)
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 19 May 2006 : 00:42:46
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| ACHU DEH. MBO NANI PULAR |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2006 : 00:48:08
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| ME NA ANDI MBO NANI |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 May 2006 : 00:50:24
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Originally posted by kondorong
ACHU DEH. MBO NANI PULAR
KONO ANKADI A NANI PULAR NO BETTEH |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2006 : 01:00:37
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| SEH DA TAN. MI WODAKI HEN |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
1275 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2006 : 01:04:06
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Originally posted by kondorong
SEH DA TAN. MI WODAKI HEN
Kondorong you are a true Gambian. I will present you for President when i next come home. Bro am signing out now. Thanks for the engligthening thoughts. Bye |
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