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toubab1020
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 Posted - 08 Jul 2010 : 22:40:10
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Sister O,
There are several differences within the prisons in The Gambia and in England,In Gambia, a poor country,if prisoners do not have family ,relatives, friends,then survival is almost impossible on the rations given by the prison authorities,medical care is limited unless the prisoner is close to death then he may be taken to hospital which MAY have medicines and treatments to cure him (or her).
Prisoners may not be housed in prison but kept and moved at regular intervals to NIA facilities or police stations,no one knows where people are.
I have to tell you that here in the UK prisoners have access to TV newspapers,writing materials access to their friends or family (only if they want to see them)lawyers, their privacy is assured,their meals are good and balanced and prepared to comply with religious reqirments or vegetarian if thats your preference.,flush toilets in cells, electric light,handbasins blankets.They are also allowed to do paid work if they wish if there are vacancies to be filled, but the money is very small,there are libraries and books to read,there are courses to attend ,it is true to say that due to economic staffing levels this could be improved.
Long term prisoners may loose touch with reallity and try to stay in prison after their sentence has expired,because they get fed and clothed for free.Quite often their lawyers (paid for by legal aid ie no cost to the prisoner )are able to force the administration to rectify "mistakes" in regard to their human rights.
quote]Originally posted by Sister Omega
Toubab I agree with you that Britain's population
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Jul 2010 : 23:35:08
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Dbaldeh,
Gambia has been given European development Funding specifically for buiding up the road network and strengthening its Judiciary. Maybe this will answer your query re: structures and the Judiciary is concerned. Also to be fair some eminent Judges of Gambia are now working at the highest levels of international Judiciary.
As the saying goes , "the job belongs to the Employer, and your Career belongs to you!" Therefore individuals have the choice to stay within a System or leave it.
Dbaldeh constructive criticism and critical thinking are important components in discourse. It is healthy to have divergent views. It is also possible to reach some form of consenus in the way that it isn't necessary to have adversal politics all the time sometimes its important to work together for the common good, and a more inclusive society than fragmented polarised one.
The error of the opposition made was when the UDP decided to Boycott the National Assembly no amount of online postings will rectify that strategic error. I said it in 2001 and I will repeat it again. They betrayed their supporters who voted for their NAMS to represent in the National Assembly. It is in the Legislature where laws are made the majority of Gambia's don't access the internet. Therefore the reason why these former politicians online are redundant is that they decided to leave that they weren't as committed to the job of representing their constituents. They were more committed to being in taking power of the country. It was they who gave Gambia a one party state by default. It is far better in my view to have seats within the Legislature than have none at all. Over the past 9 years Gambia has made considerable changes and will continue to advance down the road of progress chosen by the majority of the Gambian people.
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Jul 2010 : 23:39:32
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Toubab are you suggesting upgrading the prison facilities including building new prisons?
The building new prison doesn't necessarily bring down crime it often results in bigger prison populations. Maybe there is a need for more community service i.e. making Prisoners earn their keep. Also Prisoners should grow their own food. Obviously there does need to be humane living conditions for immates. However Who will be responsible for footing the cost for new prisons?
Prisoners should be allowed at least one phone call to inform their relatives or friends about their whereabouts.
Readers Let us know your views.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 09 Jul 2010 : 00:18:27
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Sister,new buildings would be an improvement in any country,BUT its not possible,more community service, great idea,cleaning gutters springs to mind,growing food great, Mile 2 for instance is surrounded by gardens which are cultivated,by who I don't know,prisoners ? unlikely.Humane conditions of course,The Gambia is Africa and money is VERY short,maybe,cleaning and painting the accomodation could be undertaken by the inmates,maybe the families could collect the money for the materials,and buy them themselves issue brushes and paint as the work progresses,cleaning materials could also be dispensed by a committee of the families of inmates.I suggest this method of distrubution because it is not beyond the bounds of possibility that materials may be misapproperated by unauthorised persons, The Gambia is a poor country where EVERYTHING has a value and salaries are low.Labour costs Nil materials not paid for by the state,inmates more content,less problems for the staff to deal with,altogether a win win situation.JUST ONE PROBLEM if my idea is to work then there has to be an independant organiser who is reliable and competent apart from having good management skills.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Jul 2010 : 00:38:17
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Yes Toubab great ideas keep them flowing you never know in time they may become a reality.
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Sister Omega
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Posted - 09 Jul 2010 : 00:47:38
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In Cameroon male prisoners make shopping bags for sale as part of their rehabilitation. I like the idea of Prisoners cleaning out the gutters in fact what they could be doing is both cleaning and covering over the gutters. They could also clear the rubbish, and assist in Public work programs working on some chain gangs if necessary. Yes Prisoners definitely need to be put to work, and rehabilitated into the Community if possible with a trade so that they can make a living away from crime.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 09 Jul 2010 : 02:05:24
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There U Go Sister O you can get this idea into practice I am certain 
BUT be careful if you go with this you may well be stepping on these toes
http://observer.gm/africa/gambia/article/d5m-waste-management-project-launched
One advantage you have with the idea is that its free and the inmates get a change of scenery |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kayjatta
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Posted - 09 Jul 2010 : 07:08:59
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Originally posted by toubab1020
...lawyers everywhere are in business to make money those who have a "calling" end up with the small pieces and fade away,if you want to be rich in the law game you have to network and play the game.
I disagree Toubab, and I am not a lawyer (attorney). Contrary to your allegation above, lawyers everywhere are primarily guardians of justice, human rights, and the rule of law. In the process of doing that, they accept fair remuneration but not all that the traffic may bring.
Surveys have repeatedly confirmed that the majority of attorneys are small timers (either as sole practitioners or in small firm partnerships) Large and mega firms are not many . Many hit big only when they have a highly publicized case like Johney Cochran in the O.J. Simpson case, Mark Geragos and Tom Masereau in the Scott Peterson case. Thanks to the media!!! Don't you like the media? |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 09 Jul 2010 : 12:02:10
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KAY. I am very pleased you are not a lawyer because if you were you would probably be a poor man, as you tell us in your post not many lawyers " hit big " although you might be an exception, as it is I expect that you are comfortable in your present situation |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kayjatta
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Posted - 09 Jul 2010 : 12:09:32
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Originally posted by toubab1020
KAY. I am very pleased you are not a lawyer because if you were you would probably be a poor man, as you tell us in your post not many lawyers " hit big " although you might be an exception, as it is I expect that you are comfortable in your present situation
Hey atleast they don't hit as big as the politicians do . |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 09 Jul 2010 : 14:18:26
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Oh..........you are naughty
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Sister Omega
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Posted - 09 Jul 2010 : 21:11:06
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Toubab as I keep on saying there is lots of work to be doing in Gambia.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 10 Jul 2010 : 02:08:58
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Yes ,its always work in progress,sorry to say its never completed 
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Sister Omega
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Posted - 10 Jul 2010 : 17:27:19
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Toubab, What do you mean by that?
There is so much work to do in Gambia because there is so much work there to be done Toubab.
In other words its full of potential employment opportunities. It hasn't yet reached satuation point of pinned all its hopes into the Service sector at the expense of manufacturing etc as is the case of more materially Developed Countries.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 10 Jul 2010 : 18:14:39
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Almost sister,good ideas are formulated planned talked about and approved,then sorry to say most appear to be shelved  because no body can be found to pay for them,as they cost money and there is no money. The Gambia is a poor country with very limited resources except sunshine tourism,and of course the groundnut industry which when its making money then collapses and has to start again.
As I have said before (and now apparantly quoted by H.E. according to MOE ) its a question of attitudinal change in the Gambian population. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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