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Moe
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 Posted - 10 Jul 2010 : 02:54:19
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Friday, July 09, 2010
Barely three days after the opposition United Democratic Party (UDP) newly elected national propaganda secretary, Momodou Lamin Shyngle Nyassi held his first conference with journalists where he acknowledged the infrastructural developments brought in by the Jammeh administration, the national mobiliser of the ruling Alliance for Patriotic Re-orientation and Construction (APRC) and mayor of the Kanifing Municipal Council (KMC) Yankuba Colley has reacted by thanking Nyassi for admitting such trends in the country.
Mayor Colley was speaking to the Daily Observer Thursday at his office in the KMC chambers."I will commend Nyassi for admitting that there are lots of infrastructural developments. That is okay, and it is a plus for us. If a propaganda secretary can realise that there are developments going on in the country, that is fine," he stated, and stressed that all the infrastructural projects so far executed by the Jammeh administration have been fruitful.
He however, dismissed Nyassi's assertion that human development in the country is going backward, reminding him that never before had Gambians dreamt of a national university that would train the human resource base of the country to suit its development needs. He said Nyassi should note that an unprecedented number of Gambians have graduated from the University of The Gambia (UTG) in various fields of specialisation since the institution was established, thus contributing to national development.
He added: "So you can see that they [UDP] do not have any agenda or an issue to discuss. They have nothing to sell out to the people because whatever they intend to do, we are already on that. Whatever they are talking about is happening."
Cross-border registration
Colley denied Nyassi's allegations of cross-border registration, saying that such a thing never happens in The Gambia. He declared that it is only Gambians that had voted, and will continue to vote in elections held in this country."There will be nobody other than Gambians who will register and vote in elections in this country. As far as I am concerned, it is only Gambians who are voting in this country," he said.
He also refuted Nyassi's allegations that business in the country is "collapsing," and that "agriculture is degrading", urging him to acquaint himself with the trend of business in the country.According to the APRC national mobiliser, municipal councils are registering more businesses on a daily basis now than ever before, not to talk of the international investors that continue to express confidence in the prevailing conducive business climate in the country. To this end, he urged his fellow politicians to do their homework properly before making any pronouncements.
He equally commended Nyassi for being aware that The Gambia today is better than yesterday."He knows that there is a big difference between Gambia today and yesterday. Gambia today is a bright one compared to yesterday when it was dark,"Colley stated.He pointed out the strides registered in the agriculture sector, saying Gambians know farming has become a dignified profession thanks to the visionary leadership of President Jammeh who has since the assumption of the mantle of leadership been in the forefront of agricultural advancement and development.
2011 race
Commenting on the 2011 Presidential Election, Colley predicted that the APRC will register a landslide victory. He added that the daily cross-carpeting of opposition militants to the APRC speaks volumes of the confidence Gambians continue to have in the leadership of the country.He then urged the opposition parties to think of preparing their deposit or nominations and know whether they will fulfil the requirement before thinking of winning.
"UDP is a failed party and people will continue rejecting them," Colley added.The APRC national mobiliser described the Peoples Democratic Organisation for Independence and Socialism Party as mere dreamers who never got a future in the country."In fact who will listen to them?" he asked.He again stated that the APRC will sweep the polls in 2011 and urged the party militants to remain steadfast.
Author: by Hatab Fadera
Source:http://observer.gm/africa/gambia/article/udps-nyassi-thanked-for-acknowledging-aprc-govts-achievements
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Nyarikangbanna
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Posted - 10 Jul 2010 : 17:02:37
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Mr. Nyassi's analysis was an objective one. He acknowledges some infrastructural developments registered by the APRC but also highlighted their flaws such as sustainability and poor resourcing. What that means is that in most of these project [not all of them], the taxpayer did not get value for money for good number of them are either not cost effective or not fit for purpose. A typical example is the Arch 22 which costs $10 million.
UDP will not stand and say building schools is not a good idea. That would be disingenuous of them. All they are saying, and this is very important, is that when schools are built, they must be well resourced to serve their purpose and serve it well. At the moment this does not seem to be the case as quality of secondary education in Gambia has depreciated quite drastically during the past decade or so. Therefore, it is fair to say a rise in the number of public schools in the Gambia has not resulted to an improvement in the quality of education in the country. In fact, it has the opposite effect. That makes you wonder whether the taxpayers' money has been wisely and judiciously spent in some of these projects. This is the argument that is at play out there and it is what Mr. Nyassi was alluding to. The same argument can be made in respect of the other areas including the Health Sector.
The difference between APRC and UDP on this issue is stark and quite clear; the APRC is about propaganda while the UDP is about substance i.e how the lives of ordinary Gambians are impacted by these so-called infrastructural developments.
I hope this helps
Kind regards
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toubab1020
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Posted - 10 Jul 2010 : 23:56:49
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Nyarikangbanna, you wrote:
"The difference between APRC and UDP on this issue is stark and quite clear; the APRC is about propaganda while the UDP is about substance i.e how the lives of ordinary Gambians are impacted by these so-called infrastructural developments."
This topic posted by yourself also has a lot to say on the subject,a little similar, APRC and UDP ? The UDP even appear to have a person responsible for propaganda.
http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9417
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 : 00:20:31
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| lol. touby. Gotcha. lol. This wannabe has no clue about politics but he is trying to play the game of politics. UDP secretary, sorry propaganda secretary, itself has already acknowledged the'substance' above news article. I think APRC should send a thank you note to the 'propaganda (lol) secretary' for recognizing/confirming the current accomplishments in development. I mean more I read the opposition, more I am convinced Jammeh is better option for Gambia. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 : 00:29:24
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Turk:
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics 
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Nyarikangbanna
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 : 00:39:15
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Originally posted by toubab1020
This topic posted by yourself also has a lot to say on the subject,a little similar, APRC and UDP ? The UDP even appear to have a person responsible for propaganda.
http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9417
Toubab, politics cannot be devoid of propaganda but it is also important that voters differentiate between substance and propaganda to be able to make an informed choice. On this subject [infrastructural development], it looks like the APRC has the edge in terms of propaganda but on substance, the argument is unwinnable for them. That is why the UDP propaganda Secretary is playing smart politics by hitting them hard with his substance card and it is definitely playing out well.
I did not say UDP does not do propaganda. All I said was that on this issue, the UDP is about substance while the APRC is about propaganda.
Kind regards
''Mr. Nyassi's analysis was an objective one. He acknowledges some infrastructural developments registered by the APRC but also highlighted their flaws such as sustainability and poor resourcing. What that means is that in most of these project [not all of them], the taxpayer did not get value for money for good number of them are either not cost effective or not fit for purpose. A typical example is the Arch 22 which costs $10 million.
UDP will not stand and say building schools is not a good idea. That would be disingenuous of them. All they are saying, and this is very important, is that when schools are built, they must be well resourced to serve their purpose and serve it well. At the moment this does not seem to be the case as quality of secondary education in Gambia has depreciated quite drastically during the past decade or so. Therefore, it is fair to say a rise in the number of public schools in the Gambia has not resulted to an improvement in the quality of education in the country. In fact, it has the opposite effect. That makes you wonder whether the taxpayers' money has been wisely and judiciously spent in some of these projects. This is the argument that is at play out there and it is what Mr. Nyassi was alluding to. The same argument can be made in respect of the other areas including the Health Sector.''- Nyarikangbanna
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Edited by - Nyarikangbanna on 11 Jul 2010 01:01:46 |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 : 02:09:38
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Nyarikangbanna, where are the figures to approve your ascertain that the quality of Secondary education has declined during the past decade or so? Without a league table of sorts this agrgument is subjective rather than objective.Don't you think? In addition to that where are the stats to compare the performance of Secondary schools during the former administation? So at least we can put these wild claims under a transparent gaze.
Peace
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 : 11:28:21
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
Nyarikangbanna, where are the figures to approve your ascertain that the quality of Secondary education has declined during the past decade or so? Without a league table of sorts this agrgument is subjective rather than objective.Don't you think? In addition to that where are the stats to compare the performance of Secondary schools during the former administation? So at least we can put these wild claims under a transparent gaze.
Peace
Sister Omega
This is not a subjective argument. Every year, the West African Examination Council do release figures based on final stage assessments [examinations] and they have always been catastrophic in the past decade or so particularly the core subjects like English, Maths and the Sciences. I do not need to produce figures here as this is universal knowledge that has been picked upon by several donor agency reports over and over. If you don't know this, then may be your brain is still under your pillow.
I have sponsored two siblings and still sponsoring three others within this system. In 2008, I made inquiries as to why my brother could not pass his Grade 9 exams and get a place in a senior secondary school. I always thought of him as an intelligent lad. The first impression I got was that it is because his school is located in the province [rural area]. I initially dismissed this as utter nonsense because I sat Common Entrance Examination in a provincial school and was able to make it to Gambia High School with flying colours. But when I visited Gambia in late 2008, I discovered, having visited the school and spoken to the new principal, that in my brother's school, only three people actually had the right grades for senior secondary school entry. As a result, I withdrew him from that school and took him to Methodist Academy, a prestigious private school, which costs me fortunes. I however, left my young sister in the same rural school hoping that the new principal will turn the table around but no. During my last visit, in Dec. 2009, I had to remove her too. She's now attending Methodist Academy where her brother passed his Grade 9 exams with flying colours. I couldn't choose a public school for her because already, it was clear that the problem is a systemic one rather than an isolated case. The writings are on the walls and it is the same story all over the country. I state this because I want sister Omega to understand that we are Gambians who live these issues day in day out. We therefore require no lectures from her especially when they are that flawed and not fit for consumption.
Kind regards
''Mr. Nyassi's analysis was an objective one. He acknowledges some infrastructural developments registered by the APRC but also highlighted their flaws such as sustainability and poor resourcing. What that means is that in most of these project [not all of them], the taxpayer did not get value for money for good number of them are either not cost effective or not fit for purpose. A typical example is the Arch 22 which costs $10 million.
UDP will not stand and say building schools is not a good idea. That would be disingenuous of them. All they are saying, and this is very important, is that when schools are built, they must be well resourced to serve their purpose and serve it well. At the moment this does not seem to be the case as quality of secondary education in Gambia has depreciated quite drastically during the past decade or so. Therefore, it is fair to say a rise in the number of public schools in the Gambia has not resulted to an improvement in the quality of education in the country. In fact, it has the opposite effect. That makes you wonder whether the taxpayers' money has been wisely and judiciously spent in some of these projects. This is the argument that is at play out there and it is what Mr. Nyassi was alluding to. The same argument can be made in respect of the other areas including the Health Sector.''- Nyarikangbanna
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I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union. |
Edited by - Nyarikangbanna on 11 Jul 2010 14:54:33 |
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Sister Omega
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 : 11:54:04
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Well my experience to yours is different my relative has gone into a secondary school upcountry passing with flying colours. He successfully passed his Common Entrance Exams, and another relative of mine is currently at University of The Gambia. Here again that's why its important to have an objective view of the situation by using independent figure because peoples experience are different. I have two other relatives who are currently in Primary school and are doing well at school. So from two cases here we can see differences already.
Peace
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Edited by - Sister Omega on 11 Jul 2010 11:55:19 |
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Nyarikangbanna
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 : 12:07:13
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Common Entrance Examination had been abolished well before the emergence of the Second republic and the APRC. What we now have is WASCE. So clearly, your statement above shows that you are out of touch and have no clue of what you are talking about. You are merely trying to instigate a clueless and therefore meaningless razzmatazz to hide your gaping deficiency.
Kind regards
''Mr. Nyassi's analysis was an objective one. He acknowledges some infrastructural developments registered by the APRC but also highlighted their flaws such as sustainability and poor resourcing. What that means is that in most of these project [not all of them], the taxpayer did not get value for money for good number of them are either not cost effective or not fit for purpose. A typical example is the Arch 22 which costs $10 million.
UDP will not stand and say building schools is not a good idea. That would be disingenuous of them. All they are saying, and this is very important, is that when schools are built, they must be well resourced to serve their purpose and serve it well. At the moment this does not seem to be the case as quality of secondary education in Gambia has depreciated quite drastically during the past decade or so. Therefore, it is fair to say a rise in the number of public schools in the Gambia has not resulted to an improvement in the quality of education in the country. In fact, it has the opposite effect. That makes you wonder whether the taxpayers' money has been wisely and judiciously spent in some of these projects. This is the argument that is at play out there and it is what Mr. Nyassi was alluding to. The same argument can be made in respect of the other areas including the Health Sector.''- Nyarikangbanna
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I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union. |
Edited by - Nyarikangbanna on 11 Jul 2010 12:30:13 |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 : 12:18:53
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Nyarikangbanna.
I accept your point that ALL statistics can be fiddled with to produce what you want them to show , your personal experience within the education system that exists in The Gambia is more valid than speeches made by those who do not have personal knowledge of the matter, it is unhelpful in any discussion to personally critise posters with phrases like:
"The writings are on the walls and it is the same story all over the country. I state this because I want sister Omega to understand, that is, if her brain is still under the pillow, that we are Gambians who live these issues day in day out. We therefore require no lectures from her especially when they are that flawed and not fit for consumption."
Just like yourself EVERYBODY on bantaba is entitled to their own opinion and if this is in conflict with yours why not try to show by example that your opinion is more accurate (OK you have done this in your rejoinder to Sister O, I accept that)
I think that the UDP should really get their act together and not be so fragmented and tell the people what THEY will do if elected,all I have read so far are just general talk .The UDP MUST do this if they are to have any chance.I am not a moderator here Momodou is,I know that that posters should respect one another and not hurl personal insults in the vain hope that others will be prevented from posting.Bantaba has great potential for exchange of ideas without insults.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Nyarikangbanna
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 : 12:28:23
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Point taken TOUBAB. I think i was forced to take a certain line to expose Sister O's attempt to stifle what started as a constructive debate. So yes; some of my phrases would not have been necessary but for Sister O's deliberate attempt to derail the debate by instigating a meaningless razzmatazz. Now that I made my point, I am withdrawing the phrase you objected to.
Kind regards
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I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union. |
Edited by - Nyarikangbanna on 11 Jul 2010 12:34:33 |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 : 12:35:08
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Nyarikangbanna. please don't think that I want to be stupidly stuffy,I thank you for your understanding,you have seen some of the rubbish that is posted by some when MOST people would welcome an open exchange of differing views some topics have degenerated into a game of insult throwing, I can throw a better insult than you.look I got a goal mentallity.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Nyarikangbanna
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 : 12:40:02
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Ohhhhh! I didn't know that. please spare me
Regards
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I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union. |
Edited by - Nyarikangbanna on 11 Jul 2010 12:40:54 |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 : 13:58:52
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You must allow me some latitude, after all I am an Old toubab
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Sister Omega
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 : 18:32:59
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Nyarikangbanna, I would like to apologise for my inaccurate statement regarding the Common Entrance Exam. I do recognise however that there is a need for better trained teachers in Gambia because they need to have Continuous Professional Development to keep up to date with Teaching Practice, including Learning Support Assistants in school. It's very important that children are encourage to learn without being ridiculed in school if they have fallen behind in their studies. There also needs to be National standards set for Basic Skills i.e Numeracy and Literacy accompanied with skills for life. If this hasn't already been implemented.
I don't wish in anyway to stifle debate regarding education as it is vital for the progress of our future nation builders. Therefore I am open to hearing and learning more about Gambia's education system and how you and others wish to see this improved.
Peace
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Peace
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Edited by - Sister Omega on 11 Jul 2010 18:36:47 |
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