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tamsier
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 05 Jul 2010 : 04:16:03
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At the Serere Xoy Ceremony this year [June 2010], the High Priests and Priestesses foretold two short term important events this year in Senegambia:
1. There would be an abundance of rain this year in Senegal - so abundant that, some areas may suffer heavy rain falls. Within three days after the Xoy Ceremony [an ancient religious ceremony based on Serere religion], the Gods open the heavens and it began to rain cats and dogs. Many areas such as Niakhar were flooded with heavy rain fall.
2. The Serere High Priests and Priestesses also foretold the death of the Mouride religious leader this year. Not more than a month of course we all heard the passing of the religious leader of Touba.
Those who insulted our Serere High Priests just because of our religion would now be eating their words.
To all Sereres loyal to the ancient ways of our ancestors, stay true to the old ways and never submit. The Gods are with us.
Roog a faha.
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Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
Edited by - tamsier on 05 Jul 2010 05:51:06 |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jul 2010 : 06:01:33
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Bara Mbacké had been ill for months before his death in Touba on June 30, 2010. Just before his death he had been hospitalised at a clinic in the Senegalese capital, Dakar. Bara Mbacké's successor as Grand Marabout was his cousin, Cheikh Maty Leye Mbacke. President of Senegal Abdoulaye Wade took a helicopter ride from Dakar to Touba to swear allegiance to the new leader.
The man is, 85, and had been sick for months staying in the hospital. It does not take a 'divine guess'. Obviously, there are vultures to try to score on someone's death and we all knew the bigot of bantaba has no honor speaking about someone's death to make a point against Muslims whenever there is an opportunity. The animal already threaten to kill Muslims.
Besides, in Islam, the death is the beginning. Not fear of death and definitely not hiding in the bush.
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"Every soul shall have a taste of death: And only on the Day of Judgment shall you be paid your full recompense. Only he who is saved from the Fire and admitted to the Garden will have succeeded. As for the life of this world, it is nothing but a merchandise of vanity." [3:185]
"Surely we are from God, and to Him we shall return." [2:156]
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 05 Jul 2010 : 14:04:14
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These annual ceremonies do not only make the world perfect for the believers in times of crisis but also gives them hope in fore the coming year.
The ceremonies give them important informations for their livelihood and help them prepare for different seasons of the year. And solve problems like; which seed to sow and when.
The social interaction these ceremonies create also mark another dimension in the everyday existence, here and now, which is not achievable in any other way.
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Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 05 Jul 2010 : 19:18:41
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Janko, well said,( and written.)   |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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tamsier
United Kingdom
556 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jul 2010 : 19:55:46
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Originally posted by Janko
These annual ceremonies do not only make the world perfect for the believers in times of crisis but also gives them hope in fore the coming year.
The ceremonies give them important informations for their livelihood and help them prepare for different seasons of the year. And solve problems like; which seed to sow and when.
The social interaction these ceremonies create also mark another dimension in the everyday existence, here and now, which is not achievable in any other way.
Wonderful contribution. The usual thread hijacker knows nothing and will stay like that for eternity. He is not even worth my time. Great contribution as usual. |
Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jul 2010 : 13:34:32
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Originally posted by Janko
These annual ceremonies do not only make the world perfect for the believers in times of crisis but also gives them hope in fore the coming year.
The ceremonies give them important informations for their livelihood and help them prepare for different seasons of the year. And solve problems like; which seed to sow and when.
The social interaction these ceremonies create also mark another dimension in the everyday existence, here and now, which is not achievable in any other way.
Janko
Can you recall the famous premonitions during the raining seasons? Suluwo Kumata, Ako molii yee ifoo nyoo Aramiso ( the Hyena made an announcement that, farmers should rest on Thursdays).. This news use to appeal to lots of Kamara Kunda folks...
Also the raining season warnings.... Leba Sirifo koo, Nyinan sama... Banku woo banku yee Tura fah ( the Sereif of Leba said, each region should kill a bull for the well-being of the raining season...
Interesting warnings as well... Foonyo be tinyaro kela etc..
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Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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mansasulu
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Posted - 08 Jul 2010 : 14:39:35
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| haha...santa that is a good one... |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jul 2010 : 13:44:59
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Janko
Can you recall the famous premonitions during the raining seasons? Suluwo Kumata, Ako molii yee ifoo nyoo Aramiso ( the Hyena made an announcement that, farmers should rest on Thursdays).. This news use to appeal to lots of Kamara Kunda folks...
Also the raining season warnings.... Leba Sirifo koo, Nyinan sama... Banku woo banku yee Tura fah ( the Sereif of Leba said, each region should kill a bull for the well-being of the raining season...
Interesting warnings as well... Foonyo be tinyaro kela etc..
 !!!, yes, I remember some, they are not taken seriously, though, mostly for humorous reasons. I also remember that Wednesdays are reserved for work at home. There are other predictions by the afangolu, on mossu kottoh or kekottoh saloh.
Mostly the predictions are based on knowledge gotten from observations under a long period of time and sometimes passed on from generation to generation, in other words, based on collected data |
Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
556 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2010 : 00:00:43
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Originally posted by Santanfara
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Originally posted by Janko
These annual ceremonies do not only make the world perfect for the believers in times of crisis but also gives them hope in fore the coming year.
The ceremonies give them important informations for their livelihood and help them prepare for different seasons of the year. And solve problems like; which seed to sow and when.
The social interaction these ceremonies create also mark another dimension in the everyday existence, here and now, which is not achievable in any other way.
Janko
Can you recall the famous premonitions during the raining seasons? Suluwo Kumata, Ako molii yee ifoo nyoo Aramiso ( the Hyena made an announcement that, farmers should rest on Thursdays).. This news use to appeal to lots of Kamara Kunda folks...
Also the raining season warnings.... Leba Sirifo koo, Nyinan sama... Banku woo banku yee Tura fah ( the Sereif of Leba said, each region should kill a bull for the well-being of the raining season...
Interesting warnings as well... Foonyo be tinyaro kela etc..
how sad and pathetic! |
Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
556 Posts |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
556 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2010 : 17:36:42
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Roog to tunleer um Takar to Pangool ki.
Roog a faha. |
Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 03:33:34
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quote:
Originally posted by Janko
These annual ceremonies do not only make the world perfect for the believers in times of crisis but also gives them hope in fore the coming year.
The ceremonies give them important informations for their livelihood and help them prepare for different seasons of the year. And solve problems like; which seed to sow and when.
The social interaction these ceremonies create also mark another dimension in the everyday existence, here and now, which is not achievable in any other way.
So Janko, I am assuming these annual ceremonies are all traditional (pre-islamic, pre-christian, pre-colonial times). So, what was the calender used. How do they determine i.e. Wednesday or the specific time of the year? |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 03:53:23
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Originally posted by tamsier
At the Serere Xoy Ceremony this year [June 2010], the High Priests and Priestesses foretold two short term important events this year in Senegambia:
1. There would be an abundance of rain this year in Senegal - so abundant that, some areas may suffer heavy rain falls. Within three days after the Xoy Ceremony [an ancient religious ceremony based on Serere religion], the Gods open the heavens and it began to rain cats and dogs. Many areas such as Niakhar were flooded with heavy rain fall.
2. The Serere High Priests and Priestesses also foretold the death of the Mouride religious leader this year. Not more than a month of course we all heard the passing of the religious leader of Touba.
Those who insulted our Serere High Priests just because of our religion would now be eating their words.
To all Sereres loyal to the ancient ways of our ancestors, stay true to the old ways and never submit. The Gods are with us.
Roog a faha.
I guess these Serere folks should read wiki little more to forecast when it will rain. But I gave them credit to tell us that
- It will rain.
- 85 years old man who has been sick will die.
I wonder if the rain season will be over in November? Enlighten us Tam(sier)!
And who is going to win the 2011 election?
Wiki:
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Climate
tropical; hot, humid; rainy season (May to November) has strong southeast winds; dry season (December to April) dominated by hot, dry, harmattan wind.[1] Well-defined dry and humid seasons result from northeast winter winds and southwest summer winds. Dakar's annual rainfall of about 610 mm (24 in) occurs between June and October when maximum temperatures average 27 °C (80.6 °F); December to February minimum temperatures are about 17 °C (62.6 °F). Interior temperatures are higher than along the coast, and rainfall increases substantially farther south, exceeding 1,500 mm (59.1 in) annually in some areas.
p.s. The wiki page was updated/last modified on 26 May 2010 at 20:45. Meaning, much earlier than serere priests.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 19 Jul 2010 04:27:10 |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2010 : 11:25:52
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Originally posted by turk
So Janko, I am assuming these annual ceremonies are all traditional (pre-islamic, pre-christian, pre-colonial times). So, what was the calender used. How do they determine i.e. Wednesday or the specific time of the year?
turk,
I don´t know how Wednesday was determined or identified, but there is a story that explains the Wednesday-off-work phenomenon or reason. (I will not go into the story here) The seasons of the year are the timeline, for ex. harvest, dry, rain etc. seasons ... |
Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2010 : 05:48:16
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Hey Turk, I have a few Serere Relatives you better stop................................Peace
I guess these Serere folks should read wiki little more to forecast when it will rain. But I gave them credit to tell us that
- It will rain.
- 85 years old man who has been sick will die.
I wonder if the rain season will be over in November? Enlighten us Tam(sier)!
And who is going to win the 2011 election?
Wiki:
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Climate
tropical; hot, humid; rainy season (May to November) has strong southeast winds; dry season (December to April) dominated by hot, dry, harmattan wind.[1] Well-defined dry and humid seasons result from northeast winter winds and southwest summer winds. Dakar's annual rainfall of about 610 mm (24 in) occurs between June and October when maximum temperatures average 27 °C (80.6 °F); December to February minimum temperatures are about 17 °C (62.6 °F). Interior temperatures are higher than along the coast, and rainfall increases substantially farther south, exceeding 1,500 mm (59.1 in) annually in some areas.
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p.s. The wiki page was updated/last modified on 26 May 2010 at 20:45. Meaning, much earlier than serere priests.
update date
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
Edited by - Moe on 20 Jul 2010 05:50:01 |
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