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Karamba
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turk
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 Posted - 04 Jul 2010 : 16:25:47
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In Sub-Saharan-Africa only Mali, Benin, Gabon, Senegal, Namibia, Botswana, South Africa and Ghana scored better than Gambia without "Alarming status". Gambia scored better than the states that are categorized as "Alarming" :
Tanzania,Mozambique,Djibouti,Madagascar,Swaziland,Angola,Zambia,Togo,Equatorial Guinea,Rwanda,Mauritania,Burkina Faso,Liberia,Rep. of the,Congo,Eritrea,Malawi,Sierra Leone,Cameroon,Burundi,Guinea-Bissau,Uganda,Niger,Ethiopia,Nigeria,Kenya,Ivory Coast,Guinea,Cen. African Rep.,Dem. Rep. of the Congo,Zimbabwe,Sudan,Chad,Somalia.
Here is the profile of Gambia
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Jul 2010 : 18:54:24
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Last year (2009) Gambia was 80th in the index, implying a decline in good state of affairs and a rise in worse state of affairs.
It is that graphic rise and fall anyone looks at. Whether some countries are doing worse than Gambia, what matters is that Gambia is not doing any better. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 04 Jul 2010 : 19:20:04
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I read the profile link, despite being a few years out of date,(I am referring to the bar chart which shows 2005 and 2006) maybe things have improved since the last figures were completed,the general trend does not show a vibrant country,despite financial stableisation.why is this ? after all the president has had a long time to improve things,improvement appears to be coming slowly.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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terangba
Egypt
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Posted - 04 Jul 2010 : 19:58:28
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I think we should advocate getting off the list in the first place, Gambian's should not be looking at which countries are behind us. The bigger picture is to adhere to the rule of law and improve human rights. Fifteen years ago we were the champions of human rights in the sub-region.
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Moe
USA
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Posted - 04 Jul 2010 : 20:26:14
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How can anyone be a champion of anything In Africa nowadays with Half baked war mongers trying to destabilize the region. Africa's problem is the enforcement of the existing laws and once implemented everyone screams foul. Africans in general never learnt to take responsibility for their actions. Only in Africa will you see Politicians associated with criminals both claiming stakes and rallying behind each other. If the leaders have no ethical standards or morals the future of that nation is bound to be a chaotic society. We have seen these fools hide under the auspice of journalist and human rights activist just to tarnish the image of the president forgetting the image of the country all based on Lies. It's funny that they claim disappearances and appear in Mali Unharmed and other places keeping a low profile as if the whole world was not out looking for them. Africans are hopeless individuals and that cannot be over emphasized....................................Peace .....................................Peace
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
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toubab1020
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Posted - 04 Jul 2010 : 20:49:29
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OK MOE, assume what you say is correct,now is your chance to shine and tell bantaba members how you would deal with the situation that you have outlined,OK I will accept bullet points in this instance 
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 04 Jul 2010 : 20:51:45
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OK fine, how would you achieve this excellent goal !
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I think we should advocate getting off the list in the first plac
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Moe
USA
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Posted - 04 Jul 2010 : 20:55:30
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Toubab I have a Masters degree in Policy making and Human resources please don't play with me. I just ain't in the mood for you bull these days. I am not writing projects here neither do I have the inclination to bullet point. Read my lips and research if you want. I dont need a shining moment I am a rising star you just have to look up ............................................Peacequote:
Originally posted by toubab1020
OK MOE, assume what you say is correct,now is your chance to shine and tell bantaba members how you would deal with the situation that you have outlined,OK I will accept bullet points in this instance
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
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turk
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Posted - 04 Jul 2010 : 22:34:29
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The bigger picture is to adhere to the rule of law and improve human rights.
Economic, social situation need to improve parallel with political improvement, they are all tied together. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 04 Jul 2010 : 23:05:56
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Impressed Moe, which University granted you that honour ? you must be a busy man with such a qualification everyone wants policy makers in The Gambia ,you could make a fortune giving workshops and lectures ,I know of one group that are very confused at the moment,but somehow I don't think that they would offer you a position as advisor or lecturer
You are a rising star at the moment I hope you dont implode too quickly into a cloud of cosmic dust 
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Toubab I have a Masters degree in Policy making and Human resources please don't play with me. [quote |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Karamba
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Posted - 04 Jul 2010 : 23:30:26
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Terangba wrote:
"I think we should advocate getting off the list in the first place, Gambian's should not be looking at which countries are behind us."
My take:
No better way of summing it up. Nobody wants to be in hell then pointing at the other stations of hell fire to brag about enduring lesser degree of heat from hell.
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Moe
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Posted - 05 Jul 2010 : 02:22:14
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| One that am sure many can't afford including your humble self Toubab1020. Implode into a cloud of cosmic dust I doubt that, You might as well reassess the situation partner...................................................Peace |
I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 05 Jul 2010 : 07:29:31
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Originally posted by Karamba
Terangba wrote:
"I think we should advocate getting off the list in the first place, Gambian's should not be looking at which countries are behind us."
My take:
No better way of summing it up. Nobody wants to be in hell then pointing at the other stations of hell fire to brag about enduring lesser degree of heat from hell.
I doubt that the Gambia's position would have differed much under the First Republic (the late PPP regime) either.
These index considers several factors. For example the two most pressing issues the Gambia faces according to the index are:
1. Demographic (population) pressure (7.6)
2. Criminalization or delegitimization of the state (7.6).
It is noteworthy that the index didn't mention whether "criminalization or delegitimization of the state" is actual or merely perceptual.
The next most pressing issues are:
1. Economic decline (7.5)
2. Human rights violations (7.4).
It appears that in the Gambia, the level of economic decline corresponds to the level of human rights violations. Therefore, it appears not surprising that those who preceive economic improvement under Jammeh do not necessarily agree with the existence of human rights violations, and perhaps the reserve is true also.
While the Jammeh regime faces a larger number of "Intervention by External Political Actors" mainly from the diaspora (than Sir Dawda Jawara), both are plagued with the same problems, namely population pressure and gender imbalance, illegitimacy, and economic decline. More human rights violations have been documented under Jammeh, however, perhaps as a result the combination of the nature of his regime (military)and his own temperament.
What is also interesting is that while the Gambia, as measured by international ideals, is doing poorly; it is not doing terribly poorly among African countries and even in the world.
Gambia appears more stable than Iran, Kenya, Nigeria, Pakistan, Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Malawi, Egypt, Zambia, Indonesia, Tanzania, and many other regional bigshots. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 05 Jul 2010 : 11:47:22
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MOE I am sorry that I asked a specific question of you,please continue with your input,thats sometimes quite good,at other times very one sided and biased,clear and concise replies never come from the other side so how can anyone expect accurate information,never mind babble is quite fun,dispite the topics that should be ressolved never are, but just go round and round and round..........without end.
A Gambian Problem ? A religious problem ? a political problem ? a problem of the world...........thats probably a good example of babble.
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/babble_1
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turk
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Posted - 06 Jul 2010 : 07:38:35
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What is also interesting is that while the Gambia, as measured by international ideals, is doing poorly; it is not doing terribly poorly among African countries and even in the world.
Gambia appears more stable than Iran, Kenya, Nigeria, Pakistan, Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Malawi, Egypt, Zambia, Indonesia, Tanzania, and many other regional bigshots.
Finally, Kayjatta admitted how great the government in the Gambia. lol.
What is funnier, Karamba posted this to oppose Jammeh, but the post actually reveals that Gambia is not doing that bad at all. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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