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toubab1020
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 Posted - 15 Jun 2010 : 22:48:16
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"In most developed parts of the world, there is still this struggle to get people confident in politicians."
Well they have a VERY long way to go, I shall be long dead when that day dawns 
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 03:46:03
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Independent Electoral Commission
http://www.iec.gm/home |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 10:08:22
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Originally posted by Karamba
Whatever, whatever! That's no gentleman's exit out of a genuine discussion. You knew Turk, that when exposed, your last resort is to take on your heels.
You have no case to raise and therefore better off, sleeping well.
Gambian laws are dead. That is why it takes one man to call it whatever, if you know what I mean.
As someone of legal concern, Yaya Jammeh needs you more. At last one person stands to take legal issues seriously this time round. Good to know you care about laws in Gambia.
Karamba,
Thanks for your comments, I wasn't angry with the guy. Just got put off when I realised he is not capable of connecting the dots. I only quoted UK law in response to his ascertion that we [UDP-UK] are UK registered organisation to show that we don't need registration to operate here but when it became clear to me that he is a knob that will never be able to connect the dots even in a million years, I decided to leave him to labour under his own delusions and emptiness.
As for the understanding of Gambian law, I am sure most people have read my legal commentaries here and are in no doubt that I have a far superior understanding of the laws of the Gambia than this guy. So I will not pertake on that aspect of his comments. In fact I did not see anything in his comments that merits my response as it is, frankly speaking, all 'mombo jombo' . I only meant to clarify that UK bit.
He called me a party official. Again, that too doesn't merit my comment for I am sure nobody saw my name in the media as part of the list of officials elected at the UDP Jarra Soma Congress.
Anyway, what a spirited exchange! and welcome to kayjatta even though I fundamentally disagree with him.
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Edited by - Nyarikangbanna on 16 Jun 2010 10:22:38 |
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sab
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 10:08:29
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Turk, dont u remember the fiasco of the head of IEC/Gambia at the last election?
IEC watchful & weightless!
Jammeh : Poor man is at the head of everything in The Gambia.
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The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary) |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 12:01:04
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Sab
No I do not remember. This is the first time I read about IEC. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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toubab1020
12314 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 13:56:05
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Going very well this topic, plenty of discussion by people who know what they are talking about  and have correct information to hand, I am enjoying this, (don't worry folks I think I will leave those who know to carry on,)very sensible, the head banging and insults have largely stopped and the topic is being discussed in a fine way  .Thanks. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 14:14:01
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Mr Party official
I will report the donation to Independent Election Commission in Gambia and other Gambian authorities. I suspected that some of the money was funded by some illegal organization, drug mafia, Taliban, Red November and also some WASP and skin-head also send money to influence the main opposition party of Gambia. I will also contact UDP in Gambia not to accept this donation which has 'unknown' resources in order not to avoid the risk of accepting money from 'unknown' resource. I urged them not to accept money without the list of the donars and verified with their Gambian citizenships. Also, I will report the newspapers that 'unknown' funding for UDP which violates the Gambian law and regulations about the political parties. You need to provide me a list of the donors with the proof they are Gambian citizens and the copy of the receipts. The money has to be from individuals. Than I will not report you to Gambian (Not British) authorities and forgive you.
This party official is telling us he is ready to lead the nation, yet he is not able to manage his own party properly. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 14:20:48
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turk,
you make me |
Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 14:23:39
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Janko
Do I look like I am joking? I don't joke and I have no sense of humor. :)
Besides. You did not acknowledge the regulation I post about 'Gambian political party can't accept funding from the non-Gambian individuals or any corporations'. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 16 Jun 2010 14:26:31 |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 14:36:40
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turk,
I did not because I think there is no need; hence Gambian citizens can give financial support to their political parties. The question of who is Gambian citizen and who is not is another topic.
Secondly, I thought we agreed that, there is a need for government subsidies to political parties (as in Turkey) for fair competition, if it does not already exist…..OR
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Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 14:43:36
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Janko
I think this topic suffice to discuss that. The question of who is Gambian citizen and who is not is very significant, don't you think? Gambian authorities have no way to verify the funding campaign and the receipt that has happened outside of its jurisdiction. In Gambia, they can verify the receipt and the citizenship. But the funding happened in UK. Who knows maybe toubab1020 has given some money and we all know his suspicious activities about Gambia. This is the legal part of the argument.
Political side, you and I agree that there is a need for scheme of funding for political parties in Gambia. But, don't you think our party official finds this argument is not worth to discuss proving the lack of capability of UDP. I mean this party is telling us they will lead the nation but they don't have anything to say about the political funding scheme you and I are both agree. He said there is nothing to comment. Here is the opportunity to voice the policies. It is related to topic. It is about party funding scheme, but this incapable politician-wanna-be still says nothing to comment. I am very worried fellow Gambians not having a viable alternative for their government.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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toubab1020
12314 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 15:18:44
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TURK you say:
"Who knows maybe toubab1020 has given some money "
Not at all likley you know my feelings towards politics,and I am very tight anyway ! (Even though I am from England and not Scotland ) |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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sab
United Kingdom
912 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 15:53:24
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Well Turk you r well behind with your homework and must do better - back to 1996-IEC in The Gambia(history/events/chairmans/heads/sackings/interference etc.,) & following that onto the TRUE subsequent reasons behind the Jammeh sacking(s) of IEC personnel which is well covered in print and within this bantaba.
It could keep you off Bantaba 4 a while..
Anyway I must not diverse from Nyarikangbanna original posting.
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The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary) |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 16:25:29
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Sab
I don't know about the history/events back to 1996. I was a teenager that time chasing girls. Whatever happened may help me(us) understand better. My focus in this topic was, first, to get information and start discussion about the political funding from legal and political angle:
- Is there a regulation about political party funding schema?
- What are the political arguments to provide better platform for political parties so they can serve better in particulary funding. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Senegambia
175 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2010 : 19:07:49
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In principle funding received by every political party should be a matter for public discussions. And every politician should be accountable to the people. It's an interesting topic to discuss if it weren't a scheme for Turk's selective scruitinity aimed at contaminating genuine efforts of some Gambians in the Diaspora.
Recognizing the devious mindset depicted in his[Turks] postings, and knowing how sneaky he is in pretending that only the opposition in Gambia is at fault, I wonder if he indeed is a friend of Gambia. You may be lacking a sense of humor, but you still making people laugh..
Cheers
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