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kayjatta



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Posted - 30 Apr 2010 :  10:18:24  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
THE GUINEA BISSAU EFFECT: A WEB OF DRUGS MONEY AND POWER:

KAYJATTA.

The Gambia is reeling under embarrassing allegations of corruption, drug peddling, and money laundering. The ongoing trial of former Chief of Defense Staff (CDS) of the Gambia Armed Forces, Lang Tombong Tamba and seven others for alleged coup plot against the government of Rt. Colonel Yahya Jammeh, as well as the parallel court case against former Inspector General of Police (IGP), Ensa Badgie (aka Jesus) and the head of the Drug Squad, Bun Sanneh; is likely to damage the Gambia’s reputation. There has been a lot of concern about the growing use of the West African sub region as a drug transit point to Western Europe. Guinea Bissau particularly has been recently ravaged by local drug barons and their allies both in the government and the military. This, perhaps, has been a major driving factor in Guinea Bissau’s perennial political instability.The Gambia and Guinea Bissau have enjoyed good bi-lateral relations lately since the ‘cold war’ between the Gambia and its larger neighbor, Senegal. Officials in both civilian and military establishments have been going back and forth between the two countries, and although bi-lateral trade seems to have increased both the Gambia and Guinea Bissau continue to be under extremely difficult financial and budgetary pressure. What the Gambian population did not know, however, was that the illegal drug trade that has ravaged and made Guinea Bissau highly violent and ungovernable for years had infiltrated into the Gambia. It took the uncovering of an alleged coup plot in the Gambia and the involvement of a Gambian drug baron resident in Guinea Bissau called Rui Jabbi Gassama and a web of conspirators-suppliers and distributors- in the Gambia’s Police Force and Drug Squad (NDEA), for the government to take action.
The Gambia government recently arrested several high ranking military and police officers and their civilian conspirators and charged them with several counts of corruption, attempted forceful overthrow of government, and criminal defamation of President Jammeh. However, despite government’s open re-assurance of its resolve to stamp out illicit drugs in the Gambia, none of those arrested is charged with drug related offenses. Furthermore, the government’s decision to use the notorious Gambian drug lord and former intelligence officer, Rui Jabbi Gassamam as its primary prosecution witness has raised a lot of suspicion about the government’s integrity and extent of involvement in the sub-regional drug trade.
I think Jammeh's image and reputation is tainted already and as this drug and money laundering scandal unfolds in court and in the public square, we can only expect more damage to the integrity of the Jammeh presidency.The cases of IGP 'Ensa Badgie v. the State'; and Chief of the Drug Squad 'Bun Sanneh v. the State' could seriously implicate the President's office if the defense chooses to, albeit at their own peril. Defense attorneys in sensitive cases involving government are known to have been hunted and gunned down by the Gambia government operatives.
However, even in the worst case scenario, Jammeh will almost certainly sail through this scandal. If the President is significantly implicated in court testimonies by witnesses and other evidence, (which is very possible if the defense attorneys pursue that objective), the only possible way to rein in on Jammeh may perhaps be the Gambia's equivalent of an indictment by a 'grand jury' or ‘special tribunal’ to be followed by an impeachment if sufficient evidence exist that he may have committed a crime. He will flout it anyway, and both the judiciary and the legislature (National Assembly)have nothing to enforce a testimony from the President.
Even were a testimony was enforced, an impeachment will not proceed in the current National Assembly because of not only the APRC rubberstamp majority, but also because Jammeh has the powers to dissolve the National Assembly or fire individual lawmakers at any time.
All these actions will be futile exercise, except that the debacle will result in further erosion of the President's credibility and respect similar to what happened to Jawara during the corruptions scandals of his last years in office.
Meanwhile, the Gambia, with its scandalous high level of poverty and illitracy; drug abuse could literally be the final nail in our country's inglorious coffin...

Edited by - kayjatta on 30 Apr 2010 10:43:48

toubab1020



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Posted - 30 Apr 2010 :  12:16:46  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Kay,
This posting should make those who read it think very hard about what you have written,not being in the inner circle I am not qualified to make any comment,however there is one statement that that I would totally agree with that is "Jammeh will almost certainly sail through this scandal." I look forward to postings from those in the inner circle who are qualified to comment on what you have written,their views and proposals to deal with the disturbing contents, (should they be accurate), of your posting should be most interesting,assuming of course that they have comments and proposals to make,which is not a foregone conculsion.I like you await further postings on your new topic.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kayjatta



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Posted - 30 Apr 2010 :  12:31:56  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
Yes sir, we can say it all over again: "Jammeh will almost certainly sail through this scandal"...
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Janko

Gambia
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Posted - 30 Apr 2010 :  12:45:10  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message
Meanwhile, the Gambia, with its scandalous high level of poverty and illitracy; 
drug abuse could literally be the final nail in our country's inglorious coffin...

Thanks, Kay, for an interesting illustration

These are just some of the consequences of not paying a civil servant substantially to enable fending for his/her family. Now, am not saying that would eradicate corruption in its totality, hence greed and dishonesty will always be in society, but it would restrict it to the margins. The impact of corruption in general is far costlier then paying a substantial salary. Therefore to seriously fight corruption, is to pay a salary that can sustain a family.

Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy

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Momodou



Denmark
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Posted - 30 Apr 2010 :  12:47:50  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
Kay, you are on spot about the impeachment scenario. The amendment of the constitution making it possible for the president to fire individual lawmakers at any time or dissolve the National Assembly rules out any impeachment.

The amount of money flowing in the Gambia is quite evident that illicit money is involved. This environment is created by Yaya and he can’t wash his hands clean at this moment. The lawlessness starts with the fact that unnumbered vehicles are allowed to drive our streets making it easy for criminals both within and outside the security forces to transport anything without being stopped.

A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone
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kayjatta



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Posted - 30 Apr 2010 :  13:02:49  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
Exactly Momodou. High level criminal activity is allowed to thrive. perhaps that's what happens when one man has a secret "World Bank" of his own...
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kayjatta



2978 Posts

Posted - 01 May 2010 :  05:36:46  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Janko

Meanwhile, the Gambia, with its scandalous high level of poverty and illitracy; 
drug abuse could literally be the final nail in our country's inglorious coffin...

Thanks, Kay, for an interesting illustration

These are just some of the consequences of not paying a civil servant substantially to enable fending for his/her family. Now, am not saying that would eradicate corruption in its totality, hence greed and dishonesty will always be in society, but it would restrict it to the margins. The impact of corruption in general is far costlier then paying a substantial salary. Therefore to seriously fight corruption, is to pay a salary that can sustain a family.




True, but I think low pay is no excuse for corruption, Janko.
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toubab1020



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Posted - 01 May 2010 :  09:28:37  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Kay,Take corruption to its broader spectrum,I think that it is true to say that corruption exists in ALL societies and countries,
corruption is accepted as part of African culture,whilst in other countries corruption is underground and frowned upon in public but still exists and is thriving,give the right person money to get things done the way you want and things get much easier,its a fact,though we might not like it.
I agree with you when you write " True, but I think low pay is no excuse for corruption, Janko." However the FACT still remains if a worker is not paid a wage to enamble them to look after their family properly what are they supposed to do if you accept my proposition that corruption is endemic in Africa and now forms part of the culture.


"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Janko

Gambia
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Posted - 01 May 2010 :  11:15:52  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message
quote:
True, but I think low pay is no excuse for corruption, Janko.


Well, Kay,
is there a difference between "low-pay" and "underpaid"?
A hungry man does not have the luxury of choice, all he has in mind is to put food on the family table.
It is hard to make honest,patriotic men out of hungry-men.

Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy
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toubab1020



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Posted - 01 May 2010 :  12:19:00  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
"A hungry man does not have the luxury of choice, all he has in mind is to put food on the family table.
It is hard to make honest,patriotic men out of hungry-men"

Very good Janko,even if you are not a politician, I am sure you could make a very good living as a speech writer using a great statement like that ( seriously )


"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kayjatta



2978 Posts

Posted - 01 May 2010 :  15:14:05  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
I think real corrupt people in the Gambia and perhaps Africa and elsewhere goes far beyond the underpaid and the low paid workers. The people we are largely talking about here are the people in positions of responsibility and are in many caseswell-to-do, priviledged members of society and are. We are talking about cabinet ministers, parliamentarians, managing directors, CEOs,judges and yes presidents and heads of states. These are people who, if they try to live within their means, should not be corrupt, and thereby save their countries perhaps billions of dollars annually. These people are paid far above the averarge worker in their various socieities. Corruption is driven by greed in most cases, not deprivation. Large part of ill-gotten money goes to ostentatious buying, and sometimes as capital flight as they are stashed away in foreign (Swiss) banks.
I do not think corruption is an accepted way of life in Africa, it is pervasive, however. Most ordinary people are very angry at corrupt officials, and although many feel helpless and sometimes wants to condone it in different ways for a little share. It's perhaps the "big man syndrome" in the Gambia.
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Karamba



United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 May 2010 :  19:08:07  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message

Kay,

That is it. Those you rightly listed are not just settled in trusted public positions. They also serve as custodian of rules. In lot of cases they bend the rules and want to be seen right. They get infatuated with position and influence.

Look at Bun Sanneh, Ensa Badjie, and even Yaya Jammeh. You will notice the air of pumposity and arrogance filled in their atmosphere. They often feel above the laws. Bun would think all was arlight since the big man knows him and he plays for him in the same team. Ensa in no lesser way would build trust in the system he helped to ruin. There is so much to it.

All that boils down to the mistake by Gambians to sit watching Yaya Jammeh plunge the whole nation in deep waters and hot soup.

It is not just about the person of Yaya but anyone with that low level of commitment and desparate passion to ruin people, such persons are not good for public position.

Nothing will change in the greed and corruption level of Yaya and his gang. Spending 15 years under the roof of that State House will not change the dirty inner being of Yaya and his corrupt gang.

More troubling times lie ahead if Gambians will stay watching Yaya ride for another one hour not to mention a political term of 5 more years corruptible!

Karamba
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Moe



USA
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Posted - 01 May 2010 :  20:28:52  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
Okay kayjatta, lets just try to assume that some of the points raised are valid but please try to explain to me how the hell in the world can this implicate president Jammeh please explain, Stop acting like a retard and be serious now. According to your own analysis ,The cases of IGP 'Ensa Badgie v. the State'; and Chief of the Drug Squad 'Bun Sanneh v. the State' could seriously implicate the President's office if the defense chooses to, albeit at their own peril. What the hell are you talking about for starters the government had no involvement in this case ,it was the government that arrested the culprits and is charging them according ,Lets state facts and stop all this hypocritical propaganda , You are not smarter than anyone here. Unlike the fools that wannna be controversial I am still trying to understand what you mean by "The President Jammeh will sail right through it" The question remains he is in no way implicated thus far and Jesus's excuse to avoid being arrested was that he was authorized to do so. Your lack of knowledge about Gambia is reflective of the assertions you make bro.

If Jammeh was in any way involved trust me the party will still be on. You people are so ungovernable and unrealistic yet claiming democracy and freedom of speech at the same time . As usual the Gambian will use people of authority to their own benefits and this has been the trend ,everyone cliams and is claiming that their sycophancy was authorized by the president to avoid being questioned.

On a daily basis they are proven wrong and sent to jail or fired and this includes cabinet ministers .As exhibited ,I can reassure you that the diaspora is made up of pathological liars, Losers and just wanna be's . It's amazing how time and distance turns grown men into myopic and backward individuals , The integrity of the government is unfettered and as observed I doubt any involvemnent.

You really think the president will have to testify ,LOl you got to be one retarded fool if this is what you are hoping , Jesus will go to jail no questions asked. He is as guilty as sin and will be charged accordingly I wish you people only knew Whats Up?..............................................Peace
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Originally posted by kayjatta

THE GUINEA BISSAU EFFECT: A WEB OF DRUGS MONEY AND POWER:

KAYJATTA.

The Gambia is reeling under embarrassing allegations of corruption, drug peddling, and money laundering. The ongoing trial of former Chief of Defense Staff (CDS) of the Gambia Armed Forces, Lang Tombong Tamba and seven others for alleged coup plot against the government of Rt. Colonel Yahya Jammeh, as well as the parallel court case against former Inspector General of Police (IGP), Ensa Badgie (aka Jesus) and the head of the Drug Squad, Bun Sanneh; is likely to damage the Gambia’s reputation. There has been a lot of concern about the growing use of the West African sub region as a drug transit point to Western Europe. Guinea Bissau particularly has been recently ravaged by local drug barons and their allies both in the government and the military. This, perhaps, has been a major driving factor in Guinea Bissau’s perennial political instability.The Gambia and Guinea Bissau have enjoyed good bi-lateral relations lately since the ‘cold war’ between the Gambia and its larger neighbor, Senegal. Officials in both civilian and military establishments have been going back and forth between the two countries, and although bi-lateral trade seems to have increased both the Gambia and Guinea Bissau continue to be under extremely difficult financial and budgetary pressure. What the Gambian population did not know, however, was that the illegal drug trade that has ravaged and made Guinea Bissau highly violent and ungovernable for years had infiltrated into the Gambia. It took the uncovering of an alleged coup plot in the Gambia and the involvement of a Gambian drug baron resident in Guinea Bissau called Rui Jabbi Gassama and a web of conspirators-suppliers and distributors- in the Gambia’s Police Force and Drug Squad (NDEA), for the government to take action.
The Gambia government recently arrested several high ranking military and police officers and their civilian conspirators and charged them with several counts of corruption, attempted forceful overthrow of government, and criminal defamation of President Jammeh. However, despite government’s open re-assurance of its resolve to stamp out illicit drugs in the Gambia, none of those arrested is charged with drug related offenses. Furthermore, the government’s decision to use the notorious Gambian drug lord and former intelligence officer, Rui Jabbi Gassamam as its primary prosecution witness has raised a lot of suspicion about the government’s integrity and extent of involvement in the sub-regional drug trade.
I think Jammeh's image and reputation is tainted already and as this drug and money laundering scandal unfolds in court and in the public square, we can only expect more damage to the integrity of the Jammeh presidency.The cases of IGP 'Ensa Badgie v. the State'; and Chief of the Drug Squad 'Bun Sanneh v. the State' could seriously implicate the President's office if the defense chooses to, albeit at their own peril. Defense attorneys in sensitive cases involving government are known to have been hunted and gunned down by the Gambia government operatives.
However, even in the worst case scenario, Jammeh will almost certainly sail through this scandal. If the President is significantly implicated in court testimonies by witnesses and other evidence, (which is very possible if the defense attorneys pursue that objective), the only possible way to rein in on Jammeh may perhaps be the Gambia's equivalent of an indictment by a 'grand jury' or ‘special tribunal’ to be followed by an impeachment if sufficient evidence exist that he may have committed a crime. He will flout it anyway, and both the judiciary and the legislature (National Assembly)have nothing to enforce a testimony from the President.
Even were a testimony was enforced, an impeachment will not proceed in the current National Assembly because of not only the APRC rubberstamp majority, but also because Jammeh has the powers to dissolve the National Assembly or fire individual lawmakers at any time.
All these actions will be futile exercise, except that the debacle will result in further erosion of the President's credibility and respect similar to what happened to Jawara during the corruptions scandals of his last years in office.
Meanwhile, the Gambia, with its scandalous high level of poverty and illitracy; drug abuse could literally be the final nail in our country's inglorious coffin...


I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....

Edited by - Moe on 01 May 2010 20:32:07
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Kitabul Arerr



Gambia
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Posted - 01 May 2010 :  21:29:01  Show Profile Send Kitabul Arerr a Private Message
If the long arm of the law isn't long enough in present day Gambia, to grab the untouchables, and bring them to justice, then the International Dragnet should get the job done with it's wider reach. Let justice prevail..........................................................................lol!


The New Gambia - Stronger Together!
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Moe



USA
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Posted - 01 May 2010 :  22:14:50  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
Only in your wildest imaginations Kitabul Arrer , Long arm of the law my butt,what are you smoking today?, The real drug dealers are not your average police officers, They just help during the entry level of the said transactions. Either through transportation and reassurance that they are not stopped . You are amateurs my good ole brother. The problem with Ya'll is you've been busy lying to Gambian children for the past 15 years ,most of ya'll forgot how to be TRUTHFUL ."Duul Rekk ak Propaganda bu duut Jeeh" . I will tell you what I know ,It is because of your lies and wild imaginations that most crimes in Gambia have gone unresolved and I would like to assume this includes the assassination of Deyda Hydara. You people are an insult to his legacy best believe. deyda if not anything was not a Goddamn liar or traitor to his own nation. Tell me how many of you *******s said you knew who did killed Deyda, Personally I would like to think it was one of you Kleptomaniacs and wanna be coupist, I doubt there is anything you would not do to hold the government responsible and accountable to God knows Who. Lol, I will once again ask any brave soul to come and testify as to who did it . My point here is all these baseless accusations were levied by unscrupulous politicians and they know themselves. Ya'll need to start being real to your audience if ya'll want any kind of credibility. How is Jammeh involved in the recent activities if his name was just used as an excuse ,please elaborate my good friend or maybe Brasangular can elaborate ,Monkey see monkey do.................................................Peace .

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....

Edited by - Moe on 01 May 2010 22:18:08
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Janko

Gambia
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Posted - 01 May 2010 :  23:40:44  Show Profile  Visit Janko's Homepage Send Janko a Private Message
Kay,
Hence we are all products of society. Lets look at corruption from a wider perspective, from, say a social structural level; beyond the individual.

There will always be dishonesty in society. Corruption can not be eradicated but controlled and taken to its minimum level. Fighting corruption therefore means limiting its extent, putting it under control by mending some of the administrative structural inadequacies making it possible. To archive a high-level incorruptibility is (well, there is no absolute answer, nor a once and for all solution) to understand and highlight the unintentional structural weaknesses encouraging the practice.

If a civil servant gets up every morning, 30 days in the month to go to work, s/he ought to be able to feed a family of four (father, mother and two children) with the salary.If not.
How would the civil servant remedy this “income outfall?

Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy
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