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turk
USA
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 Posted - 26 Jan 2010 : 22:37:36
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jan 2010 : 02:03:21
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Thanks, Shaka
To be realistic is to put ones political ideology in perspective through a concrete ALTERNATIVE budget proposition that would give us an option, as at now there is only one budget proposition, in whatever form it may be, perfect or defected, besides perfection is not the goal of a budget proposition.
Well you can put your priorities where you think fits best, but that does not make them more relevant than any other. It is naive to encourage the false hope that anybody that has a question, an idea, or a different stance as to “the way forward” should start a new political party, who would be the electorate.
Thanks, turk
You know what am talking about, do not drain the engine of the oil you did not put in.
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shaka
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Posted - 28 Jan 2010 : 03:19:04
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| I do not set the order of priority of Gambia's political, economical or social events. I do know that time is not on the side of opposition to harp on insignificant actions that have very little impact on the daily reality of the masses to effect any meaningful change. If i were you, i would rather they scrutinize the 2010 budget and take the government to task on what is a sham of a budget report, on behalf of the people. You do not have to be Mr politician to present an alternative budget proposition. You are as entitled to suggest any alternative proposition or hatch the 'way forward' as much as Mr Politician. Maybe you should as well just have a crack at it, while Mr Politician is seemingly so slow, if at all this act is nagging you to the point of obsession like it seems with you. Besides, the battle to change a bad system of government is incumbent on all of us not just Mr Politician. If surrender all your rights to effect this change to Mr Politician, then you risk recycling the bad system over and over again. Thanks. |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 10 Feb 2010 : 02:16:32
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Ring bell, ring
An old road leads to an old Town
A new road leads to a new Town
Ring in motivation
Ring out the whispering brushes of stagnation
The still standing bird in my yard
Ring, ring, ring out
The rumours of change
That never comes
Ring bell
The dormant elegance of pride
Pride empty of reason
Reason
Reason of existence
Of unity
Unity of heart
Of intention
Yes bell, ring
Ring in Illumination
Until then
Ring the sharpest notes of fortitude
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 10 Feb 2010 : 02:24:41
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Janko,
Message well sunken. You have captured the very form and essence. Big salutes! |
Karamba |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 10 Feb 2010 : 18:26:11
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Thanks, Karamba
Allama kairo sabatiila, a mang sonnoya
there will be no change
if the present political discourse keeps the same space
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 17 Mar 2010 : 13:15:39
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The alternative budget proposition
Mr. Politician
Time is running out
Where is your economic plan
For the Gambia
Mr. Politician
The master plan
The ultimate strategy
The final move
Mr. Politician
What is new
What is true
What are we to suppose
That you are the man
To deliver us
Give us a development plan
The cost and ideal
The game winning plan
Something ... -new |
Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
Edited by - Janko on 17 Mar 2010 13:17:07 |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 29 Mar 2010 : 19:31:50
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Corruption does not grow on an infertile land
Janko has no time to be patriotic
A law abiding and law enforcing policeman
Be honest, when his family needs to eat
Janko has no time to be innovative
Or think about ways to improve
His place of work
Or develop a cordial relation with workmates
To enhance an inspiring working condition
The children’s school fees
The schoolbooks
School lunch
Study fees
Janko works the whole month
His salary does not pay his rent
He must put food on the table
Mr. Politician, how do you expect Janko to be an honest, law abiding and a law enforcing police officer when he can not fend for his family with his salary. How do you expect Janko to have time to think about improvement at work, be innovative when his children risk sleeping on an empty belly. Mr. Politician, how do you expect Janko to feed his family when he goes to work in Banjul and has to pay for his transportation from a salary that is not enough to pay his house rent?
Mr. Politician is it not unconstitutional to ask Janko to abide by the law when his monthly salary has no relation to the increase in price of the basic commodities he needs to feed his family. (a bag of rice is 1000 dalasi), that as a worker his salary doses not reflect the general rise in commodity price.
This is the fertilizer corruption needs to grow smoothly, hence the family must feed, the children must go to school,fees must be paid.
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 31 Mar 2010 : 23:18:01
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The Deputy Inspector General of Police
Author: Daily Observer
...Your Excellency, I don't think I can find words that can really convey my feeling at thus moment. However God the Almighty knows that I am sincerely indebted to you for this great honour. You cannot imagine, Your Excellency, what you have for me without looking at it from the angle of empowering me economically to facilitate my ability in enhancing the general welfare of my family independently; raising my social image as an employee of your government, how dignifying; boosting of my morale and laundering off the shame I felt being removed for, ostensibly not having lived up to your expectation;...
If a monthly salary cannot uphold a family then surely all will fall apart.
A man who cannot fend for his family with his monthly salary cannot enforce the law or be innovative at work; hence his constant worry both at work and after would be how to put food on the table. How does that social reality affect the administration of justice, honesty and (patriotism)?
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 01 Apr 2010 : 03:13:10
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And Janko... But you expect too much from politicians. Gambia remains to be one of the top poorest country in the world. Even you had a leader like Mandale, Gandhi, Ataturk will change the fact that Gambians do not have the wealth. When I talk about Gambian realities, in this case, lower GDP per capita, as the obstacle for good governence. You did not really appreciate my arguement. Looks like you are now on agreement.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 01 Apr 2010 : 06:55:38
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Mr.Politican has no time to be patriotic
A law abiding politician
Be honest, when his family needs to eat
Mr.Politician has no time to be innovative
Or think about ways to improve
His place of work
Or develop a cordial relation with workmates
To enhance an inspiring working condition
The children’s school fees
The schoolbooks
School lunch
Study fees
Mr.Politician works the whole month
His salary does not pay his rent
He must put food on the table
If a monthly salary cannot uphold a family then surely all will fall apart.
A politician who cannot fend for his family with his monthly salary cannot make the law or be innovative at work; hence his constant worry both at work and after would be how to put food on the table. How does that social reality affect the administration of justice, honesty and (patriotism)?
Regards
Mr.Politician
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 01 Apr 2010 : 16:09:33
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turk
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No, the solution is, a monthly salary should fend for a family of four, at least |
Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2010 : 20:54:25
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Block politics and forms of coalitions – the Swedish example
As part of the political discourse in Gambia the need to follow up and give examples from other countries is vital for the way forward. Hence dialogue, the people and ideas that grow from the political discourses around the world have profound effects on politics in Gambia. In addition politicians are not only expected to sit in the national assembly but also represent Gambia in the world bringing the same values of dialogue and leadership qualities that they encountered in Gambian politics.
To have interparty dialogue political, economical or social issues demands common ground, the nation and the wellbeing of her people. This transcends regional, personal interest/gain and ideological positions. The current political atmosphere in Sweden is an example of block politics, a form of coalition and how it is archived practically. Not because Sweden and Gambia could be compared in any way but because it is the nearest example at hand and it is election year. An elected government sits for four years after which it has to renew its mandate in a general election but there is no limit to how many terms or years a person can be Prime minister.
The Swedes will be going to the polls in September this year, to elect a new government for the next four years. This is the forth year after the last election when a bourgeois coalition was elected to serve a mandate period of four years. This is the first time in Swedish parliamentary history that block politics has divided the seven main political parties in two main ideological blocks. The socialist block is composed of The Social democrat, The Left and The Environment (Miljö) parties, this block is sometimes called The Red Green Coalition and the bourgeois block is composed of The Conservatives, The Center, The Folk(peoples´) and Christian democratic parties. The Swedes have accepted block politics as the way forward and a means to include as many voices in the political process as possible. Where political parties sharing the same ideological basis find a common ground where they negotiate alternative solutions to healthcare, public transport, communication/infrastructure, education, tax reductions which they present to the electorate without merging or compromising their position in the political arena.
The political parties understand their members are not stable they move from party to party and to the party that adheres to their problems at a particular time. Hence the problems or issues that concern the electorate are not static but dynamic. For example the questions of tax reductions, education, immigration and infrastructure were amongst dominating issues in the last election completely different from the burning issues in the mid nineties. The parties learn to be flexible in both finding solutions and addressing the shifting urgency of issues from election to election with credibility. Apart from the ideological value that forms the basis of a political block the wellbeing of the nation is the foundation on which all political blocks build their ideas of what is the best for the country and leave the electorate to decide. The question is how do they do it, how do they negotiate a common ground not contradictory to their individual party programs and accepted by their party loyalists?
The point of departure for both blocks is the state finance, which covers from tax to budget deficit. An example of such a fight for voters in this year’s election started with the budget proposition of the sitting government, the bourgeois block. Thereafter the opposition Red green coalition showed its cards and how the negotiations are moving forward. The opposition in its negotiations reached an agreement about the “housing policy”, that when they are elected they would reinstate investment grants to “rental properties” and this time with an environmental profile to get the Environment Party (the greens) on board, in addition, a reinforcement of regulation that enables communes to administer different types of housing. All communes are also forced to have a Housing Agency of their own or together with others in the region. More systematic, this is an answer to the demand from the Left.
But the amount of money to be invested is not clear and everything that costs money has to be compared with the government’s spring budget and accounted for in the oppositions answer to the government’s spring budget. The opposition is expected to be ready with its calculations before the end of March. Hence that would assure the electorate that concerning the economy the opposition is as responsible as the sitting government and at the same time a reply to the government’s trump card “responsibility”. It is very important the opposition clarify and concretize its plans in relation to the spring budget and leaves no questions unanswered in their preparations for election. So the opposition must spell out all its intentions as a new government in 2011, when the new parliamentarians and government would be sworn in. This does not mean the opposition has reached agreement on all points; there are big differences on taxes where the Left will increase twice as high as the Greens and Social democrats. They must come to agreement if they want to be a genuine alternative. This entails serious and hard negotiations therefore one or two things licks from the negotiations table to the media creating a public debate but come what may the negotiations have to go on.
“One man can not fight a dozen”
Politics itself is a collective effort not a one-man task. A collective problem can not be solved by one-man.
To put block politics at the center means creating a common ground where political parties discourse and negotiate their party programs within the confines of one nation and one people. Where the implementation of a party program is more important than who becomes or should be president. Therefore the party program forms the basis of negotiation and implementation.
There are lessons to be drawn from the political discourse in Gambia. First, it is vital that we maintain and extend the essence and vision of a democratic multiparty system. That is to resist a framework where nepotism divides the nation into factions and where each faction talks amongst itself about others, to one in which nationals from all over the country learn from each other and create the national platform together. The most important aspect of creating a national sense together is not the insights it brings into the nation itself, but the relationship it helps to stimulate. It is not easy to form a political arena where people from different groups and works of life can create together; it demands perseverance, lots of time and massive creative energy.
Secondly, the togetherness creates a deep sense of oneness and not just mere ideas about each other. For example some people associate to parties for regional reasons or areas they come from. Others have ties all over the country more broadly and define themselves according to parties or their creative urge to push boundaries. A dialogue would serve as a point of connection for the understanding and execution of political ideas. Political discourse about the nation is not communicating ideas about others but rather it is about creating together through a process of dialogue and respect.
It is together that we can overcome our economic, social and political problems not by standing by or pointing a finger.
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Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
Edited by - Janko on 05 Apr 2010 19:46:41 |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 14 Apr 2010 : 17:39:20
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quote:
Posted - 31 Mar 2010 : 23:18:01
The Deputy Inspector General of Police
...Your Excellency, I don't think I can find words that can really convey my feeling at thus moment. However God the Almighty knows that I am sincerely indebted to you for this great honour. You cannot imagine, Your Excellency, what you have for me without looking at it from the angle of empowering me economically to facilitate my ability in enhancing the general welfare of my family independently; raising my social image as an employee of your government, ...
Marie Saine-Firdaus,
Former AG & Minister of Justice Daily Observer
Please allow me on behalf of my family and on my own behalf to convey sincere appreciation and thanks to you for the opportunity that you have granted me to serve the people of this great nation of ours, The Gambia as Attorney General and Minister of Justice.
Your Excellency, since I assumed office in September 2007, I had pledged to serve in your Government with commitment, dedication and honesty to the best of my ability and I had endeavored to live up these values which Your Excellency personally believes in and expects all Gambians to abide by if we are to make The Gambia a nation that is second to none in the entire world....
Y.A. Drammeh
Ex-Major General
...Your Excellency, I equally want to use this rare occasion to thank you most sincerely for the absolute trust and confidence you had and continue to bestow on me, especially during my tenure with the Gambia Armed Forces (GAF). Most importantly, I must confess that I was really touched, impressed and honoured when you generously elevated my status to the prestigious positions of chief of Army Staff and subsequently, Deputy Chief of Defence Staff of the GAF. Honestly, both appointments came as a big surprise to me; for which I remained exceedingly grateful and dutiful....
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Edited by - Janko on 14 Apr 2010 18:54:54 |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 14 Apr 2010 : 19:27:02
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If Gambia is your home and your profession is a politican or a military man or police chief of a high rank you face the daily thought of a knock at your door at night or early morning by the men with dark glasses and a vehicle without number plates,to be whisked away, where,who can tell, your family may not be able to locate you easily,and if you are very lucky H.E. may intervene and set you free,that obviously deserves a letter of thanks at the very least.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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