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Dembish
Gambia
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 Posted - 09 May 2006 : 21:57:35
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| Thank you all, in every democracy,debating in instrumental which in one way or the other leads to a concensus.Remember guys the home work is at the advance stage and the result shall soon be out.we should not conpromise in establishing the truth.. |
There is no egg without a chicken, and no chicken without egg. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 May 2006 : 05:51:25
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Its apropriate to refresh and reflect on these sombre words and progress on this topic. Although "Tribalism" and/or "Racism" are dead end issues, there are answers and means to combat them and bringing together people from every background and diversity to settle them down together in their conflicts of interests and live in peace.
The Gambia National Anthem
Sing along!
For The Gambia, our homeland
We strive and work and pray,
That all may live in unity,
Freedom and peace each day.
Let justice guide our actions
Towards the common good,
And join our diverse peoples
To prove man's brotherhood.
We pledge our firm allegiance,
Our promise we renew;
Keep us, great God of nations,
To The Gambia ever true.
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kassma
334 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2006 : 07:31:58
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Originally posted by kobo
Kassama crude way of traditinalism is not the way forward. If you maintain your traditions you live like an Island. We should integrate based on mutual respect and share good common values. There is no better sytem than the other. Mankind and the human race is one and we need to be guided by civilisisation and rationale.
i'm not really taking about traditionalism, i'm just talking about being able to get along enough to be able to live together |
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kassma
334 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2006 : 07:49:57
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Originally posted by gambiabev
tribes divide a country..religion CAN unite.....
no, i disagree, i think religion has an even greater dividing power than ethnic groups do. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2006 : 08:23:32
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| Only if "Religion" is tainted by corruption, greed, bad preachers and wrong interpretation of good scriptures and revelations. Since time immemorial, we have two parties; Adam and Eve, Left and Right, Believers and Non-Believers, Good and Evil, Positive and Negative, and the lists goes on and on; and that brought Equilibrium and Rivalry till dooms days. However, the "Human Race" is given high intellegence and more potentials to survive and manipulate the earthly creations whether for its benefit or for distruction. I don't know but do hope that the advancement of knowledge, science and technology provides more benefits than destruction in this advance world? |
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kassma
334 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2006 : 08:28:46
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| i think as unstable africa is right now, religion needs to be taken out of the equation. its a very powerful dividing force. for example, most of the Gambian girls here that are my age are muslim, as a christian, and a child of a christian, i never got to see my age group much to befriend them,suma moromi, since my christian parents didn't/ don't hang around their muslim parents. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 May 2006 : 08:31:58
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Religion can be a dividing force such as in Northern Ireland between Cathloics and Protestants. This can have terrible consequences for the ordinary people trying to live their lives amongst this.
What I meant was in the Gambian context religion can be a unifiying force. Whatever tribe people belong to the majority are still Muslim and this faith comes before tribe for most ordinary Gambian Muslims.
OR does tribe come before faith?????
I am not sure? |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2006 : 09:08:43
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Religion is another political force and where politics exists there are conflicts to arose and misguided actions from certain individuals. Gambiabeve made a general statement and referred to us to reflect on our one of our major religions to inspire us and resolve the disputes and misunderstanding in that context, where advice was really necessary for peace and progress.
However if we are indoctrinated by our parents, the family, preachers to shun other people based on their religion, colour, race etc, people would always be against each other. If we indentify some basic values amongst ourselves and see each other as "intelligent! human beings" and want to appreciate love, compassion, understanding and tolerance society would advance.
We need our religions to inspire and guide us and I do not see hatred being promoted in all major religions. In my religion Islam, one of the Chapters of the Holy Quran- Sura Al-Kafirun 109 Ayat 1-5 interpretes as follows:-
1. Say: O ye That reject Faith
2. I worship not that which ye worship
3. Not will ye worship That which I worship
4. And that I will not worship That which ye have been Wont to
worship
5. Nor will ye worship That which I worship.
Faith is a matter of personal conviction, and does not depend on wordly motives. Worship should depend on pure and sincere faith, but often does not; for motives of wordly gain, ancestral custom, social conventions or initiative instincts, or a lethargic instinct to shrink from enquiring into the real significance of solemn acts and the motives behind them, reduce a great deal of the world's worship to sin, selfishness, or futility.
This Chapter defines the right attitude to Faith and in matters of Truth, but interpretes also or emphasises there is no need to persecute or abuse anyone for his faith or belief. "You worship what you belief and I worship what I belief".
These are to inspire each individual irrespective of race, creed, colour or religion about liberalism and freedom. |
Edited by - kobo on 10 May 2006 23:36:40 |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 10 May 2006 : 23:47:02
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Kobo
It is not Friday yet. Save some of your canons until Friday.(laugh) |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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Biraago
Gambia
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Posted - 10 May 2006 : 23:47:58
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Gambiabev,
I don't have much to add after Kobo's brillient intervention.
I just want to remind you that, The Irish struggle is against colonial dominace from Britts who were ferried to the Island juring colonial time just as in South Africa among other territories.
Both the Catholics and the Protestants happen to be from the same religion, Christianity.
So, as Kobo emphasized, it is the motive behind the ideology that a struggle is waged which is the fundamental question. |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 10 May 2006 : 23:53:30
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Originally posted by kassma
i think as unstable africa is right now, religion needs to be taken out of the equation. its a very powerful dividing force. for example, most of the Gambian girls here that are my age are muslim, as a christian, and a child of a christian, i never got to see my age group much to befriend them,suma moromi, since my christian parents didn't/ don't hang around their muslim parents.
Kassma
i think your example is just a about growing up in a different country and environment.most of the gambian girls there might not be your friend but surely they have met others who are christians at school or something and are friends with them?
if you were in the gambia ' sa morom yee'' would hang out with you and you would befriend them all because you would live in the same street,go to school with them, some would be your relatives and both your parents would hang around in the same social events.infact you will not realise that you dont share the same religion. trust me.
some of my closest friends are christians and our parents are close friends too. its just a different setup. you can't compare it directly.
you have a different experience growing up outside gambia, |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2006 : 00:04:54
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Njuks
Infact all the manjakos i have known are christians. hardly any muslims among them. So you do not need to go very far. She has family on both sides and certainly would be dealing with all of them. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 11 May 2006 : 08:15:07
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| To add to that, Gambia is exemplary on religion as there is mutual respect between the two major religions i.e christians and muslims. We sit and dine together and the religious leaders exchange visits and solemn occassions they pray together side by side openly. During christmas, easter muslims are involved in certain cultural carnivals and there is lots of entertainment, sharing, giving of gifts and taking in the spirit of christmas and easter etc. Likewise on "Eids" or "tobaski" etc the christians enjoy them with us. That does not happen to be not only traditional but we have a mix-faith acknowledge in the family existing for a very long time. Religion came to us through colonisation and trade. Many families are with mix-faiths as some are seen to be christians and others muslims. The society condones that and we are so tensely integrated that you can walk in any home and eat and dine with them. Thats a blessing for Gambians to be proud of their peaceful co-existence; and is there to stay?. |
Edited by - kobo on 11 May 2006 11:34:48 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 May 2006 : 03:43:40
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