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dbaldeh
USA
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 Posted - 17 May 2006 : 23:22:04
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The issue of tribe is a sensitve one. However, we have to accept reality that tribes exist in the Gambia and will always exist. Tribalism is not our problem as it is only talked about in the context of politics. Socially, and economically all tribes are suffering in the Gambia.
Our country is one of the most intermingled ones in history. Can anyone tell me a major incident when one tribe got into a fight with other tribes? I am born and brought up Fula. I spend most of my life in Mandinkas and have more mandinka friends than any other group. My wife is wolof/fula. The minor tribal remarks like Mandinka calling someone small Jola or fula has always been there, but this does not amount to any serious hatred between the people.
We should level up with reality. As elites, we have failed the people and always use the tribal line when we want something. Ignorance, selfishness, and lack of knowledge is the crime in our society. Fula, wolof, Jola or mandika we all eat the same dirt and live in the same darkness day in and day out. We are all victims of economic and political injustice. Until we put that backward thinking out of our minds and work for a common purpose, our people will continue to be dehumanized and reduced to beast.
Stand up for common justice.....
Peace |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2006 : 23:30:19
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| Baldeh Banna. Ajarama. Hoto Naidi ma. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2006 : 23:34:24
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TRANSLATION please!  |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2006 : 23:36:30
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sorry
Baldeh, the elite. Thank you. Where are your cattles.
This is a traditional greetings you offer for baldehs. They are traditional rulers. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2006 : 23:45:37
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Thanks for explaining it.  i know there will be some people that will think because it is a Gambian web site why should we translate? I can empathise with that point of view. But if you want lotso f people to log on and view the web site it needs to be as accessible as possible.
Thanks again for sparing the time to translate. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 17 May 2006 : 23:59:03
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“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 18 May 2006 : 00:08:54
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We have lost all our cattle which was one time and still stand to be one of our most viable economic opportunities to uplift our economy. Everything about cattle is good. You can eat the meat,drink the milk,make butter(gee), cheese and, create a factory to turn the skins into leader, use the cow dunk for farming etc. Oh what a wasted resource.
This was one viable economic sector that Jawara and others neglected until we have no cattle anymore. No one wants to rear animals only to see them die one at a time. I would be proud to go back rearing my cattle and feeding the world again.
You don't know what you have until you lose it. GORAAM(Sadly)
Gambians today should have taken pride in farming. Fisheris, livestock, rice, millet, groundnuts etc is our foundation. Sadly we lost it all thinking about oil and dreaming in cyberspace.
Peace
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Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 18 May 2006 : 00:12:56
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| I dont think you will be a good GAINAKO(herdsman). You have eaten so many burgers now i bet the heat and the fear of KONDORONG in the bush is enough to deter you |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 18 May 2006 : 00:25:27
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Am actually working harder than Gainakos used to do. I am stock in front of my little magic machine all day depriving me of enjoying the beauty of the world.
What better place to be than listening all day to the beauty of nature...? birds singing, and cool breeze blowing all day....
My brain is shrinking everyday as it is programed to act this way or that way.
With that sinking brain I always think about ways to reach out to our people back home. We are in crunch time and the political landscage ought to change. Sadly, every minute lost is precious to our future. May be a shepherd could do a better job than pine wine tapper (laughing)... but, crying for Gambia deep inside my heard.
Peace |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 18 May 2006 : 00:40:50
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| Well i know the jolas will do no harm to the fulas. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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Dembish
Gambia
284 Posts |
Posted - 18 May 2006 : 01:11:54
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This issue is important and as the saying goes it should be handle with proper care as well.but failure to condem descriminations based on tribalism will yeild a result that could be very unpleasant.My only concern it if we failed to unite in condeming it today, it could lead in future to a Gambia where the tribe of the man in power will have a total domination in term of posts and opportunies.what is happening in The Gambia today by Jammeh cannot be justified in anyother term than genuine TRIBALISM. Lets face the fact jammeh is appointing people based on tribal affilliation.This is not fair against us all.I sometimes ago promised this forum about evidence of tribalism in the The gambia, below is just a part of the home work so far as we haven't touch the army, education,health and other institutions then sifoes and alkalos.
1.Malang Jarjue -sec.of state for Local go. and Land
2.Baboucarr Jatta- sec. of state for interior
3.Famara jatta- governor Central bank of the Gambia.
3.Landing jarjue- immigration commissioner.
4.Fabakary jatta - nominated pan african paliamentarian
5.Bakary Badjie- sec.general NAYCO
6.Dembo badjie- The Gambia high commisioner Siereleon.
7.Abdou Badjie - commissioner westernDiViSion
8.Abdou badjie-The ambassador to Taiwan
9.John P. Bojang- (appointment based on nepotism)
Susan waffa ogo- (appointment based on nepotism.)
More revelations yet to come from the army, police and the rest.No grudges mean at all but in the interest of fair play and justice.
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 18 May 2006 : 01:38:43
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hello Dembish
set! tait! tait! lolu barrina(too much) |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 18 May 2006 : 20:45:33
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Dembish,
Jammeh can appoint all the people he wishes, but watch he will come back and crush them one after the other. Did you forget what happens to his so called uncle Kujabi?
Jammeh's victims are mostly people close to him. If this is not a lesson to anyone, then I don't know when they will learn a lesson. Watch and see how he will diminish his own people. The man has no sense of balance or direction.
He can appoint all the Jammehs, Bojangs and Badgies he can reach because he does not have anymore people to appointment. In the kingdom of the blind, the one eye man is the king. His appointments are desperate moves as evident by recycling people over and over in the same positions.
I have always maintained that the Gambian civil service should have collapse by now. Jammeh should not be able to work with any credible person regardless of your economic hardship. Please read one article I wrote on allgambian titled "Civil servants must demand respect from the President.. it was address to civil servants and service men and women. Tell me what you think.
Peace |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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kaanibaa
United Kingdom
1169 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2006 : 09:43:24
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| when the old sage said ''julobula baala anning baa bula julola'' [/b] he said it all . the truth is that the most important matter is for the opposition to forget their differences now! rejoin hands to defeat the beast.who joins who is irrevant for now.This tribal issue is about to cloud some minds and would very soon diminish the tempor of movement towards change. Come on guys, let's forget who is what. Only remember that the Gambia is sinking.All those in the boat should be of the same ambition to wit safe the boat.Bu ken wengal gaal gi y ! ah am buvvered |
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somita
United Kingdom
163 Posts |
Posted - 19 May 2006 : 16:47:43
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Dembish, I am disappointed with your so called research to say the least, its not your kid-on research that chuned my stomach rather Kondorong remarked that followed it. Together I can assert without fear of exergeration that you could easily edit the next edition of daily observer and the readers will not realise it ( little bit over the top ....but you can see my point).
I know its tempting for me to jump to conclusion but I will hold my nerves until you make available all the data that you have collected. I was expecting a proper data collection produre not elimentary listing which am sure my sister in Grade 5 could have done a better job.
Its hard to convince anyone in their right mind with the exception of Kondorong, with such a scanty statistics, that make no mention of individuals merits for a position or individuals educational authority or other qualify individuals that could have fill the position and were not selected because of their tribe. Is it true that you have fomulated an opinion and went looking for statistic that would back you up ...a very dangerous course. You have successfully demonstrated your ignorance as far as statistic is concern, if anything your so call research results show we are far from an established tribal institutionalisation.
In research one has to show consistency to produce a respectable results, may be you should take a list all the government department, take note of the top 5 or specific number of officials, check their educaitonal, work experience, civil service background and tribals lines, only and only then that you can produce some respectable results that can add value or merit your grave conclusion. I am very worried about tabloid style research of picking and choosing aspect that fits your opinion and marshal them to sway readers opinion. I'm sure daily observer does just that and very successfully.
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