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kayjatta



2978 Posts

Posted - 23 Oct 2009 :  08:28:34  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
Is that a 'yes', Turk?
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toubab1020



12314 Posts

Posted - 23 Oct 2009 :  11:12:01  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Entrenched views cannot be dislodged or reasoned with.


quote:
Originally posted by toubab1020

WOW,(and I don't mean "yes" !) Lurker,what a posting, everything covered,I posted earlier, and I must admit when things turned from racism to religion I thought I am not sufficiently into the subject as posters here are ,so from then on no discussion from me,your words sum up the feelings and thoughts of "the man on the Clapham omnibus" (an english saying that basically means the thoughts of the ordinary folk of the country).


quote:
Originally posted by lurker

karamba, eloquent, insightful, relevant and objective words indeed.....



"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 23 Oct 2009 :  14:18:23  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Kayjatta

Of course it is 'yes'. All militants have mission. Evangalists, Ortodox Jews, or IRA, Tamil. But seem like you like to pick on only muslims militanism :) :) Do not ignore the bloodiest militarist Bush who was crusader on holy mission :)

There are equal chances to be racist in every communities whether British, Pakistani, African, Afro-American or Turkish. Equally, I was the victim of racism in Gambia by Africans or Jamaica. Look at the disgusting sick individual, tamsier. He openly states he hates muslims, arabs, turks. I am ashamed with some of the Turks are worse racist than tamsier. Imagine, sicko Tamsier is a police officer and stop me at a check point and seeing my Turkish Passport?

Whether ppl like lurker and madiba can ping pong about brits or muslims for being more racist, it is so much fun to see that people never objective about themselves. Lurker sees the racism by 'muslims' taking over, or Karamba does not see the racism by Africans. Racism and hate are learnt behaviour. It is not in your DNA. It did exist hundreds years ago. It will continue to exist.

One thing to point. Lurker's point about muslims being racist. Of course, they could be equally racist as anyone else. But the difference is, racism is effective when one race has power on others. Muslims are minority in Europe. They do not have any political or economic power. I am not sure Kayjatta/Lurker's concern about 'they are taking over' is valid. Muslims in Europe are victimized more than Muslim victimize non-muslims in Europe. They are economically, politically and socially are not powerfull. Obviously, the story is much different when a white man living in Saudi Arabia or Rhodesia.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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lurker



509 Posts

Posted - 23 Oct 2009 :  14:23:58  Show Profile Send lurker a Private Message
TURK, YOU NEED TO RE-READ WHAT I WROTE, AS I DO NOT EVER REMEMBER SAYING THAT THE MUSLIMS ARE TAKING OVER OR ANY SUCH THING.

YOU ALWAYS DO THIS.
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tamsier



United Kingdom
558 Posts

Posted - 23 Oct 2009 :  15:10:51  Show Profile
I have never said I hate muslims. I have muslims in my family. There is a difference between hating islam and hating muslims. If this Mamluq who call himself a muslim cannot tell the difference between the two, then that is his problem. I have never made any apologies for my hatred of this dangerous cult. This idealogy epitomises everything that is evil since the days of its foundation by the Arabs. It condones mass murder, stealing, rape, slavery, and everything seen as evil. Instead of stupid Africans opening their eyes and seeing what this religion really stands for, they choose to live in cookoo land.

Here is a link to a video about islamic slavery. Something that everyone likes to keep silent but have no problem going on about the Atlantic slave trade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT_RSDeAYjI



'Imagine, sicko Tamsier is a police officer and stop me at a check point and seeing my Turkish Passport?'

Then I will throw you to the lions so they can feed on you. One gone couple of millions to go. The less you people breed the better.



Tamsier

Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.

Roog a fa ha.

Edited by - tamsier on 23 Oct 2009 16:30:25
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 23 Oct 2009 :  22:47:38  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
quote:

"WE ARE GONNA TURN ENGLAND INTO A MUSLIM STATE, INNIT!" QUOTE.



Lurker

You mentioned above....


diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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lurker



509 Posts

Posted - 23 Oct 2009 :  23:58:00  Show Profile Send lurker a Private Message
r u being deliberately obtuse?
that was the mantra of your angry brotherhood on the street.
nothing to do with me or my beliefs.
it is their wish to islamify the uk/earth/world/universe/galaxy.
what is it in this simple observation that you find so hard to understand and manage to misconstrue?

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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 24 Oct 2009 :  00:35:51  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
lurker

No i am not. They may have agenda and wish list, but they do not have social, political and economic power to make a radical change in UK. Me does not think it should be even taken seriously that they will cause a regime change in UK. I think you are making this little bigger deal if you genuinly believe that their aganda is even realistic. Most radicalism is due to their economic status, being marginalized, reaction to discrimination as video demonstrates and international conflicts. I am more concerned on USA attacks on iraq, afghanistan and northern pakistan in order to change their regime than some pakistanis acts in UK.

Most of the muslims are very aggresive are pakistani muslims. There are lots of going on currently, in pakistani/afghani border. There are 800,000 Turkish in UK and you don't see much religious radicalism from them. Muslims in UK were not radicals 30 years ago. Islamic radicalism on the rise and it has co-relationship with international conflicts. When UK/USA were supporting osama bin ladin, your country's hero against communist devil Soviet Union, there was zero issue in UK due to muslims who were same muslim and believin in same quran.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 24 Oct 2009 00:37:51
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 24 Oct 2009 :  12:38:59  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kobo

quote:
Originally posted by tamsier

My hatred of islam has been justified [with facts] on several instances. I refer you to the religious section. This dangerous religion muust be curtailed at whatever cost. It is the religion of the Arabs who do not even respect the life of their own people never mind the life of others. This is instilled in the Quran and practiced by many who believes what they have been told without doing their own research. This is the reason why I believe the muslim fanatics are the greater threat than the BNP.



WHY HATE ISLAM, WHY ISLAM IS DANGEROUS & WHAT ARE THE FACTS PLEASE JUSTIFY & REFER TO THE RELIGIOUS SECTIONS




WHY HATE ISLAM, WHY ISLAM IS DANGEROUS & WHAT ARE THE FACTS PLEASE JUSTIFY & REFER TO THE RELIGIOUS SECTIONS




Still you have not answered my questions and face my challenge yet Please refer US TO THE RELIGIOUS SECTIONS TO BACK YOUR HATRED FOR ISLAMIC DOCTRINES AND PRACTICE You just forwarded a documentary against Islam by its enemies from related Bantaba World Religions topic under http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?whichpage=1&TOPIC_ID=8299#54664

Edited by - kobo on 24 Oct 2009 12:43:59
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tamsier



United Kingdom
558 Posts

Posted - 24 Oct 2009 :  23:31:41  Show Profile
Kobo,

You are either lazy or you didn't understand when I said refer to the religious section... I however suspect the former.

Have a look at the other new posting, I know you are interested in that because you keep flipping from that posting to this one.

Tamsier

Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.

Roog a fa ha.
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 25 Oct 2009 :  00:46:09  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by tamsier

Kobo,

You are either lazy or you didn't understand when I said refer to the religious section... I however suspect the former.

Have a look at the other new posting, I know you are interested in that because you keep flipping from that posting to this one.



Review the relevant topics and refer me to the specific issues so that I can handle any slander, distortion or spreading of lies against one of the greatest or if not the best of all religions ever for mankind ("Yaa bani Adam!") and holy quran.

Please note that; am not offended, angry with you but very sober to enlighten you on this great religion. Don't try to be offensive with personal attacks to divert attention to the details you failed to understand about Islam


Edited by - kobo on 25 Oct 2009 00:47:30
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tamsier



United Kingdom
558 Posts

Posted - 25 Oct 2009 :  08:03:49  Show Profile
Kobo,

Laziness diminishes your ability to achieve. Laziness diminishes your ability to acquire knowledge. Laziness has contributed to the death of many. Laziness is one of the most horrendous human qualities. Always strive to refrain from laziness if you are to succeed in life.

Here are some of the relevant links I promised you:

History section: Influence of religion in Senegambia

http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5545

Religion Section: Islam beyond [background reading]

http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7521&whichpage=1

Religion section: Islam and terrorism [background reading and difference between Islam and Muslim]

http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7711&whichpage=1

Religion section: The distorted history of Muslims

http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7556

Religion section: Valentine [background reading – paganism]

http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7164&whichpage=1

Religion section: The Archbishop [example - it is not always Islam I speak against, contrary to popular believe]

http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6285

Religion section: A DVD

http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4646&whichpage=8

Tamsier

Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.

Roog a fa ha.
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