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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 08 Feb 2007 :  20:30:47  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kiwi

Kondorong,
are you saying that a Jaiteh who says that she is wollof is not wollof and does not know where she comes from?


jaiteh's are fanafan's also . kondo don't monopolise jaitehs for jahankas only .what about suso and mendy .are they mandinkas as well ?i know sanyang is kabunkas who use to like the palm wine ..heey do they still go for it ? some jaitehs are balantas also .

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 08 Feb 2007 :  23:10:00  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by SANTANFARA

quote:
Originally posted by kiwi

Kondorong,
are you saying that a Jaiteh who says that she is wollof is not wollof and does not know where she comes from?


jaiteh's are fanafan's also . kondo don't monopolise jaitehs for jahankas only .what about suso and mendy .are they mandinkas as well ?i know sanyang is kabunkas who use to like the palm wine ..heey do they still go for it ? some jaitehs are balantas also .



Jaitehs are JAHANKAS period. Any Jaiteh in another setting is what the Mandinkas call BANANG.

Typical JAHANKA last names are Jaiteh, Sillah and Jaabi. A typical Jahanka ridicule is:

TIGO KADI, KULUNG TALA, MEKENG TALA, KA MEKU MEKU. In mandinka this will transtlate to : TIYO KADI, KULU TALA, FASA TALA, KA MUWA DORONG.

Janhanka is a dilect of the Manding branch and spoken maily in Bundou somewhere between Massina and the Niger regions of Timbuctu, Segou and Fulladu bordering on the regions with the Berber kingdoms. They are early converst to Islam in west Africa and culturally very seclusive.

In the Gambia, i know of one jaiteh with a PHD who now lives in Holland. Western education is a recent thing they have embraced. I have Jahanka in-laws so i better be quiet.
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Santanfara



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Posted - 09 Feb 2007 :  06:37:13  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
KONDO ,THANKS I REMEMBER THE SAID QUOTE OF THE JAHANKAS. THEY ALSO LIKE OUR GAMBIAN STYLE PORRIGE ,DON'T THEY ? THEY ALSO HAVE A SAYING LIKE NEVER HIT YOUR SPOUSE JUST ROB HER FACE . AM I WRONG ?

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 09 Feb 2007 :  23:23:13  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by SANTANFARA

KONDO ,THANKS I REMEMBER THE SAID QUOTE OF THE JAHANKAS. THEY ALSO LIKE OUR GAMBIAN STYLE PORRIGE ,DON'T THEY ? THEY ALSO HAVE A SAYING LIKE NEVER HIT YOUR SPOUSE JUST ROB HER FACE . AM I WRONG ?



Oh yes. Tell me about it. I have always had this for breakfast for years now.

I am now a Junior JAHANKA
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 12 Feb 2007 :  19:09:34  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
I have just also discovereded that infact a slave factory as they used to be called was actually at Pisania about 20 miles from Georgetown now in ruins. This was where Mungo Park started his journey int0 the interior of Africa in 1795 and then his second journey. This settlement is somewhere in the neighborhood of Karantaba Tenda in the Sami District.

English merchants were stationed in Pisania where slave caravans from the interior supplied slaves which are then transported to the coast to South Carolina mostly. Gambia itself has not witnessed much slavery as one might believe but a transit point for salves from Segu, Timbuctu, Fooladu and hausaland in present day nothern Nigeria.

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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 12 Feb 2007 :  21:45:05  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Kondorong, I am fortune to have travelled to south carolina. I visited a plantation. The slave houses were in the front of the 'big' house. They were proud of their assets and showed them off.
It was a very sad and emotional visit for me. I felt very ashamed of what some white people were capable of doing to some black people.

To make money out of another persons suffering is disgusting, what ever the country, race, colour, culture and year. It still goes on. Many businesses are built from the suffering of workers. In 2007 we should really be supporting ethical businesses.

Where does your food come from and how is it produced?What do those people get paid and how do they live?
Ditto clothes/shoes/handbags/cars etc etc

No one should be in slavery of any kind in 2007.
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 12 Feb 2007 :  23:23:12  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
Real value for work done.
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 12 Feb 2007 :  23:35:58  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
We all need to question our purchases: Is it ethical?
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salimina

253 Posts

Posted - 28 Apr 2007 :  09:04:56  Show Profile Send salimina a Private Message
The oldest settlements in kombo are: Brikama, Busumballa and Sukuta.Do they have anything in common apart from the Mandinka Language?Another old settlement is Sanyany( they where discovered by Busumballa by accident as saying goes). So no one knows whether Sanyany is older than Busumballa.Can someone elaborate on these stories! Very facinating indeed.

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Alhassan

Sweden
813 Posts

Posted - 02 May 2007 :  16:43:30  Show Profile Send Alhassan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by salimina

The oldest settlements in kombo are: Brikama, Busumballa and Sukuta.Do they have anything in common apart from the Mandinka Language?Another old settlement is Sanyany( they where discovered by Busumballa by accident as saying goes). So no one knows whether Sanyany is older than Busumballa.Can someone elaborate on these stories! Very facinating indeed.



Old Yundum is older than BUSI A BALA and many of the towns you mention here. It was the king Ansumana who petitoned the Queen of England when she wanted to exchange the Gambia with another profitable colony.
Mam Buna Bojang was related to Ansumanna of Yundum, how I cannot remember. I think our older Jelis can enlighten us on this topic.
I shall have to ask my seniors at home and then come back to you about these towns and villages.
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salimina

253 Posts

Posted - 02 May 2007 :  16:50:23  Show Profile Send salimina a Private Message
Alhassan,

Old yundum is not older than any of residents i mentioned aboved. Infact old yundum is a periphery of Busumballa. And Ansuman yundum is not a king he is more of a celebrity.

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Alhassan

Sweden
813 Posts

Posted - 03 May 2007 :  09:20:02  Show Profile Send Alhassan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by salimina

Alhassan,

Old yundum is not older than any of residents i mentioned aboved. Infact old yundum is a periphery of Busumballa. And Ansuman yundum is not a king he is more of a celebrity.


salimina,
Old Yundum is a very old and historical. I suggest you consult the people of Busumbala.I might be right, although I do not say you are wrong. There are different narrations.
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salimina

253 Posts

Posted - 04 May 2007 :  00:30:48  Show Profile Send salimina a Private Message
Thanks bro, i dont consultation on that regard.Am close to both if you like!

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Alhassan

Sweden
813 Posts

Posted - 04 May 2007 :  15:46:19  Show Profile Send Alhassan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by salimina

Alhassan,

Old yundum is not older than any of residents i mentioned aboved. Infact old yundum is a periphery of Busumballa. And Ansuman yundum is not a king he is more of a celebrity.


salimina,
My reason of Yundum older than Bussumallah is the fact that when the Bojangs came from Manding, they setteled in specific places that we know today namely
Bojang Sankaranka setteled in Birkama, Yundum and Bakau.
Bojang Tamba setteled in Sukuta and are the people of the late Mambuna Bojang and Fa Fansu Bojang
Bojang Falantango setteled in Manduaar
and Sinkiri Sabo setteled in Jamburr
Birkama, Yundum and Sukuta have been settelements of the kings and chiefs for a long time. When I mention Yundum I mean OldYundum(YUNDUM KOTO) on the costal road from Banjul. The Yundum near Busumballah is not that old. I remembered them very well, the first alkalo was Jerreh Kebba Jatta. Busumballah has not been mentioned as one of the old settelments.
Oral history could be somtimes in different versions, but lead to the same conclusion.

Edited by - Alhassan on 04 May 2007 15:51:48
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salimina

253 Posts

Posted - 04 May 2007 :  23:37:07  Show Profile Send salimina a Private Message
Alhassan,

Thanks for your posting.The points you mentioned can be right. But oldyundum being older than busumballa is inappropiate.Try any one from yumdum, he or she will confirm this. Or try the university of the gambia if my memory serves me well got some informations about this.

Thanks.

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