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kayjatta



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Posted - 19 Feb 2009 :  08:12:16  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
Can you believe it, this guy beheaded his wife in New York We can't even do that to the terrorists ...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,495945,00.html

Edited by - kayjatta on 19 Feb 2009 08:12:46

mansasulu



997 Posts

Posted - 19 Feb 2009 :  14:25:29  Show Profile Send mansasulu a Private Message
I hope the justice system and the media do not treat him like a celebrity. He is a coward and should meet the same fate he served to his wife. If you ask me, he should be beheaded or lined up and shot between the eyes. He confessed to the crime, so this one is a no brainer.

"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)

...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah...
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jammin



Jamaica
149 Posts

Posted - 26 Feb 2009 :  22:44:53  Show Profile Send jammin a Private Message
Can someone please answer this question
Why is it that the woman ALWAYS get the house to live in, while the man have to find new accommodation during separation and divorce proceedings?

@Mansasulu
I do not, nor can I subscribe to, STATE MURDER, as the consequence of a crime. No man has the right to terminate the life of another, nor should any State.

The emasculation of Man continues, and we have a nice word for it. Its called progress.

Like a colossus He doth bestride the Narrow World
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kayjatta



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Posted - 27 Feb 2009 :  08:03:55  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
Good question Jammin! It is largely the gender role of women and the way we structure our society and household. Women invariably take the home and the children (of course except in Saudi Arabia ) because these are traditionally their domain. In divorce proceedings where young children are involved, the woman invariably gets custody barring some major issues that makes her unfit for custody. The man may only get visitation rights. The woman's rights of custody often comes with her need to keep the main family dwelling (the house), usually because of the children. This is often an ideal situation because it could sometimes be far worse than this where the man could lose the home, pay child(ren) support, and pay spousal support too all to the woman. In a situation where children are not involved, it is much simpler and could be done out of the court system. The difficult part is how to sell off the assets and distribute the proceeds.
Didn't you get kicked out before for misbehaving ? Don't you mess with these fair ladies, they are just too powerful. Off limits...

Warning: This is not a legal advice but only a discussion. Kayjatta is not an attorney.

Edited by - kayjatta on 27 Feb 2009 08:07:32
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mansasulu



997 Posts

Posted - 27 Feb 2009 :  16:24:47  Show Profile Send mansasulu a Private Message

Jammin I am sure the family of Asiyah Hassan will have a different opinion to yours.

Kay could a flip scenario be true in cases where the woman makes equal or more money than the husband as far as child or spousal support goes. I mean more and more men are staying home nowadays and taking up roles that traditionally was played by the women. I am very much interested to know if the justice system in the west is progressive enough in applying the same principles.

"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)

...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah...
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turk



USA
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Posted - 27 Feb 2009 :  20:45:02  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
quote:
In divorce proceedings where young children are involved, the woman invariably gets custody barring some major issues that makes her unfit for custody. The man may only get visitation rights. The woman's rights of custody often comes with her need to keep the main family dwelling (the house), usually because of the children.


In the custody issues, there are different principles applied. For example, I had a custody proceedings for my daughter in Gambia, I granted the custody and the second custody proceedings in western law system, again I got the custody. For custody issue, is basic principle is 'best interests of the child'. While there is a bias favoring women, if a men has a good case for the best interests of the children, they would get the custody.


Another principle is shared parenting. the court rules for shared parenting with a proper living arrangement i.e. 5 vs 2 days stay and all the other decision on health, education, cultural development to be taken by both parents. This principles only work with the seperating parents who have business like relationship though. If seperating parents have high conflicted relationship that ain't work because during decision progress conflict arise, that may even have turn to argument in front of children during the handover. In that case shared parenting principle does not work.

To the note. I was impressed with the new child protection and other law proceedings in Gambia, it may not be as good as western ones but it is far superior to the examples to the other underdeveloped countries.

the minister of justice did a good job implementing child protectin act which has modern law principles of the children. good job.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 27 Feb 2009 20:54:33
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kayjatta



2978 Posts

Posted - 27 Feb 2009 :  23:17:25  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by mansasulu


Jammin I am sure the family of Asiyah Hassan will have a different opinion to yours.

Kay could a flip scenario be true in cases where the woman makes equal or more money than the husband as far as child or spousal support goes. I mean more and more men are staying home nowadays and taking up roles that traditionally was played by the women. I am very much interested to know if the justice system in the west is progressive enough in applying the same principles.



Yes, it works in favor of men too sometimes. If you remember Britney Spears and her husband/boyfriend.
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jammin



Jamaica
149 Posts

Posted - 03 Mar 2009 :  08:01:27  Show Profile Send jammin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kayjatta
Didn't you get kicked out before for misbehaving ?


Nope......... never had such an experience, don't believe I ever will.
No, not after being exposed to the Eddie Murphy video Delirious and the concept of Half. Then again, am much too young to get hitched.

Like a colossus He doth bestride the Narrow World

Edited by - jammin on 03 Mar 2009 08:04:06
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kayjatta



2978 Posts

Posted - 03 Mar 2009 :  08:17:17  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
Oh boy, lucky you!
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