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Babylon



Sweden
691 Posts

Posted - 20 Apr 2006 :  18:37:16  Show Profile Send Babylon a Private Message
...and I always thought that Ndow had such a cute, innocent looking face... Now I know why! just kiddin yáll!
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 20 Apr 2006 :  18:43:37  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Kassma you are right. It is a stereo type...but told to me by several Gambians..I am just repeating it.

So in Muslim culture being a virgin isn't important for a women? I think you are wrong........

Of course MUSLIM and AFRICAN culture are two different things.

In most religions purity and faithfulness are valued as they are considered to be desirable for good health.

On a serious note IF faithfulness isnt valued in African culture PERHAPS that is one reason why aids spreads so freely. Promiscuity is not a healthy way to live life.
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 20 Apr 2006 :  18:47:43  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
What I meant was Polygamy institutionalises unfaithfulness. In my eyes if my husband had 3 other wives each time he had sex with one of them he would be unfaithful to me and I would feel it badly. The fact he was 'married' to them would make no difference.

He wouldnt need to have affairs if he had 3 other women......but what about the women just stuck with the one man?!
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Jack



Belgium
384 Posts

Posted - 20 Apr 2006 :  18:49:05  Show Profile Send Jack a Private Message
Kassma,
I think 'virgin' in Wolof is 'jancha' and virginity 'ndaw'
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bamba

Sweden
401 Posts

Posted - 20 Apr 2006 :  18:57:49  Show Profile Send bamba a Private Message
Jede is more than right, that's what it should be. But a girl u say is not a "jancha" can also be said not to be "ndaw". That's why I said there are other words. "Ndow" is pronounced "Ndaw".

Bamba

Edited by - bamba on 20 Apr 2006 19:02:03
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 20 Apr 2006 :  19:04:33  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Jede your knowledge of Wolof is impressive! I am just wondering in what content you learnt those words?!

Wouldnt knowing how to say hello be more useful?
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kassma



334 Posts

Posted - 20 Apr 2006 :  19:12:54  Show Profile Send kassma a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by gambiabev

Kassma you are right. It is a stereo type...but told to me by several Gambians..I am just repeating it.

So in Muslim culture being a virgin isn't important for a women? I think you are wrong........

Of course MUSLIM and AFRICAN culture are two different things.

In most religions purity and faithfulness are valued as they are considered to be desirable for good health.

On a serious note IF faithfulness isnt valued in African culture PERHAPS that is one reason why aids spreads so freely. Promiscuity is not a healthy way to live life.



yes Gambev, Muslim and African culture are two very different things. i'm talking about African culture here and i don't think virginity is a big deal. i think the concept of virginity is another thing in western culture designed to control women. as a Gambian girl, Gambian women talk about personal things in front of me alllll the time. the thing is, in the 9 years i spent in Gambia,and in my time here in america, i just never heard the word "Ndow" or hear something say negative things about a girl having sex before marriage. really i haven't.

Gambev, promiscuity, you have to look at it from a cultural point of view, like you have to do everything else. african men and women are not out there having sex with very one. in fact, if its between the west and Africa, i would say the west has a bigger problem with promiscuity. just because you make a big fuss about faithfullness,which you ultimately don't follow anyways, does not mean anything. faithfulness is valued everywhere, its a character all humans look for. but to say that Africa has an aids problem because of faithlessness, stop yourself. americans, whites get marriaged all the time and they cheat as well too. i will admit though that polygamy has contributed alot to the spread of aids, but i wouldn't say promiscuity.

and then on a serious note, i think when women in the west are promiscious, they are seriously trying to find someone to love them. it is a rare girl in the US that opens her legs to everyone just because she likes to have sex. and that's the really different thing about us African women and Western women. this notion of finding everlasting love or this desperation to find a "man" its just not that serious with us. men are not as idealized in african culture as they are in western culture. as soon as a girl is born here in the west, she starts hearing retarded stories about finding prince charming and everlasting love. so its really not surprising that a lot of my white friends feel like they HAVE TO HAVE a boyfriend. and that's the thing i try to get through to these african boys here in america. i am not white, i'm african. just because you see white girls falling all over their boyfriends, willing to do backflips and everything else to make their boyfriends happy, I'M NOT. they're obsessed with you holding them, kissing them, LOOKING AT THEM, but I'm not, so don't do that. love in african culture and western culture are different. I would say that african women look at their partners more like equals that prince charming on a horse.
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bamba

Sweden
401 Posts

Posted - 20 Apr 2006 :  19:13:04  Show Profile Send bamba a Private Message
Gambiabev, your contacts in Gambia can school u in both mandinka and wolof, two of the main languages in Gambia. They say women and kids are more quicker in picking up languages. What's wrong with that your feminine potential?

Bamba
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kassma



334 Posts

Posted - 20 Apr 2006 :  19:15:03  Show Profile Send kassma a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jede

Kassma,
I think 'virgin' in Wolof is 'jancha' and virginity 'ndaw'



your name, isn't it a nigerian name? i'm just asking, no malice intented
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kassma



334 Posts

Posted - 20 Apr 2006 :  19:17:08  Show Profile Send kassma a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bamba

Gambiabev, your contacts in Gambia can school u in both mandinka and wolof, two of the main languages in Gambia. They say women and kids are more quicker in picking up languages. What's wrong with that your feminine potential?



so there is somewhere in Gambia where you can be taught to write in Wolof? i'm going to take a course in manding this fall, i'm sooo excited.
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Babylon



Sweden
691 Posts

Posted - 20 Apr 2006 :  19:35:30  Show Profile Send Babylon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by gambiabev

Jede your knowledge of Wolof is impressive! I am just wondering in what content you learnt those words?!

Wouldnt knowing how to say hello be more useful?



LOL!
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kassma



334 Posts

Posted - 20 Apr 2006 :  19:39:23  Show Profile Send kassma a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by gambiabev

Jede your knowledge of Wolof is impressive! I am just wondering in what content you learnt those words?!

Wouldnt knowing how to say hello be more useful?



i don't get it, i want to laugh too!
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Jack



Belgium
384 Posts

Posted - 20 Apr 2006 :  19:40:31  Show Profile Send Jack a Private Message
Saying hello in Gambia took you several minutes ...

Asamaleekum, Maleekum Salam,
Nanga deff, Jamarek,
and so on....

We (I ?) toubabs are not used to that. Getting to the point, you know
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 20 Apr 2006 :  19:43:15  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
I am still trying to imagine the practical situation you learnt those words in?!
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Jack



Belgium
384 Posts

Posted - 20 Apr 2006 :  19:43:58  Show Profile Send Jack a Private Message
Kassma,

Me a Nigerian name ??? not at all. see my profile. Ther's no cheating on it. Greetz
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