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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 01 May 2006 :  01:17:55  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
Madiba thanks for reminding us to be together against foriegn aggression, domination, intervention and any threats to national interests no matter what weak leader we have and the bad taste of his speech.

To Ebra, that's fine if Yaya capitalises on the weaknesses of the opposition under free and fair elections we don't need to worry about that because democratic rights have been exercised through the ballot box. However it is absolute nonsense to make certain declarations that he will dictate when to hand over power and will stay until the oil(whether its there?) benefits Gambians, non-Gambians, Africans and all sets of human race; and he realised his vision programmes towards 2020. What a long wait? I always wonder whether Jammeh is the only one capable or cmpetent to decide the destiny or chart the course for Gambians.

Edited by - kobo on 01 May 2006 21:29:44
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Ebra



Gambia
268 Posts

Posted - 01 May 2006 :  03:22:04  Show Profile Send Ebra a Private Message
Kobo I totally agree with you. I never support Yahya,if you check my posting I never commend him for anything because to me, he is a failed/desperate, ugly-ass crazy guy..I hate his way of ruling. My point is that presently the divided opposition can't unseat Yahya. I am on the verge of forming my own party which will constitute the members of this forum. The new face will be emerging in Gambian politics soon. THE BIG CHANGES IS COMING.

Edited by - Ebra on 01 May 2006 03:22:44
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 01 May 2006 :  21:35:00  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
Ebra it is common knowledge that Gambians enjoy mockery in politics and they don't unite to fight their rights together. There is no solidarity and patriotism with us. We talk a lot, eat our "benachin, mbahaal, super kanya and drink our ataaya" and act little. That's it.
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 01 May 2006 :  22:43:06  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
Earlier when Jammeh's speech was released I committed my self that we have wide publicity or circulation to exposed what ***** is at the hem of power in The Republic of The Gambia. This speech is alarming in the sense that there are no sober thoughts on it. It went to the extent of even religious leaders especially Imam Fatty State house mosque was worried. As evidenced the following friday sermons, he attempted to advice Yaya of what steps to follow aftermath of the rally to diffuse the tension. Noteworthy in his speech are; justification for a valid coup and defending to legitimise his actions of July 22, comparison of his government with that of Jawara, threats to the sub-region especially our neighbours Senegal, if there is any foreign intervention how war ready Gambia is, declaration that he won't hand over power until he feels deemed to dictate the time or by God, many challenges to intellectuals and patriots, amongst other tragedic issues. We had mixed messages from his speech but one the most worrying is his endorsement that coups can be executed for development and that it is necessary when certain things are happenning in a country. Every body can do what he did at the time of July 22nd. That's a self-inflicted injury and self-indictment as there are serious mess to tidy up during his rule presently. We have seen some good comments so far trying to make his speech more meaningful or interesting for discussion only as nothing can change the crude way the speech was addressed. I can only conclude that its a disgrace to allow Yaya to continue to stay in power and its left to you (including my humble self) to deal with the situation. Jammeh's speech is a verbal diarhoea and he has exposed himself as very immature to rule this nation plus his misdeeds and crimes committed so far.

The Greek philosopher Zeno once said to a youth who was suirling verbal diarhoea all over his tunic. "The reason we have two ears yet only one mouth is that we listen the more and talk the less."

Edited by - kobo on 02 May 2006 13:23:41
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 01 May 2006 :  23:11:26  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
Many thanks to Moderator and Admin. for editing the five letter word. That jig-saw puzzle game is to figure it out by readers and ponder what political solutions Gambia needs to save the crises situation that is persisting.
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 03 May 2006 :  02:06:57  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
Opinions are flowing on and on as culled from All Africa.com.

Gambia: Mr. President, There Are Lessons to Be Learnt
http://allafrica.com/stories/200605020686.html

Edited by - kobo on 03 May 2006 02:08:05
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 03 May 2006 :  19:44:51  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
In Yaya's speech the open threat to our neighbours, is it based on economic and other strategic reasons or politically motivated as many Casamance rebels take refuge and are harboured by Jammeh which Senegal don't want? Any further comments, I need your help and tell me how war ready Gambia is because declarations are already made to make this tiny country a war zone. Lets not sleep with a time bomb to explode.

QUOTES (from his speech)

"If any country wants peace with the Gambia, we can work together. But if you hate us and our peace, Billaahi Wallaahi Tallaahi I will bury you with salt. There is not a country that we are scared of today, particularly, within our sub-region. There is no country that I am scared. I know why I said so. If any country wants peace you will have peace."

"But everything has a limit, I want you to listen carefully. If you think that the Gambia is small, then you do not know God. I will not disclose what we have but every Gambian should open your eyes."

QUOTE ENDS


Edited by - kobo on 04 May 2006 10:32:34
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 04 May 2006 :  23:10:56  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
Any favours from Jammeh's loyalist to dress down this speech in a much impressive manner? Please help defend or substantiate points stated in his speech.
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 07 May 2006 :  01:42:54  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
The debate is still on "Jammeh's speech". The following have been lifted from the Observer newspaper and herewith attached to this topic as relevant material.

A Lesson Not Learnt In The Past Will Always Be Repeated
Written by Bakary Janko
Saturday, 06 May 2006
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Biran



United Kingdom
10 Posts

Posted - 07 May 2006 :  03:32:14  Show Profile Send Biran a Private Message
You seem to be sitting at one corner of the Bantaba talking by your self Kobo. Don't you see you are alone? I'm just passing by

Edited by - Biran on 07 May 2006 03:34:43
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 07 May 2006 :  07:37:31  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
Thanks Biran. I don't mind that so far I dessimante my ideas and information to provoke reflections and debates on them. Its supposed to be a two-way process and interactive but as far as I could observe on Gambian politics, many postings appears to be interested "chat rooms", gossips, mongering and irresponsible, rather than dealing with issues. I believe I should participate, present any relevant information that may help us withs facts, to represent and clear my conscience of their ignorance and laise faire attitudes and not having any sense of direction to uplift standards for their country.

Edited by - kobo on 07 May 2006 07:41:20
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sab



United Kingdom
912 Posts

Posted - 07 May 2006 :  11:43:13  Show Profile Send sab a Private Message
Greetings Biran, I, and probably many others are reading in the other corner and between the lines, but not posting.
So Biran who is behind him on the 'big seat' and too whom do you think he was referring to in that part of his speech?


When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it - always.. Freedom & peace / sab


The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary)
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 07 May 2006 :  13:04:39  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
I would like to obeserve that "Tribalism" is mentioned for the first time on this topic by Bakary Janko in his article on "A lesson not learn in the past will always be repeated" in an attempt to defend "Jammeh's horrendous speech" and to discredit Faithful Mahoney's "Mr. President, there are lessons to be learnt". Jammeh presented a nasty speech followed by outcries, plea for justice and in an attempt to set the records straight, Faithful Mahoney attempted to refresh and remind him of his obligations, bad trends and signals in this woeful speech; in line with the thinking of many patriotic Gambians who felt absolutely dissapointed of these representations of an unfit leader.

Edited by - kobo on 07 May 2006 15:36:48
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 14 May 2006 :  15:03:17  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
D day at Kombo East by-elections would have been a litmus test on this speech. However opportunism, greed, selfish rather than selfless, power struggle, tribalism, dis-orientation, corruption, lack of solidarity and spirit of patriotism, weak leadership and inept opposition political parties, lack of good strategy, lack of better visions, no common goals, dis-unity, dis-array campaigning, blackmail and manipulation would be seen undermining this election rather than the indicators of where Jammeh is leading Gambians from his speech, as a test of time.

Edited by - kobo on 14 May 2006 20:36:41
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MADIBA



United Kingdom
1275 Posts

Posted - 14 May 2006 :  23:01:42  Show Profile Send MADIBA a Private Message
Folks I think Kobo has a made a good points whcih we need to look closely to able to see the wisdom in them.

Unless the Opposition assumes it full responsibility putting aside greed, potential personal aggrandizement which is likely to follow political assent. The Opposition should know that they are the ultimate solution to our present predicament. The Opposition who many claim are intellectual should put in a structure whcih is personality free or ELSE THEY WILL BE WORSE OFF THAN THAN THE APRC.

Until we have an opposition which is ready to EDUCATE THE MASSES ABOUT THEIR RIGHTS HONESTLY, BUILD A STRUCTURE FOR PROSTERITY, DEMONSTRATE IN DEED AND WORDS THAT ITS A VIABLE OPTION AS A GOV'T IN WAITING,WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THE MASSES AND RESPECT THE MASSES VOICES they will fail and make the lives of the masses more degradable!

madiss
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