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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 23 Sep 2008 : 19:31:35
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There is racism WITHIN Gambia. Racism against other Africans.... Ghanains for example (who are Christian) Nigerians..... etc and so on.
Also racism withing Gambia amongst different tribal groups.(colour of skin, whether settled or nomad etc).
The racism withing a tribal group...servant and master....class distrimination rather than racism I suppose. Mandinkas can tell from surnames whether people historically are higher or lower class. In one village the lower class people live on the opposite side of a main road in much poorer conditions.
Racism according the the depth of colour of the skin..the whiter the skin the 'better'. (Please note my quotes!)
There is also racism (would you call it that?) against Rastas. BIG TIME. One of my friends was held my the police over night for no cause and they cut his hair. What a shocking assault on his human rights.  
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MeMe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 Sep 2008 : 20:46:18
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Bev, Bev, Bev ... don't you know that's just lack of understanding for other cultures, traditions, use of language, etc????    |
It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 10:32:42
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Originally posted by gambiabev
.........Racism according the the depth of colour of the skin..the whiter the skin the 'better'. (Please note my quotes!)
There is also racism (would you call it that?) against Rastas.
Maybe you have not heard of ''Mboyo''.
Secondly i think there is the feeling that non gambians have to remind us that The Gambia is just another country filled with humans with normal human prejudices. For this we thank you although we have never claimed otherwise.
However, this new revelation does not stop us from correcting you for wrongly using the terms discrimination and racism inconsistently.
a mandinka man cannot be racist towards his Jankhanka wife! for the simple reason that they belong to the same race.he can however discriminate against her. A gambian woman who marries for a man because he has money is not being racist again a poorer man. c'on.
Women in The Gambia, like elsewhere in the developing world have a hard role in life and you can blame men for that, but its not racism. neither is ''racism'' towards rastas racism. a girl wearing a short shirt being given a hard time in the street cannot call that racism!
we shouldnt get carried away by trying to butress a point too far. In another topic in the Bantaba, Paedophilia in The Gambia is being discussed. An Adult white male caught doing unacceptable things with a young gambian child cannot be accussed of racism. the crime there is Paedophila not racism. Nothing else!
such 'over-dramatisation' of events is what can lead to the Race Releations Act of 2000 as you have in the UK. this way anybody can call anything racism, creating more problems than solutions. |
Edited by - njucks on 24 Sep 2008 10:40:47 |
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Formby
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 18:25:17
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Yes Njucks, we are all members of the human race with all the incumbent failings and strengths.
As I am a non-Gambian may I enquire what is Jankhanka? I only want to know. I have tried to google but it isn't recognised. |
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serenata
Germany
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Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 19:00:37
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Originally posted by njucks In another topic in the Bantaba, Paedophilia in The Gambia is being discussed. An Adult white male caught doing unacceptable things with a young gambian child cannot be accussed of racism. the crime there is Paedophila not racism. Nothing else!
such 'over-dramatisation' of events is what can lead to the Race Releations Act of 2000 as you have in the UK. this way anybody can call anything racism, creating more problems than solutions.
Njucks, I agree with most of your contribution. The inflationary use of a term doesn't make it more precise. As a German, I like linguistic precision - it is what makes a language rich.
But I think if white tourists travel to Africa, Asia, or South America to rape black or brown children this is not only paederasty (the word paedophilia is misleading; it means 'to love children'), but it has a big fat aspect of racism. |
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Prince
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Posted - 24 Sep 2008 : 19:16:44
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| You're right Njucks, in the Gambian "mboyo/Foncular" season, whiter is better. |
"When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty." |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 25 Sep 2008 : 10:20:13
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Originally posted by Formby
.........As I am a non-Gambian may I enquire what is Jankhanka?
hmmm. they are very close 'cousins' of mandinkas (an ethnic group in the gambia). perhpas i can say it like this - a german and a swiss german or spanish/portugese seems like a good european anology.
they can understand each other linguistically.depending on who you talk, to one will claim the other has a dialect. |
Edited by - njucks on 25 Sep 2008 10:24:56 |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 25 Sep 2008 : 10:38:27
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Originally posted by Formby
Yes Njucks, we are all members of the human race with all the incumbent failings and strengths.
As I am a non-Gambian may I enquire what is Jankhanka? I only want to know. I have tried to google but it isn't recognised.
Formby, this site may help. Thanks.
http://kcm.co.kr/bethany_eng/p_code4/2202.html |
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Formby
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Sep 2008 : 16:26:55
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| Thanks for the info Njucks and Kayjatta. Yes I get it. |
Edited by - Formby on 25 Sep 2008 16:56:46 |
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Eve
Gambia
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Posted - 25 Sep 2008 : 21:55:56
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| i never knew what rascism was until i came to europe |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 26 Sep 2008 : 08:20:41
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| Eve that it a very simple, but excellent posting. Many of my Gambian friends have no idea of the extent of racism in europe. It is shameful. |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 26 Sep 2008 : 08:56:41
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bev.
If eve was african herself what is the chance of her facing racism in gambia - I am assuming she came to europe from gambia) |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 26 Sep 2008 : 10:35:17
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Originally posted by Eve
i never knew what rascism was until i came to europe
Eve, i think you have spoken for the entire gambian population. very lightly. personally the nearest i came to it, before going to europe, was in movies like Kunta Kinteh (Roots),on Malcom X, Martin Luther King.i had even seen Guess who is coming to Dinner and Gone with the Wind but i didnt understand the racism potrayed in them. Even WWII movies i saw were just about war to me. perhaps i was young as well.
i understood slavery very well partly becuase it was taught at school but i must admit i never understood racism till i went to Europe.
when i came back to the gambia and saw how some gambians treat toubabs, i used to think '' if only they knew''. but our innocence in fact was just raw genuine friendliness that you will also find in Europe.
personally i have been very lucky and have never experience racism directly except on one occasion where believe i was singled out because i was the only African around. but i dont really take it strongly. it could have happened even in Africa.
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Babylon
Sweden
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Posted - 27 Sep 2008 : 16:33:53
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I haven´t read all the posts in this thread but I must say that I am so sick and tired of white people who talk about how bad they have been treated by Gambians and claim they are victims of racism. Come on... The only racists in Gambia are obviously you yourselves. you have the guts to come here and complain how bad things are in Gambia and how bad you´ve been treated by africans. You just can´t handle it that some africans don´t like you, So what if they don´t? So what if there are some people who hate you? It is only human that not all people on earth love you.
Please get over yourselves and you superior attitudes!
And no, I am not an angry black man, just a furious white woman! ;-) |
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snuggels
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Posted - 28 Sep 2008 : 15:49:48
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So let’s look at your analysis of thing
haven’t read all the posts in this thread but I must say that I am so sick and tired of white people who talk about how bad they have been treated by Gambians and claim they are victims of racism. SO ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE LIE'ERS Come on... The only racists in Gambia are obviously you yourselves. THERE ARE NO RACIST GAMBIANS you have the guts to come here and complain how bad things are in Gambia and how bad you’ve been treated by Africans. You just can’t handle it that some Africans don’t like you, so what if they don’t? YES AGREE BUT THAT’S THE WORLD OVER So what if there are some people who hate you? It is only human that not all people on earth love you.
So according to some would have you believe in Gambia there’s No crime No racism No child abuse So you get over it cos the reality is IT HAPPENS and sometimes the truth hurts
The only way to change or improve things is to highlight it and discussion
And this is what this forum is about
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