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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  13:01:26  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
tamsier. Thanks for the suggestion. I will contact the consulate. The reason I am kind of open this topic and ask some government contact, because I will be in Gambia soon. So I can have opportunity to discuss the possible project with a government official. If I can get the contact before, I can save some time with the progress as I am in Gambian for only short time.


diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 30 Jul 2008 13:12:41
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Momodou



Denmark
11828 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  13:12:06  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
Meme, thanks for the clarification. I was carried by your statement that a fellow members posting has comfirmed to you that this site is “anti-white/women/non-muslim”.

A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone
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MeMe



United Kingdom
541 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  13:25:59  Show Profile Send MeMe a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by tamsier
[avoid being condescending/arrogant -, that is a big turn off.



You rock!

It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna
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MADIBA



United Kingdom
1275 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  13:30:53  Show Profile Send MADIBA a Private Message
Internet business is still in its infancy in The Gambia. There is a limited number of world class IT professional. These few are not found in gov't but in the private sector. There are many reasons for that. One of these reasons is the low pay compared to the private sector. I maybe wrong but i think the statehouse website is one of those 'Gift websites' by local entreprenuers or ISPs. A website goes way beyond a collection of webpages. Other important factors such SECURITY are overrriding. Security is paramount when it comes to e-biz. Where gov't processes documents and transactions are carried out, one needs real pros to do the job.

madiss
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tamsier



United Kingdom
558 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  13:43:14  Show Profile
Madis

You are absolutely right about 'security issues'. That's why Turk should not be making phone calls after phone calls, they would not even listen to him. You have to be very experience in this field, and if successful for the bid, then you can discuss security issues [face to face].

Tamsier

Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.

Roog a fa ha.
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  15:06:42  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
I have great deal of experience in this field. All these security issues are very valid, of course the government of gambia must put focus on the security. Again, I am offering my expertise but again, the government of gambia needs to involve and take the charge. The possible volunteers from this site would have consultant role to initiate the project. But the ownership belongs to the gambain government.


I am not going to be working full time. Maybe an hour a day, or a few hours a week to help them to be on the right track. There are many decisions to make. Such as windows or linux server, what kind of web server, app server, database, what is the skill set of the stuff. What kind of hardware you would buy etc...


The web is like a baby. You start small and grow/maintain the child. The document process and transaction is kinda long term objective. First Gambia should start with static web sites. Only providing information no transaction. When mature, they can start interactive elements, such as getting information based on query and further document processing for example submiting document or processing fee etc. Again, it takes time to have a full-scale web site. Possible steps.

1. Learning to host the web site/application on the computer own by government behind the firewall. Not on the host company.

2. Publish informational web sites.

3. Interactive Websites. Email Server.

4. Intranet for government employees.

5. Transactional web site.



diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 30 Jul 2008 15:15:24
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toubab1020



12314 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  16:11:03  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Turk, I am sorry that I did not take your initial posting seriously,I wish that you had made yourself much clearer as you have in this posting,I understand your frustration in reading what has been posted in this topic,to some extent you are responsible for not making your intentions clear at the outset,I certainly was misled.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  16:52:58  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
yeah blame the turkish man.....

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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toubab1020



12314 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  17:30:32  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Thanks for accepting my apology with such good grace.We all know Turkey can do no wrong

"The Englishman"

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 30 Jul 2008 17:32:03
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Momodou



Denmark
11828 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  17:31:40  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
Turk, I think there is something in the pipeline. I heard about eGambia and searched for it and got http://www.egambia.gm/

May be you could meet the folks at Quantumnet when you visit Gambia. It is a company owned and run by very competent Gambians. http://www.qanet.gm/company/company.html

A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  17:50:58  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
10x momodou. I know qanet.gm. I was there once to register some course for one of my gambian relative. If there is some initiative, and human capital for such initiatve that is great for Gambia. My services may not be necessary.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  17:55:20  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
However, egambia.gm does not say if it is government site. It may be a commercial site.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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shaka



996 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  20:19:32  Show Profile Send shaka a Private Message
Meme is right, Turk has a knack of expressing blatant prejudice against Gambia and Gambians in this forum. This topic is just one of many. However it is hypocritical of Meme to beat around the bush insteading of speaking your mind. Not every Gambian have the time to dignify every prejudicial comment by replying to them. To presume that Gambians are prejudiced to other people apart from Turk by chosing to ignore his prejudice taunts is downright ignorant.
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  20:49:52  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
I have no prejudice against nobody. Making critism is not prejudice. I would appreciate if you support your allegation with an examples, quotes from my posts. Let me know, show my my predudice so I can correct it. Help me shaka. However, you don't have the capacity or you can support your statement with examples, i will understand.

And what is this character assasination in this forum. People may have different opinions and heated exchanges but why do people get personal.


diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 31 Jul 2008 12:38:58
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MeMe



United Kingdom
541 Posts

Posted - 31 Jul 2008 :  11:46:55  Show Profile Send MeMe a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by shaka

Meme is right, Turk has a knack of expressing blatant prejudice against Gambia and Gambians in this forum. This topic is just one of many. However it is hypocritical of Meme to beat around the bush insteading of speaking your mind. Not every Gambian have the time to dignify every prejudicial comment by replying to them. To presume that Gambians are prejudiced to other people apart from Turk by chosing to ignore his prejudice taunts is downright ignorant.



I hear you, Shaka, however as long ago as 2006, I posted an announcement on this same Bantaba that I would never again directly reply to any posting by Turk - I also listed the reasons why (though not really necessary if you've read his postings! ).

It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna

Edited by - MeMe on 31 Jul 2008 14:46:07
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