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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 29 Jul 2008 :  18:52:36  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
quote:
I really need someone got me a contact. I call mr. jammeh but his office told me he is busy at the moment.


lol. I am shocked someone actually take calling mr.jammeh seriously and reply.

I have not only called 'mr.jammeh', i have talked to him, I said 'yo jammah, let's jammin, yo site suk big time let me give u hand, but don't tell meme as she is suffering from paranoia that every gambians hates her, obviosly she is thinking that she is somewhat importante....'


diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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toubab1020



12312 Posts

Posted - 29 Jul 2008 :  19:01:34  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message

Yes How come MeMe will the usual bunch post now ?
As you said in your posting

"But what I find even funnier is the lack of response from the usual folk decrying how the 'west' shouldn't be getting involved in internal Gambian(read African)affairs, how colonialism is over,blah, blah, blah .... how come

Maybe they are on holiday or at a meeting or conference or something its so quiet here people just chatting.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 29 Jul 2008 19:03:57
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 29 Jul 2008 :  20:06:51  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
2bab

Someone is offering the volunteering. And meme, as usual, contribute the negativity. And she says 'not personal attack'. Lol. :) Maybe, she, indeed, deserves not being welcome by Gambians with this attitude. Or one possible scenario, she is just paranoid.


diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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toubab1020



12312 Posts

Posted - 29 Jul 2008 :  20:25:00  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Come on Turk,be fair,normal people who do not hold extreme blinkered viewpoints are welcomed here on Bantaba. I am certain that you agree with that,MeMe did point out that her words were not to be taken wrongly.You and I remember posters on bantaba who were extremly rude and personal to other posters ,maybe because they think that this bantaba is only for born Gambians and not those who love Gambia and its people,now that I call negative and paranoid.
I sometimes forget that bantaba is part of Momodou's home page,it has a great many international guests as well as born Gambians and all of us should be happy that we are allowed here to post anything we like (within reason of course)and get replies to topics that we have posted from others who love Gambia and its people.
I would be VERY surprised if bantaba was not looked at often by Gambia government people.



"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 29 Jul 2008 20:29:17
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 29 Jul 2008 :  20:42:53  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
anyway. I would appreciate if reply are 'related' to the topic. Not anything else. When I open this subject, I expected people contribute something for this idea. some like madiba, belgo and tamsier contribute something significant. Anyway, let us back to topic.

As I told you the government of Gambia would be in charge for such site as they are the one who is going to create the content and administration. I am interested in providing technical and professional assistance on volunteer base. Others are welcome.





diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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Eve



Gambia
344 Posts

Posted - 29 Jul 2008 :  21:40:36  Show Profile Send Eve a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by turk

this site is perfect example of how 10 years old child can do better site. No, maybe 7 years old. What is that, is this some kinf of joke on this age? Oh, by the way, prime minister of Canada, Jean Joseph Jacques Chrétien - Canada retired for how long?



Ahahaha funny Turk

gambian
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MADIBA



United Kingdom
1275 Posts

Posted - 29 Jul 2008 :  23:50:17  Show Profile Send MADIBA a Private Message
Meme as usual you went the wrong way again.

What i and like-minded people condemn is the pomposity that people like you want to shove down our throats as if you are endowed with the best faculties and have the god-damned right to trace the path for us to follow.

Turk like many friends of the Gambia act rather that run their mouths like loose canons.

madiss
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jammin



Jamaica
149 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  03:23:37  Show Profile Send jammin a Private Message
The above is definitely a slap in the face.
Dem fighting words. injun talk

Like a colossus He doth bestride the Narrow World

Edited by - jammin on 30 Jul 2008 03:26:07
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MeMe



United Kingdom
541 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  11:01:54  Show Profile Send MeMe a Private Message
Thanks, Guys!

You've just answered my question and confirmed to me that this is an anti-white/women/non-muslim site - not sure why Turk is tolerated though as surprise, surprise people he isn't black!! Doh, forgot, he's muslim ...... he's male ..... well, two out of three.

If we're talking "pomposity", Mads, then you and Turk own it! At least I got a laugh today so thanks and keep up the good work


It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna
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kiwi

Sweden
662 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  11:50:33  Show Profile Send kiwi a Private Message
You got the order of rank spot-on. I join in the laugh.

kiwi
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Momodou



Denmark
11738 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  12:15:08  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by MeMe

OK, firstly, this is not a personal attack on Turk so please don't try to turn it that way .....

But what I find even funnier is the lack of response from the usual folk decrying how the 'west' shouldn't be getting involved in internal Gambian(read African)affairs, how colonialism is over,blah, blah, blah .... how come

I've been tempted many a time to comment on the sometimes shockingly poor quality of writing to be found in the Daily Observer and other Gambian newspapers. Spelling mistakes, poor grammar and primary school-level reporting definitely jar but I could guarantee you that there would be a huge outcry and lots of 'how very dare you's' if I did. Is it coz I isn't muslim (in the style of Ali G here )???? Do tell!

But Meme, What kind of reply did you expect when you wrote these lines above?

My opinion is that you could have started a new topic, for example about “the poor quality writing in Gambian Newspapers” or “folks decrying the involvement in Africa” instead of going off topic.

By the way this site is not anti anti-white, anti women or anti non-muslim. We expect people to use the Bantaba for enlightenment and sharing through discussions.
You have to agree to disagree with people of dissenting views and move on.

A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone
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MeMe



United Kingdom
541 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  12:50:48  Show Profile Send MeMe a Private Message
Dear Momodou

Many thanks for your reply. Of course the Bantaba is a discussion forum and of course we can't/don't need to all agree all the time but I'm unsure why you left the pertinent part of my original posting out?

In the past, people have been slated on this site for offering suggestions on how to 'better'and/or to criticise and/or to comment on certain things in the Gambia/other African nations. 9 times out of 10 this leads to a discussion on how these countries are no longer 'colonised'/'ruled' by western conventions/whatever and that those who don't live there/were born there/are of African decent shouldn't stick their oar in. Yet, as I stated in my post, here was someone suggesting that there was nobody in the Gambia capable of providing a 'proper' government website and nobody turns a hair! I found this strange and so asked the question why?

As for the perception of going off topic, I was trying to draw a parallel between one person's take on the level of IT/web design capability on offer in the Gambia and my own thoughts on the state of Gambian journalistic writing. In other words, I wouldn't feel comfortable putting it on this forum because I wouldn't presume to judge or suggest that I knew better! And imagine the response if I did place this?! I'm almost certain it wouldn't be the same as those who posted on this thread!

Regards
Jackie aka MeMe

It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna
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tamsier



United Kingdom
557 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  12:51:12  Show Profile
ORIGINALLY POSTED BY MEME

Thanks, Guys!

You've just answered my question and confirmed to me that this is an anti-white/women/non-muslim site - not sure why Turk is tolerated though as surprise, surprise people he isn't black!! Doh, forgot, he's muslim ...... he's male ..... well, two out of three.


I hope not.

Turk

I dont know whether this is a joke or not. If it is, ha!ha!ha! very funny.
If on the other hand you are serious, I dont think phone calls will get you anywhere. I recommend a detailed letter with your experience in this field then perhaps followed by a telephone call and then a personal visit. If you know someone in London who you believe has the knowledge, skills and understanding of what you are trying to do, I would suggest you ask them to act on your behalf. They should contact the Gambian Embassy in London - ; The Deputy High Commissioner - Mr Yusupha Bojang - and seek an audience with him. He is a lovely man, and I am sure he will listen to your concerns with interest. Otherwise, seek an audience with his Australian counterpart. As you do not live in the Gambia, this should be your first route. I advice that you prepare professional looking diagrams to demonstrate the best features of your proposal and how it would enhance the one already in place. Attach some samples [not all] with your initial letter and take a folder if granted an audience. Ensure you state that you are willing to do it for free - and dont forget to mention your love and passion for the Gambia, but avoid being condescending/arrogant -, that is a big turn off. If all else fails, please dont beat yourself about it, at least you've tried.

Good luck.

Tamsier

Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.

Roog a fa ha.
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  12:53:38  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Paranoiac? Meme. Really. I mean why should anyone react negatively what I say about the Gambian Government website. That is a fact. Everyone knows it. Gambians government website suck big time. It needs immense improvement. Your charge that people in general hare racist, sexist have no grounds. There are sexists and racists everywhere, but which community does not have. To me, your charge is more harmful as you are generalizing.

In my opinion, there are racists and sexists everywhere. Even, in Turkish, Muslim and men population, possibly, rarely, may have a few sexists and racist people, imagine. :-) lol.

Your charge of 'site is anti-white, anti-women, anti-non-muslim is very unfair. I have not seen any evidence that bantaba site promoting these racism and sexism and religious discrimination.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 30 Jul 2008 :  12:57:48  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
quote:
there was nobody in the Gambia capable of providing a 'proper' government website


Shame on you meme, twisting what i say. And, by the way, thanks for hijacking the topic.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 30 Jul 2008 12:58:30
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