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Santanfara
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 Posted - 16 Jan 2008 : 22:25:33
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| i must admit we have great teachers here in this bantaba. shaka that was a mervelous piece. i have to aggree with moe on that. the comparative analysis is powerful,brother jere jef .madiba also made a very good comment. this is what the youngsters should emulate. i can atest to the fact that a lot young gambians in europe read the bantaba ,when we get angry ,lest remember them and be polite .the words we type make a lasting impression on readers. we can aggree to disaggree. i have some informations about yahya that i will not post here for any reason. some one may get locked up. his personal financial dealinsg are not straight. his income level is such that ,that man will never get poor in a 100 years. i spoke to a man who use to manage a business for him. we need to think the gambia. our gambia is greater than yahya and his inner circle. development is in many forms .i wish for sustainble development. readers can view development from different angles. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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shaka
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Posted - 17 Jan 2008 : 00:58:16
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| Thanks folks! I could have done better with some editing but i was too knackered towards the end. I don't think it is in the right subject area either. Blame it on Moe for stimulating my mind with his brilliant piece. Moe i undrestand where you were drifting to when you mentioned lunch and dinner time in Dakar.The trick to beat these meal times is snacks in between meals. It took me some time to figure this one out. Madis you are so right, what patriotic technocrats in his right mind would want to work for those international crooks. They are only driven by profit and right now there priority is to payoff their loan obligations. This they will do within a short time by hiking prices beyond the reach of the average Gambian. I think they have already put off an American telecom operator last week with their outrageous demands. Thats a cheap calling facility for Gambians in the US to get in touch with Gambia taken away from them. This just the begining. Mind you Madis they would not want to keep senior Gambian managers among their ranks, would they? That would mean their secrets and dirty dealings in jeapardy. You wait until the money laundering and other international crimes kicks in. So Tarik Musa the expert international money launderer is back? Only in Jammeh's Gambia!!! |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 17 Jan 2008 : 03:32:37
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It is estimated that over 500 thousand if am right with my figures live in the diaspora.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 17 Jan 2008 : 12:18:52
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Originally posted by shaka
Thanks folks! I could have done better with some editing but i was too knackered towards the end. I don't think it is in the right subject area either. Blame it on Moe for stimulating my mind with his brilliant piece. Moe i undrestand where you were drifting to when you mentioned lunch and dinner time in Dakar.The trick to beat these meal times is snacks in between meals. It took me some time to figure this one out. Madis you are so right, what patriotic technocrats in his right mind would want to work for those international crooks. They are only driven by profit and right now there priority is to payoff their loan obligations. This they will do within a short time by hiking prices beyond the reach of the average Gambian. I think they have already put off an American telecom operator last week with their outrageous demands. Thats a cheap calling facility for Gambians in the US to get in touch with Gambia taken away from them. This just the begining. Mind you Madis they would not want to keep senior Gambian managers among their ranks, would they? That would mean their secrets and dirty dealings in jeapardy. You wait until the money laundering and other international crimes kicks in. So Tarik Musa the expert international money launderer is back? Only in Jammeh's Gambia!!!
Have a look at my previous posting under the topic "no more free calls" and you will read there what one young energetic Gambian has been doing,if one boy can do this then I am certain that others can.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Sibo
Denmark
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Posted - 17 Jan 2008 : 15:37:51
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I believe that everybody want to stay in their homeland and help develope the country, but when yoy are suppressed in your own country and have no oppotunity of developing yourself, your skills or your country, why not look for another country where all these is possible. Gambians do not leave Gambia out of pleasure, we leave because we do not have a choice.I personally would love to live in Gambia if I have the same oppotunity that I have in Denmark right now, but the oppotunity is just not there.... |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jan 2008 : 20:52:49
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The fact of matters in Gambia under a rule of terror is beyond any citizen's desire in looking for greener pastures elsewhere. It is an issue of running for life. Because the regime in Gambia came through a criminal route to political power crime is legitimized by the very state custodian of rules. Such a state will never change. One good reason for the regime to perpetrate injustice and crime is because that is the flesh and blood of the regime. Crime has just been cultivated from start and can only mature not to decline. To correct the situation in Gambia the criminals must give way to justice. Now there is no atmosphere of justice. The best of legal minds are unable to deliver judicious sense in such infected atmosphere.
No, Bev some Gambians would not choose staying away if all was free, fair, and safe.
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shaka
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Posted - 17 Jan 2008 : 21:29:21
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| Good one Toubab1020. That young man should indeed be encouraged!! It would would have been even better if it is available at the privacy of your own house instead of and internet café. But then again how many Gambians can afford a computer let alone sustain a monthly internet service bill not mention electricity(if it is ever available). You might as well be prepared for the potential for Gamtel to go bankrupt if this happens on a larger scale or they imposing a license for this service in which case the cost of making such a call will be out of reach to the average Gambian. How about the case of Gambian in the US wanting to to make a phone call to the Gambia, is there any consideration for his or her convinience? Be informed also that this service is very unreliable, chances of getting a connection to the other side is sometimes as good as winning the lottery and if you do there is a likelihood that your converstaion will be cut off every two minutes or so. Simply inconvinient. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jan 2008 : 22:38:46
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My only quarrel with Jammeh and his APRC, is largely governance in terms of (human right abuse, un explained deaths, the unspecified term limit, press freedom ect). On the development front like roads and others infratsructure, education it is kudos.
Peace.
Which is more important and why? I like your reasoning ability. But please help me here. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jan 2008 : 23:20:00
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Konds long time! Hows Yero Bawol? The heat must be overwhelming or are the harmattan winds already there.
Konds to me, Governance is more important. What am against is denial. How can one see the moon and say its the sun? Jammeh, the Mandinka's say no-matter how you despise a dog, acknowledge the fact that its teeth are white. Anything sort of that is pure bigotry. Jammeh and his APRC gave us a lot of roads, schools(the infrastructure), Hospitals and health posts(infrastructure+trained human resources), University , TV(though much like a propaganda tool for the APRC).
If i had my way Jammeh would be chanllenged to restore good goverance and proper rule of law. NO arbitarry arrests, no detention without trial, full investigation into the deaths of Koro Ceesay, Lawyer Sillah attempted murder, Deyda Hydara's murder, April 2000 victims, Indepedent arson attack, Chief Manneh's dissappearance, the immigrants massacre etc.
I am of the conviction that if the opposition has put their house in order Jammeh would have been defeated. I am saying this out of an open mind. I think overstaying in power leads to disaster. Jammeh alone is not the problem. Our mentality is a bigger hurdle. Putting personal interests aside for national interests is proving difficult for some of us. What is stopping Gambians who want change of gov't agreeing on my one leadership like Senegal did in 2000 to get rid of Diouf and his PS?
Jammeh is enjoying his legitimacy becaus eof an inept opposition. Jammeh should understand that not all that are yearning for a change are envious of him. No, i personally see Gambia , her good before anything else.
Inspite of the fact that Jammeh and his APRC haave fallen short of our expectations, i am not a party to any violent change or a mis-information or smear campaign to get rid of him and his APRC. I believe in FAIR PLAY and the TRUTH.
The wise one i hope i have made myself little self clear.
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MADIBA
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toubab1020
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jan 2008 : 18:23:34
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| toubab, you are right .many powerful people read bantaba. that story is not new .lets hope this time round it really materialise. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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kondorong
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Posted - 18 Jan 2008 : 22:31:22
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Originally posted by Santanfara
toubab, you are right .many powerful people read bantaba. that story is not new .lets hope this time round it really materialise.
Which powerful people read the Bantaba? I am lost. Can you give examples please |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jan 2008 : 22:36:13
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Madiba
I like your posting. Its well rounded and after reading, i just dont now what to do next. It provides both sides of the coin. Well it looks like there is no free lunch. To have development, it requires weeding out others.
Its like the mandinka saying : "kuno sing naa dangpang" Which means the legs of a bird or its wings which is more important to the bird is a matter of controversy.
Yoro bawol is suffering from the hammartan winds, dry cold and very hostile. Can you send us some vaseline grease for the cracked lips and foot.
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“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Jan 2008 : 09:16:11
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If powerful people read this, now they have seen my picture perhaps I won't be allowed into the country!   |
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