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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 01 Jan 2008 :  00:48:25  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message

Bread Man

Before Jammeh there was a well preferred set of manners designed for that position. For him to twist around with another set of very different and unacceptable array of manners is where the conflict strikes. Then the job is not for him and his likes.

Karamba
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Dembish



Gambia
284 Posts

Posted - 02 Jan 2008 :  01:22:10  Show Profile Send Dembish a Private Message
Breadman happy New to you,

But can you justify to us on what ground should jammeh declare a public holiday just to name his son.If so then every single day should be a public holiday in Gambia because you know it or not a gambian is naming his /her son daily and jammeh's son is after all not better than any one else's son, to add insult, He was not even born in the Gambia like me or probably you.

There is no egg without a chicken, and no chicken without egg.
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 02 Jan 2008 :  02:11:12  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message

Dembish

You brought up a very serious point of important public concern. There is already a query concerning if Yaya Jammeh is in fact born in Gambia. The way he treats Gambians is giving people more cause to question that more now than ever. He refused to have two of his children deliver on Gambian soil where he continues to suck our sweat to create personal wealth. His wife is not Gambian (though not very material.) To design having his children not delivering on Gambian soil is quite an evidence to show how less Jammeh cares about us and our dear nation. Now turning around to lavish our value generating working time and money to throw a party naming his son is the biggest insult to every Gambian family. You are quite right. The little boy not born in Gambia by design does not deserve so much lavish exploitation of our limited national resources. This is not just an insult but also a crime against citizens. For two occasions Yaya Jammeh has shown Gambians his true hatred for the nation and her good people. Beyond all political cajole it is time for Gambians to pay self respect and open our clear eyes to see and to act.

Karamba
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ebou4th



USA
106 Posts

Posted - 02 Jan 2008 :  14:05:51  Show Profile Send ebou4th a Private Message
I wonder where Sister Omega stands on this topic; I cannot understand how people can see the truth and choose to spin it. Some of the things that happen under the current administration are totally inconceivable.
A Mansa mentality at this day in age is both ignorant and backwards. I might be out of touch for asking this question: Do we have technocrats who serve as honest advisers?

“Revolutions are brought about by men, by men who think as men of action and act as men of thought.”

Kwame Nkrumah

Edited by - ebou4th on 02 Jan 2008 14:23:53
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Alhassan

Sweden
813 Posts

Posted - 02 Jan 2008 :  14:21:00  Show Profile Send Alhassan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ebou4th

I wonder where Sister Omega is on this topic


ebou4th,
There is no way she can justify this public holiday. The same thing happened when the APRC party was celiberating their victory of the presidential elections. The APRC is not the government of the Gambia to give public holidays, it is just a ruling party. The ruling party is in turn different from the GG.Therefore Sister I think you have to agree with us on this topic. What is your opinion on the topic?
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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
2085 Posts

Posted - 02 Jan 2008 :  23:14:38  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
The Naming Ceremony of Mohammad was on New Years Eve a day when most countries in the world take time out to reflect on the old year and to bring in the New. Therefore International, National, local trade closed early apart from Retail and Leisure no doubt the same thing happened in Gambia. I bet the tailors were making a roaring trade.

So to recap on last weekend Friday,(28 Dec), Saturday,(29 Dec) Sunday,(30 Dec) Monday (31 Dec)and Tuesday (1 Jan) was a holiday period. Beside it is Gambia tradition to attend naming ceremonies not by force but by choice. So those Gambians who had their businesses open on New Years Eve were still free to trade. So what's the problem even Jammeh goes to Naming Ceremonies? After all it's Gambian tradition, and so is seeing in the New Year winding down from work on New Years Eve and having fun bringing in the New Year.

Peace Sister Omega



Peace
Sister Omega

Edited by - Sister Omega on 02 Jan 2008 23:17:36
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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 03 Jan 2008 :  03:01:21  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
This is when i tend to totally agree with you. I doubt if this was carried by any paper in the Gambia. I don't live in Gambia and i didn't have to work New years eve. I found the thread to be very lame and lacks basis, The question should be is it right for jammeh to declare two holidays for all the holidays of the year whether he had a child or not ?. It seems to me either way it was already going to be a holiday .............peace

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....

Edited by - Moe on 03 Jan 2008 03:17:36
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ebou4th



USA
106 Posts

Posted - 03 Jan 2008 :  03:45:07  Show Profile Send ebou4th a Private Message
Sister, you must be missing something. The purpose of declaring new year's eve a national holiday was to celebrate the birth of the President's child. This was the purpose of the public holiday. Do you think that is good governance? To declare a public holiday for the purpose of celebrating a child's birth cannot be justified.

http://www.thegambiajournal.com/artman/publish/article_1578.shtml

“Revolutions are brought about by men, by men who think as men of action and act as men of thought.”

Kwame Nkrumah
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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 03 Jan 2008 :  04:22:21  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
Ebou 4th , I think we have to wait till next year to see if he is gonna say lets celebrate baby muhammed's birthday and declare it as public holiday again. It was coincidental and am pretty sure it was initiated as a gesture after already knowing it was gonna be a holiday anyways...................Peace

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....

Edited by - Moe on 03 Jan 2008 04:23:05
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Dalton1



3485 Posts

Posted - 03 Jan 2008 :  04:34:05  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
Big Moe,

Good seeing your threads back.

Join the tele-conference on sunday jan 6th 2007.

This holiday in my opinion is truly un-called for. There is no stipulation on Gambia's constitution that says the president has any right to create a holiday, moreso, purposely for his blood child. I scanned through Gambia's constitution on the powers of the president, but to my utter dismay, there isn't anything on there that called for such.

Secondly, the economic impact is a mesh. That's it straight to the point without any bends.

Dalton

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 03 Jan 2008 :  04:41:30  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
Good to see ya stayed around too, The fact is it really is not an economic mess since am pretty sure people had time to spend their money and do all their shopping for the New years celebration. Not everyone went to the grand palace for the naming ceremony. When you elect a Jola president what other choice but to Baal puser whenever possible............Peace

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....
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Dalton1



3485 Posts

Posted - 03 Jan 2008 :  04:53:14  Show Profile  Visit Dalton1's Homepage Send Dalton1 a Private Message
quote:
When you elect a Jola president what other choice but to Baal puser whenever possible............Peace


bal puser and catch cold.......hehe! funny that one.

Jokes aside, the holiday was purposely for the naming of Jammeh's baby. The caliber of a president should have shown a better example. The D5000.00 adv boards alone were displayed everywhere, not stopping at the Tv and radio announcements. It was Jammeh who alocated the day as a holiday. It is utter shame & nonsense from Jammeh to have once again proved his desire for clinging onto power like a hookeworm, sadly to say.

But all of you should join the conference on Jan 6th.

Dalton

"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Alhassan

Sweden
813 Posts

Posted - 03 Jan 2008 :  08:39:19  Show Profile Send Alhassan a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Moe

Ebou 4th , I think we have to wait till next year to see if he is gonna say lets celebrate baby muhammed's birthday and declare it as public holiday again. It was coincidental and am pretty sure it was initiated as a gesture after already knowing it was gonna be a holiday anyways...................Peace

Moe,
Thanks for the reminder. I forgot myself that 31 Dec. is usually a public holiday at home.
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 03 Jan 2008 :  14:47:22  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message

The Big Issue is that Yaya Jammeh has no reason to kill the babies of other parents and wanting the whole population to observe the birth of his boy child. Forget about the holidays bit of it. The issue is about killing several children and now imposing a celebration to observe one child's birth. By account of reasonable observers little boy Jammeh is no better than all other children especially those born in Gambia, their parents and great grand parents all born in the tiny land. Boy Jammeh is not Gambian born. His father's birth place is seriously questioned. His mother is certainly not Gambian. Don't judge this as being narrowly nationalist. It is a simple observation.

Karamba
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Alhassan

Sweden
813 Posts

Posted - 03 Jan 2008 :  15:26:07  Show Profile Send Alhassan a Private Message
Karamba,
You are quite right. Where was Jammeh himself born? I think even the US has changed its laws so that if you are born there with parents who do not possess green cards are still seen as migrants, and surposed to apply for permits. I hope the guy knows that. The same law applies in Sweden too as I know of is the law has not been changed.
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