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Sankofa
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 Posted - 28 Mar 2006 : 19:12:31
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Yaya is a true son of Gambia. Rich to the core and yes he is the president. he took power by force so if you want to taste the cake take one and be ready for the consequences. He who pays the piper calls the tunes.
I think we need to support our president and rally behind AFPRC. |
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serenata
Germany
1400 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2006 : 19:29:17
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Thank you, Janyanfara. I really care about what is going on in Gambia, and I know there is a lot to learn for me. I believe your words. But I never liked witch-hunting, from no side.
Correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I can see, there are some things that changed to the better in the last 12 years: The position of women, and the school system for example. As Gambia relies a lot on its agriculture, I like Jammehs idea to encourage farming. Even the cleaning day is ok - this was VERY necessary.
What I mean is: I see a good potential in this president, a potential he could work with and rely on. But he seems to waste it, giving himself to megalomania, paranoia, and greed. The typical weaknesses of African dictators, and the reason why nobody outside this continent takes them seriously. Sad thing. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2006 : 20:53:11
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Seranata
I personally do not like friends that sugar coat things. You see one reason why many of our leaders fail is because in power, they change friends. You see friends you had when you were nothing are never afraid to tell you their mind no matter what but fair weather friends will tell lies to gain your favor.
In addition to advisers, a president should not lock herself in the state house grounds. there must be contact with your political constituency to get first hand information. in gambia, few days before the President travels, they will embark on patching the roads for him so that he does not feel the roughness like everyone else.
In my time no sugar coating and no expensive cars. cars are a source of trouble for African governments and cabinet ministers change cars almost every six months and the average cost is 750, 000.00 dalasis. They also are allocated atleast two other cars for utility, etc. That will stop in my era. One car period.
Fishing licenses will be given to companies that add value to the catch and have a factory in the Gambia to provide jobs and increase foreign exchange. Today, Gambians provide fish to the world yet for us to eat sardines they have to be imported. No more such anomalities.
We need tax incentives for value added and we will not be afraid to give tax holidays based on the level of job creation. That way there will be technology transfer. Technology has two sides: the human software and the technical hardware which will be possible through this.
You will be suprised that Ethiopia makes small aeroplanes in Addis Ababa and also ones for agricultural purposes(spraying). There is a way if we are committed. Despite all the years of war, Ethiopia is a major aircraft manitenance center for many airlines around the world and have one of the best pilots.
We will facilitate trade in Africa where resources are cheaper but we will not compromise on quality for price.
Yaya has the opportunity to change his legacy that is being written and i only hope he will swallow his pride and listen. gambia has capable sons and daughters all over the world. He was hailed after the coup but it looks like they are biting the finger that feeds them. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2006 : 22:33:47
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Come-on Kondorong,
Please you know very well a cola nut is more useful than a bitter cola(In our traditionalvalues).Jammeh atleast is far better than Meles Zanawi.No wonder at the commonwealth meatings his onetime promoter,Britain's Tony Blair frawns on him with no formal greetings.
That man is an animal.I wounder what is wrong with African leaders?
I agree with serenata thats why western and some industrialised nations never take African leaders seriously.
If Addis Ababa could make air crafts,what use has that for its people?when it is one of the most hungry,sterved,poor (ruled by a complete *****,so brutal that people have to swear in his name b4 getting a government job)and on top of that the military there are small gods.My friend Albasir(Sudan),Males(Ethiopia),Mugabe(Zimbabwe),Gadafi(Libya)Paul B.(Cameron),Omar Bongo(Gabon)Tanja (Niger),Mubarack(Egypt),King MwatiII(Swaziland),Kagame(Rwanda),Ngesso (Congo Brazaville),Mosaveni(Uganda),Obansango(Nigeria),Conte(Guinea C.),Vierra(G.Bissau.My God its terrible.All these people are hypocretes,despots,tyrants and you name it.All of them have got blood on their hands.Now who is to lead Africa?Back to colonisation? |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2006 : 22:46:18
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You seem to be missing the point. i am not trying to support Zenawi or any of their leaders. What i am trying to bring to light is that we as Africans have capabilities that we can harness if we want to. The example of Ethiopia is a case in in point despite brutal leaders and war, technological advanacement has taken some ground. I was talking about technology transfer which Ethiopia has been successful in the airline business. They went in to a joint venture with an American airline company and today they are benefiting from that.
We need such transfers in the Gambia especially in fishing. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2006 : 22:53:31
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Oh ok,
But then even if the whole American companies comes to the Gambia,what benefit would we gain from that?What about our OIL OIL OIL?I think maybe your friend Sankofa should help answer that for his Soldier President with a difference.(Laughs) |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2006 : 23:19:56
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You see the issue about oil in the Gambia had already been researched by the Chinese and the Canadians. The problem in the Gambia is that of institutional memory. All seasoned public officeres have been fired and there are no handing overs so you walk into an empty office with no clue where to start.
Canadians did a geological survey but we are wasting public funds for work already done. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2006 : 23:29:40
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| What about the one who fires them?He ofcourse must have some clue.Really if the oil issue is true,then we should leave everything and start doing something so that our roads can improve to make communications easier.Really the provential people are suffering. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2006 : 23:42:08
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The issue of oil is a shadowy dream and not economical to pursue. Besides it is said to be off shore some where around the border. We do not need another head on collission with Senegal over a resource that has "no" value at this stage. A copy of the geological survey by the Chinese and canadiand should be at the Archives section or the Semi curent records unit of the national Records Office.
I am very skeptical about th oil. It looks like the Canadians are back with more consultancies to no avail.
As for Junkung who fires them, he has no clue what is going on. That is why he gets frustrated and fires more people. The cycle in contagious. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 28 Mar 2006 : 23:51:04
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| you are crazy kon.TALKING ABOUT JELANKA,YOU SOMETIMES MAKE ME LAUGH TO TEARS |
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serenata
Germany
1400 Posts |
Posted - 29 Mar 2006 : 14:39:00
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Originally posted by kondorong
Seranata
I personally do not like friends that sugar coat things. You see one reason why many of our leaders fail is because in power, they change friends. You see friends you had when you were nothing are never afraid to tell you their mind no matter what but fair weather friends will tell lies to gain your favor.
Very true, but how can someone be so naive not to see through this, like many potentates do?? No flattering: I like your ideas  , and despite all negative examples I agree when you say "we as Africans have capabilities that we can harness if we want to". But what Janyanfara says sounds reasonable too.
OIL OIL OIL. Ooooiiil, and oil again.
I have the impression that oil is really a dubious matter in Gambia. Some months ago, a Senegali told me that Jammeh refused to produce oil because the (American, British etc.) oil companies, as they usually do, wanted to pay almost nothing for it. So, it was said, Jammeh decided to leave the oil where it is in order to save it for times when this resource becomes really scarce, and then sell it for a much better price. Is this true or just a spin doctor's product, a rumour spread out? If it should be true, I would appreciate the idea.
This week, the German magazine 'Der Spiegel' started an interesting series with the title 'The New Cold War'. It is about the mad rush for energy resources, and the consequences on international stability and peace. It's worth reading, but I don't know if it is also in the English issue. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 29 Mar 2006 : 21:01:58
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I have read the survey by the Chinese and Canadians nearly 15 years ago. The results are not conclusive. I think it is a political spin to divert attention and to give hope to the hopeless. Well the studies were undertaken during the coldwar and as such there were foriegn interest in the Gambia then. May be this will be different now. yaya needs to visit those documents to build on from there.
What was suprising then is that Gambia voted against china's admission to the UN even though it was the Chinese who helped us in runing the rice fields in the Gambia to a point that Jawara had said we will export rice. Diplomacy is a complex issue and people change sides so easily. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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njucks
Gambia
1131 Posts |
Posted - 29 Mar 2006 : 22:09:43
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kondorong Senegal returned to recognising China in October 2005 and this is what Ablie Wadda had to say ''countries do not have friends they only have interests''
regarding the Oil Industry i can tell you that oil reserves depend on the price of Oil. A reservoir that is not deemed commercial when the price of Oil was $20 (15yrs ago) per barrel would be very commercial at $66(today) per barrel!!. high prices make everything economical and feasible. i dont think those documents you mentioned are gathering dust |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 29 Mar 2006 : 22:14:01
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| Well that is good Njuks . Atleast yaya ia making research. A very rare trait of him. May be he is listening now. I will take this with a pich of salt. he is known to have an impropmtu approach to events. Deal with them as they come. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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Sankofa
58 Posts |
Posted - 29 Mar 2006 : 23:35:37
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Originally posted by kondorong
Well that is good Njuks . Atleast yaya ia making research. A very rare trait of him. May be he is listening now. I will take this with a pich of salt. he is known to have an impropmtu approach to events. Deal with them as they come.
KONDORONG
YAYA IS MORE EDUCATED THAT THE WHOLE OF THE GAMBIA PUT TOGETHER. HE LECTURES HIS CABINET AND EVRYONE. HE IS A BUHABA BUT WE WILL MISS HIM ONE DAY AND HOPED WE ALLOWED HIM TO CONTINUE. WE ARE PLANNING BIG AND BIG PROJECTS ARE COMING AND WE ARE GOING TO PRINT A 200 DALASI NOTE SOON. IT MEANS THINGS ARE GOOD. WE PRINTED THE 100 DALASI NOTE DURING THE LAST ELECTION. THIS TIME WE PALN BIG AND YOU WILL NOT NEED TO CARRY A LOT OF SMALL MONEY. YOU SEE YOU HAVE TO THINK BIG JUST LIKE YAYA |
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