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MADIBA



United Kingdom
1275 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  12:27:15  Show Profile Send MADIBA a Private Message
LET ME ADD QUICKLY THAT AM NOT HOLDING BRIEF FOR ANY PERSON OR PARTY. I ONLY WISH THE BEST FOR THE GAMBIA OUR HOMELAND. YAYA IS A PROBLEM FINE. BUT THERE ARE OTHER GLARING PROBLEMS WHICH EVEN WHEN YAYA IS GONE WILL FACE US SIMPLY BECAUSE WE NEED A HUGE ATTITUDINAL CHANGE. WE SHOULD GET UP WORK AND STOP DREAMING ABT COMING TO FORTRESS EUROPE ATTIMES LOSING YOUNG AND PRECIOUS LIVES. THE WHOLE OF THE GAMBIAN INFORMAL SECTOR IS CONTROLLED BY NON-GAMBIANS. ARE GAMBIANS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THESE JOBS? TAILORS, BUTCHERS, DRIVERS(SOME),FISHERMEN,EVEN BARBERS? THERE IS NO COUNTRY ABOUND WITH PRECIOUS NATURAL RESOURCES WITH LOTS OF EARNINGS CAN AFFORD TO PAY ALL THESE PEOPLE WITH BENEFITS.

madiss
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akem0



United Kingdom
25 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  12:55:58  Show Profile Send akem0 a Private Message
Sankofa,

I believed and support freedom of speech but for some reason i think you are just looking for some cheap popularity. I was appalled the way your president travel in The gambia while majority of gambians are living on less than D1 per day. Does he drive around Gambia with a blindfold? I personally think that as a non-Gambian i have done alot more for gambia and its people than Dr.yaya Jammeh(rolling eyes). You need to stop been a diehard party supporter and vote for one who is capable of running the country. I've never read The Gambian constitution....do you think a non-gambian could run for president? Look like that's the only job going in Gambia..lol...keep the peace my brothers

''If you must die,'' face the murderous cowardly pack/pressed to the wall, dying, but fighting back!

Edited by - akem0 on 28 Mar 2006 20:01:13
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taalibeh

Gambia
336 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  16:39:32  Show Profile Send taalibeh a Private Message
Madiba, I hope you are not implying that the indigenous Gambian is somewhat lazy or unenterpreneural. Lets face it brother, it is natural that most citizens would avoid certain jobs in their own countries. For example, there in the uk you might be doing certain jobs that you might never contemplate doing back home, just like I do here.

I am not in anyway advocating that we have to abandon the informal sector but merely pointing out the hurdles holding back certain Gambians from participating. If you go to the local market you will find a lot of Gambians with stalls. So your statement only applies to a percentage of the population. What percentage is represented is not certain. I have never seen a formal study on this area so there is uncertainty.

Taalibeh
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Janyanfara



Tanzania
1350 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  17:06:06  Show Profile Send Janyanfara a Private Message
Talibeh,
That idea is what should be eradicated or else we can't forge ahead.I agree with you but imagine some Senegalise and Guinea fulas,they do make it in the Gambia.How comes?Because the do what most Gambian would refuse not doing.Here in DRC,though there are very few Gambians.but some Sarahules are rich here.

Sankofa I agree with akemO, Look at the expensive Cars in Banjul today and your president is telling the world that He bought those cars so that no one would look low apon the Gambia...my God I don even know what he meant.Maybe He is thinking when the African presidents come for the AU meeting in Banjul,they will think the Gambia is well heading towards development.What a brain does He have? Morney on those Cars could be instead used to buy more rice and distributed amongst the people our taken to primary schools foor the childreen to have the normal school feeding program.
BUT YOU ARE SOLDIERS WITH A DIFFERENCE.tHIS IS THE TRUTH.
Mankajang Janyanfara.
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taalibeh

Gambia
336 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  17:25:11  Show Profile Send taalibeh a Private Message
Brother janyanfara, thanks for that. I am sure we are in agreement but perhaps you only faily to understand the logic of what I was trying to portray. Take for example the extended family tradition in the country. When one is working, a lot more depend on their earnings and you are so accessible that every day you see someone coming with problems. It would be difficult to sustain all these problems with little and uncertain earnings like market vending eg.

Where as in the case of the non citizen, a group can share a room for example, sharing the bills and furthermore with less possibilities of family members being able to have access to them as and when they want for problem solving.

of course these hurdles should not stop one from trying. I have seen a lot of gambians working hard at the markets, at Bartess etc but they struggled to make it because similar problems mentioned above.

Taalibeh
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salimina

253 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  17:33:58  Show Profile Send salimina a Private Message
JANYANFARA,
Dont mind yaya, he thinks like prehistoric man(who even thinks better than him). How can a president thought that having nice and expensive cars will offlift the image of a country.No doubt he got hummers and an aeroplane languising on the tarmac at the Airport.

Edited by salimina
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medotech

42 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  19:56:41  Show Profile Send medotech a Private Message
its better to fix the roads the expensive cars will be using or else they will just be wothless in a year or two.Just like the new buses he bought because since the roads are not good,its useless to spend money on them.
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MADIBA



United Kingdom
1275 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  20:36:13  Show Profile Send MADIBA a Private Message
Taalibeh,
Thanks for the mature way you treated the isues i raised. Its true that there are certain jobs that i and many africans do here in Uk which we may not do back home. You are partly right. you are right in that we will not do it. The part you did not see is 1. THE ECONOMIC LEVEL OF OUR POOR THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES AND THE RICH DEVELOPED WORLD WHCIH ARE FAR APART. meaning even an oridnary diploma holder can have gainful employment at home by Gambian standard and live a relatively decent life. Whilst in the West even PHds(africans) are finding it near impossible to have gainful employment. THIS IS MAINLY due to local laws designed to protect the interest of their citizens and their countries. Back home we hardly have segregatory laws for immigrants. In order words the employment is on a level playing ground to a greater extent.

2. Most of the youths back home are not making use of the available outlets to train as tradesmen. They are fed and cloth by an individual working hard whcih to me is unacceptable. Before arriving here i have seen some west and east africans countries but the laisser-faire attitude i saw in some of our youths is found no-where else. Most of these idlers dream of fortress Europe as Utopia where diamonds are picked in the streets. We all had that rude shock that these european work hard to develop their countries. Why can't we do the same?

3. The Gambia is classified as poor country since time 'immemorial'. So our drive towards development must selfless. We must be ready to make sacrifices so that future generations can be proud of us. The developed west ahd pacessetters who did not live to see the fruits of their labour.

4. The people up-country until recntly usually don't buy rice(imported). My family up-country used to bring us lots of rice(bara mano),coos and groundnut at the end of every cropping season. These are hardworking folks.

5. Lets forget about Yaya as an individual Yaya represents a gov't whcih we see as having failed gambian people. Lets remove them through the ballot box. Our politicians should lead the way and we supoort them. No name calling of the president, will safe the country.

6. The next gov't must endeavour to change the attitude and institute development oriented policies and the enabling environment. All hands must on deck. Not lip service. Recently the Gambia was mourning the death of a great son(late Ebou Madi Sillah). I was privildeged to know him for almost two years at close quarters. What i saw in that man was dignity, in work, relationship. Comrade worked hard, love to work, minded his business(does not sneak on people), lived by his sweat and was contented with what he had.

We as Gambians must believe in our selves and work hard to develop our country. This development might not materialise in our life time but atleast we HAVE PUT THE FOUNDATION IN PLACE.

Our problem is bigger than Yaya. The guy is ideas bankcrupt! His knowledge is limited, He is childish and the list goes on and on and on........... so,lets waste time.

The masses MUST BE SUPPORTED. THEIR EFFORTS SUPPLEMENTED BY US IN DIASPORA. SO THAT WEN OUR OPPOSITION CANDIDATE PRESENT THEIR BID TO THEM THEY CAN TRUST THEM AND DO AWAY WIT THE APRC ROT/LOOT. If we DON'T SUPPLEMENT DO YOU THINK THE RURAL FOLKS WILL LEAVE A BIRD IN HAND FOR TWO IN THE BUSH?

madiss
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Janyanfara



Tanzania
1350 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  23:06:46  Show Profile Send Janyanfara a Private Message
God MADIBA,
I totally agree with your post at 12:17:15.Really speaking, you've said it all.Look am facing the likes of such problems.My cousins,brothers and extended relations have all left the provences come to stay with my elder sister and refused to look for work.Every month if I send her morney,she complains that she cannot feed all that huge family and her husband has treatened her with divorce if she cannot contribute towards the feeding of her relatives who have filled their home.I keep telling her not to allow family to come between her and marriage for she has been with her husband for more than thirty years and just because she can't send her own relatives away,even if it would cost her her marriage.She's appealed to my brothers and I for help.Sad isn't it?
Some Men in the Gambia are really lazy.Everybody wants to Go to Babylon and yet they don't want to start working to learn hardship at home and earn some morney so that if help do come,it will find them with some cash to start a go.
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jambo



3300 Posts

Posted - 29 Mar 2006 :  10:03:38  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
good morning, my comments are for madibab, some of the things yo have said are true gambians and africans must look at themselves closely. I posted some comments on the web about greed. I was looking after a family and got the eldest son a sponsorship for college to study computers so that he could get a good job and support his mother. She asked for the money to buy a ram for tobaski, now he is at home doing small jobs. They should look inside before they want to come to fortress europe.

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