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royale

Gambia
25 Posts

Posted - 24 Mar 2006 :  15:20:16  Show Profile Send royale a Private Message
RAmzia Diab was arrested today in Gambia among others. Any thoughts on that!??

kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 24 Mar 2006 :  18:01:34  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
Funny isnt it. Diab was the Lebabese face of the APRC and was nominated memeber of parliament. She mobilised the Lebabnese families to harvest corn on yaya's farm and it was shortly afterwards she became MP.

You may never know the number of arrests. God be with them all and our dear country.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”

Edited by - kondorong on 24 Mar 2006 18:02:15
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taalibeh

Gambia
336 Posts

Posted - 24 Mar 2006 :  19:50:26  Show Profile Send taalibeh a Private Message
This is the apalling thing about some people. Force mobilising people to work on yaya's farm, for what. Why not mobilise to offer services at the RVH, cleaning for example.

We tread our leaders as our lords. This is why they never respect us for what we are. We must start treating them as our servants and nothing else. Come on Diab, what is responsible for the impromptu break down in your relationship with your lord. Did you miss a service? It your fault because you know he does not forgive.

Taalibeh
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 24 Mar 2006 :  20:01:53  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
Ministers and senior public officers buy land in Kanilai these days and they all go to Junkungs farm. It is a fact as they are paraded on TV during the harvest. Easy come easy go. We have to have principles that we should be prepared to die for. Martin Luther said that if there nothing in life you are prepared to die for, then you are not fit to live.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”

Edited by - kondorong on 29 Mar 2006 03:04:42
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Janyanfara



Tanzania
1350 Posts

Posted - 25 Mar 2006 :  01:09:12  Show Profile Send Janyanfara a Private Message
I belief as the Mandinka common saying.."Jammeh BAA futu ta leh"
This is very true.Yaya is really blessed.I will not do that for any body on earth.If I go to your farm, you must come to mine the next time or thats it never even if you are what.
I am not surprised with the arrest of Ramzia she was very instrumental in not agreeing with her APRC MPs when they decided to betray their boss(Majority Leader then)Baba Jobe who lent them all with D100,000 each.But there is still slavery in Afrca expacially Gambia.The notion of boss leads some to think leaders are not humans butAngels,Gins and Super Humans put into one.Ramzia fell off favour with the boss when she openly attended Jobe's trial despite they were told not to.Leaders hate to be disobeyed and one expects to face their anger when you do.
Mankajang Janyanfara
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royale

Gambia
25 Posts

Posted - 27 Mar 2006 :  11:41:07  Show Profile Send royale a Private Message
i think this Ramzia is a woman who believed in the APRC when she got involved in it. shes known for speaking her mind and not butt kissing. I think she was one of the only people in the APRC who didn't walk around with a chip on her shoulder and squandered wealth. I've seen it first hand. Instead she helped a lot of underpriviledged kids with scholarships while she still lived in her dingy old house. Anyways, this ain't about what she did for people. This is about a woman who was relieved of her appointed National Assembly seat for her open support of ousted Majority leader Baba Jobe. Infact a lot of the people arrested in Gambia are arrested because of speaking openly about curruption in the current government. i mean..come on talk about freedom of speech
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royale

Gambia
25 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  10:39:36  Show Profile Send royale a Private Message
Sankofa, thanks for sharing your views but just incase you didn't know (infact you didn't), Ramzia left GIA couple of years before she was working for the APRC and was never on their payroll after she left. She was infact hired to be a flight instructor for the crew on the the president's Millennium Air (unnecessary to have a 747 plane for one person ruling a tiny country if you ask me!)

I think its better not to say things about people when you actually don't know what really happened (not just in RAmzia's case). I don't mean that in a bad way. This woman did nothing for me personally but i know for a fact that prior to being relieved from her post in both the airline and parliment, she knew it was gonna happen as she was having dissagreements about how a lotta things were being dealt with in the Government. So did with Maimuna Taal of Civil Aviation.

Sankofa, i'm sure you believe in the statements you've made and i totally understand that, and might also wonder why i'm being on the defensive, but its coz when one is in a position where he/she hears things said that are so far from the truth, they feel its only right to set the record straight. I'm not saying any of these people are saints but there was absolutely not just reason for some of the arrests.

Keep em coming.
I'm loving this forum. very intelligent people out here. Keep it up.

Kondorong, Jayanfara..great minds

Edited by - royale on 28 Mar 2006 11:18:05
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taalibeh

Gambia
336 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  14:46:21  Show Profile Send taalibeh a Private Message
Its facinating that our government will only come with all reasons and excuses when it only serves their purpose. Yaya is making every noise because he has a special interest in this. Why did'nt he or any member of his government make any statements on the massacre of those Ghanians found mutulated in Brufut? Why is he pre-empting the judician process on this case by parading these poor guys on tv and forcing them to plead to what they have been accused of? Is our judicial system not competent enough to handle this? Why is he always despising the judician system? No body should be above the law including himself.

Why did'nt he respect the court ruling on Pa Sallah Jagne? It really pains me when this guy behaves like he is the owner of this country. He just does whatever he desires and behaves anyhow he wants. This is unacceptable and should be stopped. No body likes coups but his governance style only breeds situations like this. The kind of disgusting treatment metted out to Gambians will only fuel intentions like this. Deep down in me, I honestly do not believe that there was an attempted coup. I believe it is a subtafuge to attain eternal predency, period. This is the characteristic of a military government. Whoever is perceived as a treat is eleminated. This is how Koro Cecesy, Sadibou, the student demonstrators, Dot Faal and co and many more were annihilated. Where is the transparancy, accountability and probity he was singing about during the early days of the coup?

One thing should be clear to yaya, one day or the other he will have to leave the reigns of this nation. He should make sure when that happens, he will leave a legacy that will be remembered as one of the founding blocks of prosperity and development for the country. The country has done everything for him and the question he should ask himself is what he has done for the Gambia. In my opinion, his case is always one step forward and ten back ward. This kind of situation cannot continue. Brother, when when you point the big finger always points back at you. You better watch out for judgement day. INSHA ALLAH it will come.

Taalibeh
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royale

Gambia
25 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  15:52:20  Show Profile Send royale a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by taalibeh

Its facinating that our government will only come with all reasons and excuses when it only serves their purpose. Yaya is making every noise because he has a special interest in this. Why did'nt he or any member of his government make any statements on the massacre of those Ghanians found mutulated in Brufut? Why is he pre-empting the judician process on this case by parading these poor guys on tv and forcing them to plead to what they have been accused of? Is our judicial system not competent enough to handle this? Why is he always despising the judician system? No body should be above the law including himself.

Why did'nt he respect the court ruling on Pa Sallah Jagne? It really pains me when this guy behaves like he is the owner of this country. He just does whatever he desires and behaves anyhow he wants. This is unacceptable and should be stopped. No body likes coups but his governance style only breeds situations like this. The kind of disgusting treatment metted out to Gambians will only fuel intentions like this. Deep down in me, I honestly do not believe that there was an attempted coup. I believe it is a subtafuge to attain eternal predency, period. This is the characteristic of a military government. Whoever is perceived as a treat is eleminated. This is how Koro Cecesy, Sadibou, the student demonstrators, Dot Faal and co and many more were annihilated. Where is the transparancy, accountability and probity he was singing about during the early days of the coup?

One thing should be clear to yaya, one day or the other he will have to leave the reigns of this nation. He should make sure when that happens, he will leave a legacy that will be remembered as one of the founding blocks of prosperity and development for the country. The country has done everything for him and the question he should ask himself is what he has done for the Gambia. In my opinion, his case is always one step forward and ten back ward. This kind of situation cannot continue. Brother, when when you point the big finger always points back at you. You better watch out for judgement day. INSHA ALLAH it will come.




Taalibeh, i completely agree with you in that i also don't believe there was an attempted coup. I think he's just very paranoid. I was in The GAmbia during the Pa Sallah Jagne case and Lye Conteh cases. There was a lot of support for both of them which was all from APRC supporters..so Go figure!
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justice



United Kingdom
44 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  18:43:31  Show Profile Send justice a Private Message
What will happen to Kaninlia and its folks should yahya go.Guys remenber jalanbatula came absolutely from nothing to be what he is 2day i dont think he will build such a place like kaninlia and the status he is enjoying 2day just to let go of it like that,he will do anything that plays on the weakness of gambains to saty in power forever(SIGN OF TIME YUMUL QIMA IS KNOCKING ON OUR DOORS TOO MANY SUCIDES EARTH QUARKES PEOPLE FROM NOTHING BECOMING SOMETHING EG YAHYA)HE might think he is powerfull and all that but one thing he can't stop its TIME very soon the truth about this man will come to light for every one to see (He is an example to gambians moulded in both good and bad)The Allmighty has a special punishment for arogants.Watch this space
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Sankofa

58 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  19:04:32  Show Profile Send Sankofa a Private Message
yaya is innocent and kanilai is for Jilanka. period. We are soldiers with adiffrence. Long live yaya
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  19:21:53  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
Sankofa

I think civility should prevail in our discussions and i hope you will respect the views of others on the bantaba

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”
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BornAfrican

United Kingdom
119 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  23:28:27  Show Profile Send BornAfrican a Private Message
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Originally posted by kondorong

Ministers and senior public officers buy land in Kanilai these days and they all go to Junkungs farm. It is a fact as they are paraded on TV during the harvest. Easy come easy go. We have to have principles that we should be prepared to die for. Martin Luther said that if there nothing in life you are prepared to die for, then you are not fit to live.



easy come easy go!! thats the right phrase here. oneday a messenger (who is illetrate) at my brother's office said to him: "don't you think i should go and do a course on Management at MDI? i might be lucky to be a minister under Yaya".

me

Edited by - kondorong on 29 Mar 2006 03:05:24
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  23:33:18  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
Born African (laugh..... my stomach is aching and my ribs are hurting)

This is a true story. The messenger at one office was promoted above his supervisor the Administrative asssistant because he claimed to be a memeber of the royal family. May be he is right and dont be suprise if he is sent to MDI to study management and made to pass even if he failed. Your ticket is to be a fanatic.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”
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Janyanfara



Tanzania
1350 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  23:53:36  Show Profile Send Janyanfara a Private Message
Well a game of hide and seek.One day,all shall come to light
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  23:56:44  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
I am enjoying the bantaba and it is tapping into memories long gone.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”
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