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mansasulu

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Posted - 06 Nov 2007 : 22:23:05
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| Karamba, dont you agree that if we give people the power to legislate someone will always try to craft things the way it favors them. This is what I think is the problem with democracy. You are right in pointing out the fallibility of human systems.Humans will continue to abuse power if they have a hand in making the laws. |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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Karamba

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Nov 2007 : 22:55:08
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Mansa,
It takes considerable personal discipline to KEEP TRACK. Even at the extreme micro levels, systematic dispensation of duties can be impeded. You will find it consoling that one great source of graceful satisfaction for true practicing Muslims is Regular cleansing and regular prayers. The ability to concentrate in total submission before the Almighty Allah is a special experience not just for everyone who calls it prayers. A deep feeling of gratification is good stabilizer against the temptation of corrupt practice.
While this is not a matter of religious exchange, the point being driven home is that HUMANS HAVE DEFECTS all around. Those who stand to challenge and to defeat the wild temptation are the better of humans. Adolph Hitler thought that every person holds a KILLER INSTINCT. He argued that all other humans indulge in suppressing the wild instinct to kill. For him, he proved the TRUE HUMAN SENTIMENT by his drive to kill as many people as he could. Who is perfect enough, anyway!!
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turk

USA
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Posted - 06 Nov 2007 : 23:10:00
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karamba
Perhaps, the alternative is for gambia to have a fair dictatorship i.e. Castro? |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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mbay
Germany
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kobo

United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2007 : 21:43:41
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Gathered from reliable sources that: Out of Pakistan polpulation is approximately 160 million only 702 members have VOTING RIGHTS TO ELECT THE PRESIDENT; of these legislative bodies:-
i) The National Assembly ii) The Senate iii) Four Provincial Authorities
The Presidential elections is not nationwide but conducted through THE POLITICIANS. The public vote those politicians in those bodies and they (i.e 702 memmbers) are granted voting rights in electing The President. Thats how the Pakistan Presidential elections was recently conducted for Musharaf.
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mansasulu

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Posted - 09 Nov 2007 : 22:02:01
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| The same mechanism is used in the United States. An electoral college instead of the people elects the President... |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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turk

USA
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Posted - 10 Nov 2007 : 02:01:59
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| That is one of the reason america could not be considered as ideal democracy. Also, legislation process is controlled by lobbies and corporations. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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kobo

United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Nov 2007 : 01:43:58
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Latest BBC News Musharaff and Pakistan crises under http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7099372.stm
"Have I done anything constitutionally illegal? Yes, I did it on 3 November," he said, referring to his imposition of emergency rule. "But did I do it before? Not once." |
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kobo

United Kingdom
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Karamba

United Kingdom
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kayjatta

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Posted - 20 Apr 2008 : 11:48:31
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quote: Originally posted by turk
That is one of the reason america could not be considered as ideal democracy. Also, legislation process is controlled by lobbies and corporations.
Here is some information that might enlighten you. Thank you.
http://www.johnwcooper.com/papers/electoralcollege.htm |
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kobo

United Kingdom
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